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Old 14th February 2019, 07:47 AM   #41
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So did the black cat learn to hunt at night?
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Old 14th February 2019, 07:54 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
So did the black cat learn to hunt at night?
When exactly did you think that leopards hunt?
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Old 14th February 2019, 08:15 AM   #43
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Old 14th February 2019, 08:35 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
When exactly did you think that leopards hunt?
On Feb 29th during Leop Years.
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Old 14th February 2019, 09:00 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
On Feb 29th during Leop Years.
Sorry, you lose points for trying too hard.
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Old 14th February 2019, 09:23 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
I believe you meant "Mountain Lions, Cougars and Pumas don't have spots". Jaguars assuredly do.
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he poots forth a quarter-ounce green black rosette
Both Leopards and Jaguars have rosettes, which often are called spots.
Jaguars usually have a spot or dot in the middle.

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Old 14th February 2019, 09:31 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Then what's a jaguar? And is there any difference between a puma, a cougar, and a mountain lion? There are too many interchangeable murder machines roaming the wilds, waiting to literally pounce!
They're all the same thing. There are far fewer species than most people think.

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Old 14th February 2019, 09:34 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Susheel View Post
Isn't that a jaguar? I thought that Panther derived from Pantera...generic name for big cats?
Also a fairly horrible sports car from Ford in the 1970's.
There still seems to be confusion as to the taxonomy. I blame the taxonomists, because things have shifted over time. Lions, IIRC, used to be felis leo.

Anyhow:
Familiy: Felidae. All the cats.
Subfamilies: Felinae, Pantherinae.
Pantherinae has two genera, Panthera and Neofelis, the latter being the clouded leopards. Panthera is lions, tigers, leopards, jaguars, and snow leopards.
Felinae are mostly smaller, although the Mountain Lion and Cheetah are in it. There are 12 extant genera.

Interestingly, the major structural distinction seems to be in the hyoid bone which allows pantherinae to roar, but restricts them to purring only when they exhale.

Commonly, of course, "panther" can refer to any large cat, such as the Florida panther which is a cougar.
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Old 14th February 2019, 09:34 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
They're all the same thing. There are far fewer species than most people think.

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“There are far fewer species than most people think. For example, bears are really just large fat dogs and worms are obviously a puny type of albino snake.”
You know, if it had said, "...bears are really just large fat raccoons...." it might have actually had an air of legitimacy.
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
You know, if it had said, "...bears are really just large fat raccoons...." it might have actually had an air of legitimacy.
Raccoons are just tiny burglar bears
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Old 14th February 2019, 09:57 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Raccoons are just tiny burglar bears
I think your perspective depends on which part of the country you are from....
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Old 14th February 2019, 10:03 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Raccoons are just tiny burglar bears
I thought they were Trash Pandas?
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Old 14th February 2019, 11:19 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Also a fairly horrible sports car from Ford in the 1970's.
There still seems to be confusion as to the taxonomy. I blame the taxonomists, because things have shifted over time. Lions, IIRC, used to be felis leo.

Anyhow:
Familiy: Felidae. All the cats.
Subfamilies: Felinae, Pantherinae.
Pantherinae has two genera, Panthera and Neofelis, the latter being the clouded leopards. Panthera is lions, tigers, leopards, jaguars, and snow leopards.
Felinae are mostly smaller, although the Mountain Lion and Cheetah are in it. There are 12 extant genera.

Interestingly, the major structural distinction seems to be in the hyoid bone which allows pantherinae to roar, but restricts them to purring only when they exhale.

Commonly, of course, "panther" can refer to any large cat, such as the Florida panther which is a cougar.
But where does the Ford Mustang fit in? Or the Mercury Cougar?
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Old 14th February 2019, 11:22 AM   #54
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And I've read that the Australian Drop Bear is actually a marsupial cat. And since the black ones are just as rare as the spotted ones, it's tough to do the taxonomy.
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Old 14th February 2019, 11:24 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
They're all the same thing. There are far fewer species than most people think.

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Old 15th February 2019, 03:06 AM   #56
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
It's almost as if our distant ancestors didn't have as robust a knowledge of taxonomy as 21st century science does.
...perhaps. But didn't the root word for panther (some South American language) originally refer to some kind of mythical animal and not the actual wild cat in question?
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Old 15th February 2019, 07:00 AM   #57
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...perhaps. But didn't the root word for panther (some South American language) originally refer to some kind of mythical animal and not the actual wild cat in question?
No. Unless your thinking of the Island of Atlantis drifting to the western hemisphere. Panther has its roots in Greek and Latin.

You're probably thinking of "jaguar".
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Well, the bestiaries of the ancient and medieval world had lots of mythical creatures mixed in with the real ones, or magical properties ascribed to real animals, or real animals misinterpreted as nonexistent ones because of poor reporting, and later writers would often elaborate on that and create even more fantastical creatures...
(For instance, Pliny's account of a basilisk could describe a spitting cobra, but in medieval times the creature evolved into a weird petrifying chicken dragon thing).

As with so many things, a quick google search makes everything I typed before kind of useless... Turns out the ancient Greeks knew that panthers were large spotted cats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthe...dary_creature)
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