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Old 2nd January 2023, 06:50 PM   #1321
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
That's not nice. I've known people who were fruitcakes, and none of them were even remotely as bad and whacked out as this guy.
The level of fruitcake depends on now many nuts are in it. And this guy is chock full o' nuts.
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Old 2nd January 2023, 11:36 PM   #1322
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
The level of fruitcake depends on now many nuts are in it. And this guy is chock full o' nuts.
Unfortunately, so was his victim.

How on earth does that bastard think that he holds the moral high ground?
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Old 3rd January 2023, 12:54 AM   #1323
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Originally Posted by welshdean View Post
Unfortunately, so was his victim.

How on earth does that bastard think that he holds the moral high ground?
He's a Trumper. Nuff said?
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Old 3rd January 2023, 06:27 AM   #1324
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
He's a Trumper. Nuff said?
True no Morals amoung them.
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Old 5th January 2023, 02:54 PM   #1325
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Just noting that tomorrow is the second anniversary.
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Old 5th January 2023, 04:17 PM   #1326
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Just noting that tomorrow is the second anniversary.
Hopefully, Trump and his minions will be on trial or convicted of insurrection/felonies relating to Jan.6 by its third anniversary.
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Just noting that tomorrow is the second anniversary.
And security at the Capitol is being increased. Not unexpected, I guess.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/polit...ary/index.html
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Biden now speaking at ceremony to award medals to officers hurt defending the Capitol, some posthumously, and election workers.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/polit...ary/index.html
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Old 6th January 2023, 05:23 PM   #1329
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Biden now speaking at ceremony to award medals to officers hurt defending the Capitol, some posthumously, and election workers.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/polit...ary/index.html
Ruby Freeman and her mother, Shaye Moss, received Presidential Citizens Medals from Biden. This was the response from the Mango Mussolini on his Truth Social:

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Wow! Has anyone seen the Ruby Freeman “contradictions” of her sworn testimony? Now this is “BIG STUFF.”Look what was captured by Cobb County police body cameras on January 4, 2021. “And everything they are saying is false. Everything from the quote unquote SUITCASES OF THE BALLOT BOXES, TO THE WHY WE OPENED THEM BACK UP. EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS FALSE.THE FBI…REACHED OUT TO ME ONLY TO CLEAR MY SOCIAL MEDIA (evidence tampering?)…COUNT WAS LOW, IT WAS REALLY LOW.” Now it gets really bad,TRUTH 2

Ruby Freeman, page 2: “BOOM under the table. Cut the zip ties to scan them so the number would go up…so that’s how the number was CREATED, by the ballots going through the scanner…I do want an attorney. IT’S ALL A FRAUD. EVERYTHING THEY ARE SAYING IS FALSE. FROM THE SUITCASES OF THE BALLOT BOXES, TO WHY WE OPENED THEM BACK UP. EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS FALSE.” They got Ruby 7 top D.C. lawyers and protection from the FBI (Again?). WHY? She then “changed” her statements - LIED? TROUBLE FOR RUBY!!!

What will the Great State of Georgia do with the Ruby Freeman MESS? Why not just tell the TRUTH, get rid of the turmoil and guilt, and take our Country back from the evils and treachery of the Radical Left monsters who want to see America die? MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This could be in the Trump has Mental Illness thread, too.
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Ruby Freeman and her mother, Shaye Moss, received Presidential Citizens Medals from Biden. This was the response from the Mango Mussolini on his Truth Social:




This could be in the Trump has Mental Illness thread, too.

Yep he's losing it, whatever that means for someone as far gone as Trump already was. Don't forget the Dangerous part too This is extremely dangerous. Again.

I am outraged that someone can call out these poor women like this and nothing can be done. Not enough obviously, as he's still doing it.

Could this be criminal? These women have had their lives threatened, forced to move and close a business, and OAN was sued. Now Trump is doing it all over again knowing the statements are false, and is no longer protected as President.

If that were my Mom and sister...wow I can't go there. It is so frustrating to just watch this happen. Maybe I should join some organization (legal!). I'm sick of just complaining about it. I can't stand just sitting here.

Random short article covering most of this.
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Someone suggested that Trump's real purpose is to wreck the UNited States for rejecting him. I think there might be something to that.
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Old 6th January 2023, 06:41 PM   #1332
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Someone suggested that Trump's real purpose is to wreck the UNited States for rejecting him. I think there might be something to that.
His niece, Mary, said “Donald will burn everything down if he feels like he is going down.”

He's like a rejected lover: "If I can't have you, no one can!" Then kills her/him.
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Old 6th January 2023, 06:49 PM   #1333
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His niece, Mary, said “Donald will burn everything down if he feels like he is going down.”

He's like a rejected lover: "If I can't have you, no one can!" Then kills her/him.
James Cagney in the climax of "White Heat" comes to mind:

"Top of the world, ma"
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Old 6th January 2023, 06:50 PM   #1334
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Yep he's losing it, whatever that means for someone as far gone as Trump already was. Don't forget the Dangerous part too This is extremely dangerous. Again.

I am outraged that someone can call out these poor women like this and nothing can be done. Not enough obviously, as he's still doing it.

Could this be criminal? These women have had their lives threatened, forced to move and close a business, and OAN was sued. Now Trump is doing it all over again knowing the statements are false, and is no longer protected as President.

If that were my Mom and sister...wow I can't go there. It is so frustrating to just watch this happen. Maybe I should join some organization (legal!). I'm sick of just complaining about it. I can't stand just sitting here.

Random short article covering most of this.
Defamation is generally a civil tort, not a criminal action. The two women previously settled a lawsuit against OAN for these kinds of accusations. This is malicious defamation. Trump is no longer protected by being POTUS nor were these accusations made during his presidency.

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While Mr Trump repeatedly attacked Ms Freeman and her daughter Shaye Mose – two Black women – in the past, this time his posts could have more serious ramifications, according to Lisa Rubin, a legal analyst with MSNBC.

Ms Rubin wrote on Twitter that Mr Trump can be sued by Ms Freeman for defamation since he no longer has presidential immunity. Ms Freeman has already filed lawsuits against several conservatives.

“When Trump last went after Freeman, he was still president. And therefore, had she sued him for defamation, he could have raised the same defense — as POTUS, I’m immune to tort suits! — he did to Carroll’s initial claims. Whether that defense flies is still being litigated,” Ms Rubin wrote in a twitter thread.

“But Trump’s not president now. And Freeman has already sued others for defamation,” she added.

“Her suit against Rudy Giuliani is ongoing; she settled with OANN last April.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-fresh-a...085456755.html
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Someone suggested that Trump's real purpose is to wreck the UNited States for rejecting him. I think there might be something to that.
I'm convinced that is exactly what his benefactor has in mind.
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.... This was the response from the Mango Mussolini on his Truth Social:

This could be in the Trump has Mental Illness thread, too.
Or more likely he cut and pasted some QAnon stuff.
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Or more likely he cut and pasted some QAnon stuff.
Bien sur, "C'est la meme chose, n'est pas?"
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Roy Wood Jr (one of my favorite Trevor Noah/Daily Show comedians) asks Karen Hunter, How should we celebrate Jan 6th?

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Someone suggested that Trump's real purpose is to wreck the UNited States for rejecting him. I think there might be something to that.
Well considering that the only book he's ever allegedly read is Mein Kampf, that's not a surprise.
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Well considering that the only book he's ever allegedly read is Mein Kampf, that's not a surprise.
I find that allegation exceptionally hard to accept.

Some people have alleged that he had a copy of the book in his condo, but owning a book is not the same as reading a book. Also, some of his aides claimed that on his last trip to Europe, they had to explain to him which countries in WW II were US allies and which were US enemies. President chucklehead really has neither that patience, the desire, nor the skill set to read and understand Mein Kampf.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I find that allegation exceptionally hard to accept.

Some people have alleged that he had a copy of the book in his condo, but owning a book is not the same as reading a book. Also, some of his aides claimed that on his last trip to Europe, they had to explain to him which countries in WW II were US allies and which were US enemies. President chucklehead really has neither that patience, the desire, nor the skill set to read and understand Mein Kampf.
I agree. Trump doesn't bother with anything that isn't directly related to him.

I think he does have at least one learning disability, likely related to reading, and had poor grades in school. It explains his letter to all the schools he attended warning them not to release his school records. I suspect his elder sister's claim that Donnie paid someone to take the SAT for him is true.
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Don;t know if it fits, but the Proud Boys seem to have turned a little on Trump:they are using the Nuremberg Defense in their trials "I was Only Following Trump's Orders".
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Don;t know if it fits, but the Proud Boys seem to have turned a little on Trump:they are using the Nuremberg Defense in their trials "I was Only Following Trump's Orders".
"I was only following orders" is not a legal defense. It didn't work for the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials and it won't work now.
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I find that allegation exceptionally hard to accept.

Some people have alleged that he had a copy of the book in his condo, but owning a book is not the same as reading a book. Also, some of his aides claimed that on his last trip to Europe, they had to explain to him which countries in WW II were US allies and which were US enemies. President chucklehead really has neither that patience, the desire, nor the skill set to read and understand Mein Kampf.
Unfortunately I saw Trump actually Reading once, but you wouldn't believe what it was.
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"I was only following orders" is not a legal defense. It didn't work for the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials and it won't work now.
Insanity would be the only real defense that might work, because Trump Followers are definitely Insane.
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Insanity would be the only real defense that might work, because Trump Followers are definitely Insane.
Most are just stupid.
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Unfortunately I saw Trump actually Reading once, but you wouldn't believe what it was.
The Stormy Daniels Story in Pictures?
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The Stormy Daniels Story in Pictures?
An article in his Buddy David Peckers magazine, on the JFK Magruter film.
He was arguing with another man about it, I think he was one of his body Guards. Trump was of course totally Wrong on the physics of Projectiles.
Trump couldn't even understand the complexity of IBM Paper punch cards, in 1961 either, holes in paper were obvious too complexity an Idea for him to understand.
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"I was only following orders" is not a legal defense. It didn't work for the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials and it won't work now.
Sure as hell did'nt save Goering, Kaltenbrunner, Streicher and company from hanging. Won't work here either.
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"I was only following orders" is not a legal defense. It didn't work for the Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials and it won't work now.
Could be good for implicating The Donald though.
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Well, the Proud Boys were found guilty.
Guess the Nuremberg Defense did not work well for them either.
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Could be good for implicating The Donald though.
Nah, if I were a prosecuter, I would not like my case to depend on the testimoney of these bozos.
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Well, the Proud Boys were found guilty.
Guess the Nuremberg Defense did not work well for them either.
Four of the Oath Keepers. Proud Boys' trial not that far along yet.
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I yell you, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, these days you can't keep your seditious criminals straight without a scorecard.
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The more the defendants point to the words as being orders they had to follow, the harder it will be for anyone to claim that the words weren't intended to be orders.
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^^ Assuming that charges are ever brought against Trump in the first place. Two years and counting. There's enough evidence to convict at least 10 Trumps!

It's not like the trial will commence immediately after he's indicted for f's sake. They'll have years to dick around and waste time like this. Fight appeals.

What is the hold up here? My opinion, the guy must be charged even if he somehow wins. You just can't let this go unchallenged. Charge him with something gawdammit there is plenty to choose from! Ya know, maybe before the next election?

Oh and the idiot was also caught red-handed hiding and lying about Top Secret documents! That is called stealing! Months ago!

Idiots in charge: "Wow, whatever should we do?"

A real headscratcher I tell ya!

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I yell you, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, these days you can't keep your seditious criminals straight without a scorecard.
You have too remember the Oath Keepers formed from Ron Paul's Waco Whackos from Infowars, the Proud Boys formed from followers of the Racist Great Replacement conspiracy theories, on parlor, and other far right conspiracy theorists.
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