Federal investigators search Giuliani apartment: reports

Captain_Swoop · 28th April 2021, 10:35 AM

Federal prosecutors executed a search warrant at the apartment of Rudy Giuliani, advancing its investigation into former President Trump’s personal lawyer and his dealings with Ukraine, The New York Times and other outlets reported Wednesday.

According to the Times, investigators seized Giuliani’s electronic devices, a significant development into the long-running investigation into whether the former New York mayor illegally lobbied the Trump administration on behalf of Ukrainian oligarchs.

Those same officials were aiding Giuliani in his search for dirt on Trump’s political rivals, including then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

The U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan and the FBI declined to comment on the matter.

A spokesperson for Giuliani did not immediately respond.

Under Trump, Justice Department officials repeatedly sought to block the office from seeking a warrant for Giuliani’s phones.

The new warrant suggests federal prosecutors believe they have a compelling case. Prosecutors are only able to secure a warrant only if they can convince a judge that a search is likely to produce evidence of a crime.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...artment-report

Captain_Swoop · 28th April 2021, 10:39 AM

I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

dudalb · 28th April 2021, 12:11 PM

Giuliani sold his soul to the devil in supporting Trump, and the devil has come around to collect....

Crossbow · 28th April 2021, 12:31 PM

Well if that whacky, lackey Rudy is being searched by the Feds. then is it is time for:

"TRIAL BY COMBAT!"

Which, by a happy coincidence, is occurring at the same time that the latest version of the 'Mortal Combat' movie is being released.

newyorkguy · 28th April 2021, 12:34 PM

Pendulum swinging the other way now with a new sheriff in town.

Slate reported just minutes ago.

Quote:

On Wednesday afternoon [this afternoon], Giuliani tweeted that he would be appearing on his regularly scheduled radio program “for a live statement” at 3 p.m. on WABC radio. The radio network apparently pre-empted that program and aired another host and Giuliani subsequently deleted the tweet. Link to Slate article

dudalb · 28th April 2021, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

Well if that whacky, lackey Rudy is being searched by the Feds. then is it is time for:

"TRIAL BY COMBAT!"

Which, by a happy coincidence, is occurring at the same time that the latest version of the 'Mortal Combat' movie is being released.

Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid".

Bob001 · 28th April 2021, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid".

Another Charlton Heston epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uE2-AyaeU

TragicMonkey · 28th April 2021, 01:18 PM

I can't help but think Giuliani's apartment must smell horrible, all musty and mildewy.

bruto · 28th April 2021, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

Don't trust them. Its a plant!

alfaniner · 28th April 2021, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

Maybe just a hoe.

Firestone · 28th April 2021, 01:55 PM

Look what's back: one of Hunter Biden's many laptops.

Quote:

Rudy's son Andrew Giuliani brings Hunter Biden into the FBI raid:

"The only piece of evidence that they did not take up there today was the only piece of incriminating evidence that is in there — and it does not belong to my father, it belongs to the current president's son.

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...659021313?s=19

Video embedded in tweet.

Skeptic Ginger · 28th April 2021, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Look what's back: one of Hunter Biden's many laptops.

Video embedded in tweet.

Did he say what that piece of evidence was? Surely they didn't leave a laptop. Did they sort the papers on the spot and toss Hunter stuff?

Why not take that evidence and destroy it?

The son is as mental as his father.

Darat · 28th April 2021, 02:16 PM

So did they find the painting of a ravishing handsome youthful Giuliani?

Darat · 28th April 2021, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Did he say what that piece of evidence was? Surely they didn't leave a laptop. Did they sort the papers on the spot and toss Hunter stuff?

Why not take that evidence and destroy it?

The son is as mental as his father.

Doubt it, but probably as dishonest.

wasapi · 28th April 2021, 02:26 PM

Perhaps it makes me a bad person, but oh-well. I am really enjoying this, and eagerly await the 'findings'! And, I agree with TM, I'll bet the place reeks; stress sweat, halitosis, garbage, urine - he seems to have issues with getting his pants on. Or off.

Minoosh · 28th April 2021, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

Is that what they meant by underage "ho's"?

RecoveringYuppy · 28th April 2021, 02:28 PM

The Fox News clip that I saw on this was relatively straight forward but the comments under it were all over the place. Some say they were specifically there to destroy the Hunter Biden laptop, so those people need to talk to Rudy's son.

Minoosh · 28th April 2021, 02:31 PM

Deleted; I misread something.

Norman Alexander · 28th April 2021, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

The Fox News clip that I saw on this was relatively straight forward but the comments under it were all over the place. Some say they were specifically there to destroy the Hunter Biden laptop, so those people need to talk to Rudy's son.

Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time?

RecoveringYuppy · 28th April 2021, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time?

Don't remember how crazy Rudy's claims actually were.

dirtywick · 28th April 2021, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by wasapi

Perhaps it makes me a bad person, but oh-well. I am really enjoying this, and eagerly await the 'findings'! And, I agree with TM, I'll bet the place reeks; stress sweat, halitosis, garbage, urine - he seems to have issues with getting his pants on. Or off.

I think there’s a cathartic reaction in seeing people who openly abused public office to shield themselves from consequences of breaking the law for personal gain. Especially since it appeared, for a long time, they they would get away with it.

Norman Alexander · 28th April 2021, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

Don't remember how crazy Rudy's claims actually were.

If you're Rudy, it's hard to remember stuff and keep your lies on track.

Dr. Keith · 28th April 2021, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time?

If you search for HP laptop on eBay you will find thousands!

mumblethrax · 28th April 2021, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Giuliani sold his soul to the devil in supporting Trump, and the devil has come around to collect....

The devil would be more likely to sell his soul to Giuliani. He's a malevolent authoritarian, and always was.

What he did do was sell his soul to a ******* moron, because he's a ******* moron. At least Giuliani had some competent people to protect him; Donald Trump had to rely on Rudy Giuliani.

dudalb · 28th April 2021, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Another Charlton Heston epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uE2-AyaeU

And I think perhaps his best epic.

ANd, in more good news from NYC, a guy who, on Jan 7th urged people to kill Democratic conggessmen in a Internet Rant got convicted of making death threats to public officials today. He could get up to ten years, more likely get a couple of years. But I am ok with that as long as an example is made.

mumblethrax · 28th April 2021, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And please, can we leave politics out of it?

You want to leave politics out of...politics?

acbytesla · 28th April 2021, 03:50 PM

If Rudy has incriminating evidence on his phone still, he's a bigger idiot than I thought. US Attorneys wanted to nail him a year ago but Barr prevented it.

The case has existed for a while. If he didn't purge everything including smashing his phone to bits he really is stupid.

dudalb · 28th April 2021, 03:50 PM

It's sad, in a way. I think the praise he got from 9/11 went to his head ,he became power hungry, and ended up as corrupt as one of the Mafia bosses he put into prison.

Venom · 28th April 2021, 04:02 PM

Witch hunt by the Biden administration!

Mumbles · 28th April 2021, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

It's sad, in a way. I think the praise he got from 9/11 went to his head ,he became power hungry, and ended up as corrupt as one of the Mafia bosses he put into prison.

Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg.

If he ends up in prison I wouldn't be even slightly surprised, despite the fact that the system is weighted to let people like him go.

(also, man, this is the second time I've directly attacked your position in as many weeks. I think you're wrong on these two, but I still think you're cool, sorry...)

mumblethrax · 28th April 2021, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg.

Yes. Also in 1994 he gave his "freedom is submission to authority" speech. He's as close to a fascist as I've ever seen in American politics.

The idea that he underwent some serious change in character at some point in the last 20 years is only held by people who never paid attention to who he was as mayor.

acbytesla · 28th April 2021, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg.

If he ends up in prison I wouldn't be even slightly surprised, despite the fact that the system is weighted to let people like him go.

(also, man, this is the second time I've directly attacked your position in as many weeks. I think you're wrong on these two, but I still think you're cool, sorry...)

I think dudalb's point is fairly or unfairly Rudy used to have a generally positive public opinion. He trashed that in a big way.

Bob001 · 28th April 2021, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

.....
And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg.
.....

Bloomberg is certainly open to plenty of criticism, but he's nothing like Giuliani. And New Yorkers elected him to a third term; it's not like he stole it.

Stacyhs · 28th April 2021, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid".

I used to show that to my 9th grade Spanish class every year.

Craig4 · 28th April 2021, 07:01 PM

I'm kind of thinking that this isn't the sort of thing you do if you don't know what you're going to find. I have a hard time seeing an FBI office or USA undertaking this lightly.

Regnad Kcin · 28th April 2021, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time?

I have one myself, safely stashed in my Ark of the Covenant.

acbytesla · 28th April 2021, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

I have one myself, safely stashed in my Ark of the Covenant.

Your Ark? Did you swipe it from a government warehouse?

bruto · 28th April 2021, 08:10 PM

How Odd. I have one of Hunter's laptop too. I keep it in the closet with my collection of historic skulls. See, here's the skull of Napoleon. And right next to it is the skull of Napoleon as a child.

jnelso99 · 28th April 2021, 08:16 PM

My Hunter Biden laptop is under one of the legs of our kitchen table to stop it wobbling.

TheGoldcountry · 28th April 2021, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

Pendulum swinging the other way now with a new sheriff in town.

Slate reported just minutes ago.

On Wednesday afternoon [this afternoon], Giuliani tweeted that he would be appearing on his regularly scheduled radio program “for a live statement” at 3 p.m. on WABC radio. The radio network apparently pre-empted that program and aired another host and Giuliani subsequently deleted the tweet.

Apparently a real lawyer got to him and told him that public statements about investigations are a bad idea when you're on the other side of the table.

28th April 2021, 10:35 AM	#1
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Federal investigators search Giuliani apartment: reports Federal prosecutors executed a search warrant at the apartment of Rudy Giuliani, advancing its investigation into former President Trump’s personal lawyer and his dealings with Ukraine, The New York Times and other outlets reported Wednesday. According to the Times, investigators seized Giuliani’s electronic devices, a significant development into the long-running investigation into whether the former New York mayor illegally lobbied the Trump administration on behalf of Ukrainian oligarchs. Those same officials were aiding Giuliani in his search for dirt on Trump’s political rivals, including then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. The U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan and the FBI declined to comment on the matter. A spokesperson for Giuliani did not immediately respond. Under Trump, Justice Department officials repeatedly sought to block the office from seeking a warrant for Giuliani’s phones. The new warrant suggests federal prosecutors believe they have a compelling case. Prosecutors are only able to secure a warrant only if they can convince a judge that a search is likely to produce evidence of a crime. https://thehill.com/policy/national-...artment-report

28th April 2021, 12:11 PM	#3
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28th April 2021, 12:31 PM	#4
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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,211	Originally Posted by Crossbow Well if that whacky, lackey Rudy is being searched by the Feds. then is it is time for: "TRIAL BY COMBAT!" Which, by a happy coincidence, is occurring at the same time that the latest version of the 'Mortal Combat' movie is being released. Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid".
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28th April 2021, 01:18 PM	#8
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28th April 2021, 10:39 AM	#2
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

28th April 2021, 01:11 PM	#7
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,304	Originally Posted by dudalb Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid". Another Charlton Heston epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uE2-AyaeU

28th April 2021, 01:46 PM	#9
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 33,760	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping. Don't trust them. Its a plant!
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alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 27,408	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping. Maybe just a hoe.
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28th April 2021, 01:55 PM	#11
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28th April 2021, 02:13 PM	#12
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by Firestone Look what's back: one of Hunter Biden's many laptops. Video embedded in tweet. Did he say what that piece of evidence was? Surely they didn't leave a laptop. Did they sort the papers on the spot and toss Hunter stuff? Why not take that evidence and destroy it? The son is as mental as his father.

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28th April 2021, 02:16 PM	#14
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 106,875	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Did he say what that piece of evidence was? Surely they didn't leave a laptop. Did they sort the papers on the spot and toss Hunter stuff? Why not take that evidence and destroy it? The son is as mental as his father. Doubt it, but probably as dishonest.
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28th April 2021, 02:26 PM	#15
wasapi Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 14,241	Perhaps it makes me a bad person, but oh-well. I am really enjoying this, and eagerly await the 'findings'! And, I agree with TM, I'll bet the place reeks; stress sweat, halitosis, garbage, urine - he seems to have issues with getting his pants on. Or off.
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28th April 2021, 02:28 PM	#16
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,494	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop I hear they were looking for some gardening tools stolen from Four Seasons Total Landscaping. Is that what they meant by underage "ho's"?

28th April 2021, 02:28 PM	#17
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	The Fox News clip that I saw on this was relatively straight forward but the comments under it were all over the place. Some say they were specifically there to destroy the Hunter Biden laptop, so those people need to talk to Rudy's son.

28th April 2021, 02:31 PM	#18
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,494	Deleted; I misread something.
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Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,622	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy The Fox News clip that I saw on this was relatively straight forward but the comments under it were all over the place. Some say they were specifically there to destroy the Hunter Biden laptop, so those people need to talk to Rudy's son. Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time?
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28th April 2021, 02:49 PM	#20
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time? Don't remember how crazy Rudy's claims actually were.

28th April 2021, 02:50 PM	#21
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,237	Originally Posted by wasapi Perhaps it makes me a bad person, but oh-well. I am really enjoying this, and eagerly await the 'findings'! And, I agree with TM, I'll bet the place reeks; stress sweat, halitosis, garbage, urine - he seems to have issues with getting his pants on. Or off. I think there’s a cathartic reaction in seeing people who openly abused public office to shield themselves from consequences of breaking the law for personal gain. Especially since it appeared, for a long time, they they would get away with it.
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28th April 2021, 02:51 PM	#22
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,622	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy Don't remember how crazy Rudy's claims actually were. If you're Rudy, it's hard to remember stuff and keep your lies on track.
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28th April 2021, 02:53 PM	#23
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,429	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time? If you search for HP laptop on eBay you will find thousands!
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28th April 2021, 02:54 PM	#24
mumblethrax Species traitor Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,378	Originally Posted by dudalb Giuliani sold his soul to the devil in supporting Trump, and the devil has come around to collect.... The devil would be more likely to sell his soul to Giuliani. He's a malevolent authoritarian, and always was. What he did do was sell his soul to a ***** moron, because he's a ***** moron. At least Giuliani had some competent people to protect him; Donald Trump had to rely on Rudy Giuliani.
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28th April 2021, 03:45 PM	#25
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,211	Originally Posted by Bob001 Another Charlton Heston epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uE2-AyaeU And I think perhaps his best epic. ANd, in more good news from NYC, a guy who, on Jan 7th urged people to kill Democratic conggessmen in a Internet Rant got convicted of making death threats to public officials today. He could get up to ten years, more likely get a couple of years. But I am ok with that as long as an example is made.
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28th April 2021, 03:48 PM	#26
mumblethrax Species traitor Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,378	Originally Posted by dudalb And please, can we leave politics out of it? You want to leave politics out of...politics?

28th April 2021, 03:50 PM	#27
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,383	If Rudy has incriminating evidence on his phone still, he's a bigger idiot than I thought. US Attorneys wanted to nail him a year ago but Barr prevented it. The case has existed for a while. If he didn't purge everything including smashing his phone to bits he really is stupid.
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28th April 2021, 04:02 PM	#29
Venom Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 6,080	Witch hunt by the Biden administration!

28th April 2021, 04:03 PM	#30
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,726	Originally Posted by dudalb It's sad, in a way. I think the praise he got from 9/11 went to his head ,he became power hungry, and ended up as corrupt as one of the Mafia bosses he put into prison. Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg. If he ends up in prison I wouldn't be even slightly surprised, despite the fact that the system is weighted to let people like him go. (also, man, this is the second time I've directly attacked your position in as many weeks. I think you're wrong on these two, but I still think you're cool, sorry...)
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28th April 2021, 04:15 PM	#31
mumblethrax Species traitor Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,378	Originally Posted by Mumbles Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg. Yes. Also in 1994 he gave his "freedom is submission to authority" speech. He's as close to a fascist as I've ever seen in American politics. The idea that he underwent some serious change in character at some point in the last 20 years is only held by people who never paid attention to who he was as mayor.

28th April 2021, 04:18 PM	#32
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,383	Originally Posted by Mumbles Noooope he was always a piece of scum. Same dude that launched his 1994 Mayoral bid in the middle of a literal racist police riot. He was just lucky that 9/11 gave him an easy way to posture as "America's Mayor" despite placing the emergency response coordination team right in Building 7 which collapsed because it was an easy place for him to meet his mistress, think for a second about exactly how scummy that means he is. Con sider that when he said he should have a third term right afterwards, NYC still said "Hell no, go away". And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg. If he ends up in prison I wouldn't be even slightly surprised, despite the fact that the system is weighted to let people like him go. (also, man, this is the second time I've directly attacked your position in as many weeks. I think you're wrong on these two, but I still think you're cool, sorry...) I think dudalb's point is fairly or unfairly Rudy used to have a generally positive public opinion. He trashed that in a big way.
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28th April 2021, 06:47 PM	#33
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,304	Originally Posted by Mumbles ..... And then gave a third term to a similarly disgusting Michael Bloomberg. ..... Bloomberg is certainly open to plenty of criticism, but he's nothing like Giuliani. And New Yorkers elected him to a third term; it's not like he stole it.

28th April 2021, 06:56 PM	#34
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by dudalb Still think the best Trial By Combat scene is the Duel for the city of Calahorra in the classic epic "El Cid". I used to show that to my 9th grade Spanish class every year.

28th April 2021, 07:01 PM	#35
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 26,497	I'm kind of thinking that this isn't the sort of thing you do if you don't know what you're going to find. I have a hard time seeing an FBI office or USA undertaking this lightly.

28th April 2021, 07:18 PM	#36
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 10,754	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Weren't there literally hundreds of highly incriminating Hunter Biden laptops at one time? I have one myself, safely stashed in my Ark of the Covenant.
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28th April 2021, 07:47 PM	#37
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,383	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin I have one myself, safely stashed in my Ark of the Covenant. Your Ark? Did you swipe it from a government warehouse?
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