Right Wing Terrorism - Page 12

Suddenly · 17th January 2023, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Parsman

To be fair, the first Rambo movie was about a man traumatized in a war who was mistreated and attacked by American rednecks and fought back. Now Rambo 2, you have a point

The first was exploring the stabbed in the back myth. Veterans were mistreated somewhat because of lack of resources, etc., but tales of straight hostility towards vets were wildly overstated and the idea that the war was winnable if only the government would have not held back the army is completely asinine.

The second was wish fulfillment w/r/t the stabbed in the back myth. Do we get to win this time. Yes there are forgotten POWs and the higherups are covering these things up, etc.

Suddenly · 17th January 2023, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Heck, back when I was in college I took a Japanese history class as an elective. It was History of Japan 1, so it stopped long before the modern day. When I mentioned it to my mother, her reaction was "Why do you want to study them? They attacked us." Not only was this conversation in the 1990s, she wasn't even born until 1944.

Some historian pointed out that wars don't end until the all the children of the people alive during the war die.

It's pretty apt.

Vietnam is one of those things that doesn't get enough play when looking at the rise of Trumpism.

lobosrul5 · 17th January 2023, 09:27 AM

More right-wing terrorism, local to me, suspects caught!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/so...ngs/index.html

ETA: ahh I see it had been discussed earlier.

smartcooky · 18th January 2023, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by WWBDD

Seems likely to whom?

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Further to your short life-spanned post, definitions of terrorism are;

dictionary.com: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Collins: Use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as a political weapon or policy

Brittanica: The calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.

FBI:The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Given the above definitions, I can't see any possible argument that a political candidate who lost at the polls, who then both hires people to shoot at the homes of political adversaries, and then does so himself, while claiming that the election was rigged and that he was the true winner, can be any anything BUT terrorism... and the fact that he was a Republican candidate makes it right wing terrorism by definition.

So... WWBDD, would you care to come back and revise your bull-**** post?
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azazal · 18th January 2023, 09:02 PM

Nothing to see here, just another normal day.

Police investigate Illinois Planned Parenthood fire as arson

CHICAGO (AP) — A fire at a central Illinois Planned Parenthood clinic is being investigated as arson, Peoria police said Tuesday, just days after the state enacted sweeping abortion protections.

Officers responded to a report of an “unknown person throwing a Molotov cocktail” into the Peoria clinic building at about 11:30 p.m. Sunday, police spokesperson Semone Roth said.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...5396a140904545

smartcooky · 18th January 2023, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by azazal

Nothing to see here, just another normal day.

Police investigate Illinois Planned Parenthood fire as arson

CHICAGO (AP) — A fire at a central Illinois Planned Parenthood clinic is being investigated as arson, Peoria police said Tuesday, just days after the state enacted sweeping abortion protections.

Officers responded to a report of an “unknown person throwing a Molotov cocktail” into the Peoria clinic building at about 11:30 p.m. Sunday, police spokesperson Semone Roth said.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...5396a140904545

Where was the "good guy with a Molotov cocktail" ?

gnome · 18th January 2023, 11:54 PM

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smartcooky · 19th January 2023, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

Here! (image from The Good Place)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/56911b76...667dd3219.gifv

17th January 2023, 09:27 AM	#443
lobosrul5 Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4,161	More right-wing terrorism, local to me, suspects caught! https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/so...ngs/index.html ETA: ahh I see it had been discussed earlier.
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18th January 2023, 02:17 PM	#444
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 22,889	Originally Posted by WWBDD Seems likely to whom? <BS snipped> Further to your short life-spanned post, definitions of terrorism are; dictionary.com: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Collins: Use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as a political weapon or policy Brittanica: The calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective. FBI:The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. Given the above definitions, I can't see any possible argument that a political candidate who lost at the polls, who then both hires people to shoot at the homes of political adversaries, and then does so himself, while claiming that the election was rigged and that he was the true winner, can be any anything BUT terrorism... and the fact that he was a Republican candidate makes it right wing terrorism by definition. So... WWBDD, would you care to come back and revise your bull-**** post? . .
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18th January 2023, 09:02 PM	#445
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18th January 2023, 09:27 PM	#446
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 22,889	Originally Posted by azazal Nothing to see here, just another normal day. Police investigate Illinois Planned Parenthood fire as arson CHICAGO (AP) — A fire at a central Illinois Planned Parenthood clinic is being investigated as arson, Peoria police said Tuesday, just days after the state enacted sweeping abortion protections. Officers responded to a report of an “unknown person throwing a Molotov cocktail” into the Peoria clinic building at about 11:30 p.m. Sunday, police spokesperson Semone Roth said. https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...5396a140904545 Where was the "good guy with a Molotov cocktail" ?
	__________________ What is Woke? It is a term that means "awakened to the needs of others". It means to be well-informed, thoughtful, compassionate, humble and kind. Woke people are keen to make the world a better, fairer place for everyone, But, unfortunately, it has also become a pejorative used by racists, homophobes and misogynists on the political right, to describe people who possess a fully functional moral compass.

18th January 2023, 11:54 PM	#447
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17th January 2023, 08:14 AM	#441
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,353	Originally Posted by Parsman To be fair, the first Rambo movie was about a man traumatized in a war who was mistreated and attacked by American rednecks and fought back. Now Rambo 2, you have a point The first was exploring the stabbed in the back myth. Veterans were mistreated somewhat because of lack of resources, etc., but tales of straight hostility towards vets were wildly overstated and the idea that the war was winnable if only the government would have not held back the army is completely asinine. The second was wish fulfillment w/r/t the stabbed in the back myth. Do we get to win this time. Yes there are forgotten POWs and the higherups are covering these things up, etc.

17th January 2023, 08:27 AM	#442
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,353	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Heck, back when I was in college I took a Japanese history class as an elective. It was History of Japan 1, so it stopped long before the modern day. When I mentioned it to my mother, her reaction was "Why do you want to study them? They attacked us." Not only was this conversation in the 1990s, she wasn't even born until 1944. Some historian pointed out that wars don't end until the all the children of the people alive during the war die. It's pretty apt. Vietnam is one of those things that doesn't get enough play when looking at the rise of Trumpism.

19th January 2023, 12:52 AM	#448
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 22,889	Originally Posted by gnome Here! (image from The Good Place) https://64.media.tumblr.com/56911b76...667dd3219.gifv
	__________________ What is Woke? It is a term that means "awakened to the needs of others". It means to be well-informed, thoughtful, compassionate, humble and kind. Woke people are keen to make the world a better, fairer place for everyone, But, unfortunately, it has also become a pejorative used by racists, homophobes and misogynists on the political right, to describe people who possess a fully functional moral compass.