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Old 28th September 2022, 05:55 PM   #1
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The Kyrsten Sinema Thread

What is the difference between these two images?




Answer:
There is no difference. They are the same.

https://twitter.com/alohacatss/statu...09449255047168
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Old 28th September 2022, 06:18 PM   #2
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What?

She made a silly speech about filibuster a few days ago.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...d-be-restored/
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What?

She made a silly speech about filibuster a few days ago.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...d-be-restored/
Just in time for McConnell when the GOP get the Senate back.
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Dumpster with a blue dress on.
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Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right?


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The dumpster would make a better Senator.
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The dumpster would cost slightly more to buy off?
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The dumpster would cost slightly more to buy off?
I dunno. No matter how much you pay them, dumpster gonna dump.
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The thing that gets me about Sinema is not the fact that she seems to be regularly inflicting catastrophic damage to her political career. It's that she seems genuinely unable to realize it. It's like she looked at Joe Lieberman's last term in office and thought, "This is the pathway to the Presidency!"
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Originally Posted by Donal View Post
Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right?


Right?
It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.
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If only Martha McSally had won, eh?
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It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.
I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.


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I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.


*no, I still won't
The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.
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The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.
Tuberville, Walker, Boebert, MTG, and a host of election denying, Trump endorsed candidates are excellent examples of the quality of people the GOP promotes. It's just sad.
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You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful.
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You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful.
Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP...
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Tuberville, Walker, Boebert, MTG, and a host of election denying, Trump endorsed candidates are excellent examples of the quality of people the GOP promotes. It's just sad.
That’s because, in large part, they don’t want the government to work. They’re human Molotov cocktails, tossed by their wealthy masters in the hope of weakening the system, if not destroying it.
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The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.
Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.
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Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.
You are too kind to them.
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Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.
Smear, or smudge. Not "piece".
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That’s because, in large part, they don’t want the government to work. They’re human Molotov cocktails, tossed by their wealthy masters in the hope of weakening the system, if not destroying it.

Extremely well put!!!

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It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.

Only if one's perception if through this filter...


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Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP...
You could impale dog poo on a stick and it'd still tho that.
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I don't quite know what I am doing on Mastodon other than avoiding Twitter. But from this morning: "Sinema, with growing alarm, watches 48 straight hours of incessant 51-49 Democratic control of the Senate press coverage, realizes her increasing irrelevance, inability to be the center of attention, and her ability to generate income dwindling, gives an "exclusive" interview to Jake Tapper to announce her political "independence"
Manchin now on deck rushing trying to make himself relevant." (Alaric Aloor)
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That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.
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That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.
Non-zero chance she's gonna try to be the Presidential nominee for the Forward Party!
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That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.
Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema.
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I'll venture a prediction.
We'll be hearing some increasingly flaky stuff from her mouth as she follows the same self promotional dimwit playbook as a couple of infamous Republican women we hear to much of.
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Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

It won't change much in the here and now, but Sinema's term expires in two years.

If she doesn't run for re-election, that's fine.

If she seeks the Democratic party's nomination for the seat, then there could be a messy fight in the primary.

If she decides to run for re-election as an independent, she almost guarantees that a Republican will be elected. Judging by the Republican candidates who ran in the recently concluded election, that Republican is likely to be an anti-democracy nut job.
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Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema.
So you're saying that the Dem won because he was saying he wouldn't be a Dem? Then why didn't they just vote for a Republican? Kelly had to appeal to them more than whoever the Republican candidate was, who I'm assuming also ran on an anti-Biden and Dem platform.

Long story short, what the hell was your point here?
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I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.


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You forgot Dr. Oz.
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The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.
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The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.
There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation.
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There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation.
So party membership is effectively "I have zero obligations so it is what I feel like this morning"?
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The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.
This isn't Soviet Russia, people are allowed to leave a political party.
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So party membership is effectively "I have zero obligations so it is what I feel like this morning"?
Letting someone in who wants in is one thing. Keeping someone in who wants out is another.
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Letting someone in who wants in is one thing. Keeping someone in who wants out is another.
I'll bet the Republicans don't see GOP membership that way. Anyone who even glances left gets swiftly put in line, not allowed walk out the door.

It may be convention that the Dems allow members to change allegiance. The questions is: Can they actually stop a defection?
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To me, I think you should have to serve your term on the political party you were elected on and I'll explain why.

First, if you want to change parties then you should feel free to do that, but the voter base put you into office based on how you represented yourself. Second, in the case of the Senate, it can change the make-up of committees, votes, etc.

For the House, it's 2 years. POTUS, 4 years, Senate, 6 years. That's just my two cents, if you get voted in as a Dem then you wear the tag throughout. Of course there can be exceptions like Jan 6th or something similar, but I could see a Sinema or a Manchin changing on a whim just to be that person.
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The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.
They couldn't keep Bernie Sanders out of their primary, what makes you think they could keep someone in their party that doesn't want to be there?
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