The Kyrsten Sinema Thread

shemp · 28th September 2022, 05:55 PM

What is the difference between these two images?

Answer:

Tero · 28th September 2022, 06:18 PM

What?

She made a silly speech about filibuster a few days ago.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...d-be-restored/

a_unique_person · 29th September 2022, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Tero

What?

She made a silly speech about filibuster a few days ago.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...d-be-restored/

Just in time for McConnell when the GOP get the Senate back.

Apathia · 29th September 2022, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

What is the difference between these two images?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a33efe.jpg http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a8f54f.jpg

Answer:

Dumpster with a blue dress on.

Donal · 29th September 2022, 09:13 AM

Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right?

Right?

Beelzebuddy · 29th September 2022, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

What is the difference between these two images?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a33efe.jpg http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a8f54f.jpg

Answer:

The dumpster would make a better Senator.

wareyin · 29th September 2022, 11:40 AM

The dumpster would cost slightly more to buy off?

Upchurch · 29th September 2022, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by wareyin

The dumpster would cost slightly more to buy off?

I dunno. No matter how much you pay them, dumpster gonna dump.

Random · 29th September 2022, 03:23 PM

The thing that gets me about Sinema is not the fact that she seems to be regularly inflicting catastrophic damage to her political career. It's that she seems genuinely unable to realize it. It's like she looked at Joe Lieberman's last term in office and thought, "This is the pathway to the Presidency!"

theprestige · 29th September 2022, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Donal

Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right?

Right?

It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.

Brainster · 29th September 2022, 04:24 PM

If only Martha McSally had won, eh?

Donal · 30th September 2022, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.

I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.

*no, I still won't

wareyin · 30th September 2022, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Donal

I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.

*no, I still won't

The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.

Stacyhs · 30th September 2022, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by wareyin

The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.

Tuberville, Walker, Boebert, MTG, and a host of election denying, Trump endorsed candidates are excellent examples of the quality of people the GOP promotes. It's just sad.

Gulliver Foyle · 30th September 2022, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

What is the difference between these two images?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a33efe.jpg http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a8f54f.jpg

Answer:

You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful.

wareyin · 30th September 2022, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle

You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful.

Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP...

Regnad Kcin · 1st October 2022, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Tuberville, Walker, Boebert, MTG, and a host of election denying, Trump endorsed candidates are excellent examples of the quality of people the GOP promotes. It's just sad.

That’s because, in large part, they don’t want the government to work. They’re human Molotov cocktails, tossed by their wealthy masters in the hope of weakening the system, if not destroying it.

autumn1971 · 1st October 2022, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by wareyin

The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.

Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.

shemp · 1st October 2022, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.

You are too kind to them.

Norman Alexander · 1st October 2022, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ******* fascist piece of ****.

Smear, or smudge. Not "piece".

Leumas · 2nd October 2022, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

That’s because, in large part, they don’t want the government to work. They’re human Molotov cocktails, tossed by their wealthy masters in the hope of weakening the system, if not destroying it.

Extremely well put!!!

Leumas · 2nd October 2022, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.

Only if one's perception if through this filter...

Gulliver Foyle · 2nd October 2022, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by wareyin

Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP...

You could impale dog poo on a stick and it'd still tho that.

Tero · 9th December 2022, 07:11 AM

From a Mastodon poster:

Quote:

I don't quite know what I am doing on Mastodon other than avoiding Twitter. But from this morning: "Sinema, with growing alarm, watches 48 straight hours of incessant 51-49 Democratic control of the Senate press coverage, realizes her increasing irrelevance, inability to be the center of attention, and her ability to generate income dwindling, gives an "exclusive" interview to Jake Tapper to announce her political "independence"
Manchin now on deck rushing trying to make himself relevant." (Alaric Aloor)

plague311 · 9th December 2022, 07:16 AM

That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.

Random · 9th December 2022, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.

Non-zero chance she's gonna try to be the Presidential nominee for the Forward Party!

Brainster · 9th December 2022, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it.

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

Man she's a dope though.

Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema.

Apathia · 9th December 2022, 09:39 AM

I'll venture a prediction.
We'll be hearing some increasingly flaky stuff from her mouth as she follows the same self promotional dimwit playbook as a couple of infamous Republican women we hear to much of.

W.D.Clinger · 9th December 2022, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate.

It won't change much in the here and now, but Sinema's term expires in two years.

If she doesn't run for re-election, that's fine.

If she seeks the Democratic party's nomination for the seat, then there could be a messy fight in the primary.

If she decides to run for re-election as an independent, she almost guarantees that a Republican will be elected. Judging by the Republican candidates who ran in the recently concluded election, that Republican is likely to be an anti-democracy nut job.

plague311 · 9th December 2022, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema.

So you're saying that the Dem won because he was saying he wouldn't be a Dem? Then why didn't they just vote for a Republican? Kelly had to appeal to them more than whoever the Republican candidate was, who I'm assuming also ran on an anti-Biden and Dem platform.

Long story short, what the hell was your point here?

acbytesla · 9th December 2022, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Donal

I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &*(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship*.

They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters.

*no, I still won't

You forgot Dr. Oz.

Norman Alexander · 9th December 2022, 11:16 AM

The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.

wareyin · 9th December 2022, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.

There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation.

Norman Alexander · 9th December 2022, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by wareyin

There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation.

So party membership is effectively "I have zero obligations so it is what I feel like this morning"?

Hercules56 · 9th December 2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.

This isn't Soviet Russia, people are allowed to leave a political party.

Random · 9th December 2022, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

So party membership is effectively "I have zero obligations so it is what I feel like this morning"?

Letting someone in who wants in is one thing. Keeping someone in who wants out is another.

Norman Alexander · 9th December 2022, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Random

Letting someone in who wants in is one thing. Keeping someone in who wants out is another.

I'll bet the Republicans don't see GOP membership that way. Anyone who even glances left gets swiftly put in line, not allowed walk out the door.

It may be convention that the Dems allow members to change allegiance. The questions is: Can they actually stop a defection?

plague311 · 9th December 2022, 12:39 PM

To me, I think you should have to serve your term on the political party you were elected on and I'll explain why.

First, if you want to change parties then you should feel free to do that, but the voter base put you into office based on how you represented yourself. Second, in the case of the Senate, it can change the make-up of committees, votes, etc.

For the House, it's 2 years. POTUS, 4 years, Senate, 6 years. That's just my two cents, if you get voted in as a Dem then you wear the tag throughout. Of course there can be exceptions like Jan 6th or something similar, but I could see a Sinema or a Manchin changing on a whim just to be that person.

Regnad Kcin · 9th December 2022, 12:42 PM

This is my shocked face.

ahhell · 9th December 2022, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.

They couldn't keep Bernie Sanders out of their primary, what makes you think they could keep someone in their party that doesn't want to be there?

28th September 2022, 05:55 PM	#1
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28th September 2022, 06:18 PM	#2
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29th September 2022, 12:02 AM	#3
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29th September 2022, 08:58 AM	#4
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29th September 2022, 09:13 AM	#5
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right? Right?
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29th September 2022, 11:39 AM	#6
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,272	Originally Posted by shemp What is the difference between these two images? http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a33efe.jpg http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a8f54f.jpg Answer: There is no difference. They are the same. https://twitter.com/alohacatss/statu...09449255047168 The dumpster would make a better Senator.
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29th September 2022, 11:40 AM	#7
wareyin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 10,879	The dumpster would cost slightly more to buy off?

29th September 2022, 03:08 PM	#8
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29th September 2022, 03:23 PM	#9
Random Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,558	The thing that gets me about Sinema is not the fact that she seems to be regularly inflicting catastrophic damage to her political career. It's that she seems genuinely unable to realize it. It's like she looked at Joe Lieberman's last term in office and thought, "This is the pathway to the Presidency!"
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29th September 2022, 03:24 PM	#10
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,039	Originally Posted by Donal Since she is such a strong advocate of tradition in the Senate, I'm sure she advocates bringing back the rule that the Senator trying to filibuster must actually stand and speak the entire time, right? And to keep their speech on the topic? Right? Right? It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas.
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29th September 2022, 04:24 PM	#11
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30th September 2022, 07:23 AM	#12
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by theprestige It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas. I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship. They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters. *no, I still won't
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30th September 2022, 07:35 AM	#13
wareyin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 10,879	Originally Posted by Donal I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship. They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters. *no, I still won't The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate.

30th September 2022, 11:09 AM	#14
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,626	Originally Posted by wareyin The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate. Tuberville, Walker, Boebert, MTG, and a host of election denying, Trump endorsed candidates are excellent examples of the quality of people the GOP promotes. It's just sad.

30th September 2022, 12:48 PM	#15
Gulliver Foyle Muse Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 976	Originally Posted by shemp What is the difference between these two images? http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a33efe.jpg http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4ec8a8f54f.jpg Answer: There is no difference. They are the same. https://twitter.com/alohacatss/statu...09449255047168 You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful.

30th September 2022, 01:03 PM	#16
wareyin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 10,879	Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle You are wrong, at least the dumpster fire is capable of providing heat in these cold and high energy cost times. That is useful. Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP...

1st October 2022, 07:05 AM	#17
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1st October 2022, 09:25 AM	#18
autumn1971 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,009	Originally Posted by wareyin The fact that despite all his many obvious flaws, Herschel Walker is still polling virtually evenly with Warnock says that for GOPers, he is a valid Senate candidate. Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ***** fascist piece of **.
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1st October 2022, 10:08 AM	#19
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1st October 2022, 02:27 PM	#20
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,640	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Anyone who supports the GOP at this time in history is a ***** fascist piece of **. Smear, or smudge. Not "piece".
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2nd October 2022, 01:04 AM	#21
Leumas Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,698	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin That’s because, in large part, they don’t want the government to work. They’re human Molotov cocktails, tossed by their wealthy masters in the hope of weakening the system, if not destroying it. Extremely well put!!!
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2nd October 2022, 01:15 AM	#22
Leumas Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,698	Originally Posted by theprestige It's cute when lay observers try to play gamesmanship at the level of US senators. It's pretty obvious that the actual players at that level are already way beyond such penny-ante gotchas. Only if one's perception if through this filter...
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2nd October 2022, 11:42 PM	#23
Gulliver Foyle Muse Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 976	Originally Posted by wareyin Just because Sinema is worse than useless for her constituents doesn't mean she's completely useless. Sinema seems pretty useful to her corporate donors, and usually to the GOP... You could impale dog poo on a stick and it'd still tho that.

9th December 2022, 07:11 AM	#24
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9th December 2022, 07:16 AM	#25
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 13,709	That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it. Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate. Man she's a dope though.
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9th December 2022, 07:44 AM	#26
Random Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,558	Originally Posted by plague311 That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it. Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate. Man she's a dope though. Non-zero chance she's gonna try to be the Presidential nominee for the Forward Party!
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9th December 2022, 08:37 AM	#27
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 19,568	Originally Posted by plague311 That's pretty much what I thought. She just needed the shot of "relevantism" and this was the way to get it. Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate. Man she's a dope though. Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema.
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9th December 2022, 09:39 AM	#28
Apathia Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,568	I'll venture a prediction. We'll be hearing some increasingly flaky stuff from her mouth as she follows the same self promotional dimwit playbook as a couple of infamous Republican women we hear to much of.
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9th December 2022, 10:44 AM	#29
W.D.Clinger Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4,735	Originally Posted by plague311 Apparently it won't change much since she won't be caucusing with the GOP, and she might not be re-running at all. Which I think makes sense since she hasn't done anything but seek attention anyway. Let a real Dem sit in that seat. At least this means Federal Judicial assignments will still go quickly, and all the other bonuses that the Dems get from a 51 seat Senate. It won't change much in the here and now, but Sinema's term expires in two years. If she doesn't run for re-election, that's fine. If she seeks the Democratic party's nomination for the seat, then there could be a messy fight in the primary. If she decides to run for re-election as an independent, she almost guarantees that a Republican will be elected. Judging by the Republican candidates who ran in the recently concluded election, that Republican is likely to be an anti-democracy nut job.
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9th December 2022, 11:07 AM	#30
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 13,709	Originally Posted by Brainster Seriously, I wish some of you commenters had lived in Arizona the last six months, because if you had you would realize that Mark Kelly, the other Democratic Senator from Arizona, won because he ran on "I'll stand up to Joe Biden and the Democrats when they are wrong." You would have thought from his ads that he was Sinema. So you're saying that the Dem won because he was saying he wouldn't be a Dem? Then why didn't they just vote for a Republican? Kelly had to appeal to them more than whoever the Republican candidate was, who I'm assuming also ran on an anti-Biden and Dem platform. Long story short, what the hell was your point here?
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9th December 2022, 11:08 AM	#31
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,383	Originally Posted by Donal I'll tell you what: when Republicans stop trying to tell us Tommie Tuberville and Herschel Walker are valid Senate candidates, I'll give a flying &(% what any of them have to say about the level of US Senators' gamesmanship. They aren't playing 50D chess. They are pandering to the tiddlywinks-level voters. *no, I still won't You forgot Dr. Oz.
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9th December 2022, 11:16 AM	#32
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,640	The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change.
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9th December 2022, 11:47 AM	#33
wareyin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 10,879	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change. There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation.

9th December 2022, 11:53 AM	#34
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,640	Originally Posted by wareyin There is no mechanism for refusing her resignation. So party membership is effectively "I have zero obligations so it is what I feel like this morning"?
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9th December 2022, 12:05 PM	#35
Hercules56 Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,985	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander The Dems could refuse her "resignation" from the party, so she could not become "independent". She could act independent in the Senate, but she always has. So no change. This isn't Soviet Russia, people are allowed to leave a political party.