Ye likes Hitler - Page 5

Thermal · 31st December 2022, 12:41 PM

It would be interesting to see this "fine" state sometime. The "goes off the deep end once a year" thing seems to last about 364 days.

newyorkguy · 1st January 2023, 07:22 AM

Ye's dinner with trump has created a problem with Jared Kushner and wife Ivanka, both Modern Orthodox Jews. From New York magazine:

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In the past, the dinner with Ye and Fuentes would have become the responsibility of Ivanka and Jared. They were there when Trump hesitated to condemn David Duke, and when he shared an offensive image of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash, and when he repeatedly told a Jewish group, “I don’t want your money.” Melania may have gone on record to say, “He’s not Hitler,” but it was Ivanka and Jared, the only Jewish members of the family, who could actually help him wriggle out of trouble...When calls began to come in looking for help, looking for public support, even looking for a response, Kushner refused. New York article link

In interviews trump has claimed to be unaware of Ye's past anti-Semitic comments saying, "I don't study Kanye West."

Doubt · 1st January 2023, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

It would be interesting to see this "fine" state sometime. The "goes off the deep end once a year" thing seems to last about 364 days.

When recovering from the depressed state and heading to the manic state, people with bipolar disorder can seem pretty normal. An aunt of mine who is not too bright but is an RN kept fooling herself when her ex husband was coming out of a depressed situation. She would think he was getting better but it was just the transition heading back to the manic phase.

mikegriffith1 · 22nd January 2023, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Donal

I mean, his very good friend also had some nice things to say about good old Adolph.

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Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler.

If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish.

The Great Zaganza · 22nd January 2023, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler.

If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish.

not mutually exclusive.

mikegriffith1 · 22nd January 2023, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

not mutually exclusive.

"Not mutually exclusive"??? Really??? In what reality? Not in this one.

And I again note the fact that Owens says nothing positive about Hitler in the linked video. She wasn't even talking about Hitler but about the term "nationalism." Her brief comment about Hitler, which condemned him for being bent on world domination, was incidental to her main point that "nationalism" in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. She cited the case of Hitler to show that when applied to an extreme, the idea of nationalism can be bad.

The Great Zaganza · 22nd January 2023, 06:43 AM

plenty of US christiano-nationalists are both pro-Israel and pro Third Reich. Reason being that they want the Apocalypse to happen soon, at which point Jesus will come back on turn 1/3 of all Jews Christian, after the other 2/3rds have been killed of. But that requires Israel to hold the Holy Land.
Owens will happily tap into the evangelical mindset in order to make a buck anytime.

Upchurch · 22nd January 2023, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler.

If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish.

She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore).

ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true.

Gulliver Foyle · 23rd January 2023, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore).

ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true.

Remember, Mikey thinks David Irvine's not a holocaust denier. This is not a person well acquainted with reality.

Donal · 23rd January 2023, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler.

So, what Hitler did inside Germany was "fine"?

Quote:

If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish.

Candace Owens is fiercely pro her own bank account. She passionately believes in what she's paid to talk about at that moment. Of course, her interest only last for that moment. That is why she wasn't prepared for that speech where she talked herself into a circle so badly that she ended up defending Hitler.

Donal · 23rd January 2023, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

plenty of US christiano-nationalists are both pro-Israel and pro Third Reich. Reason being that they want the Apocalypse to happen soon, at which point Jesus will come back on turn 1/3 of all Jews Christian, after the other 2/3rds have been killed of. But that requires Israel to hold the Holy Land.
Owens will happily tap into the evangelical mindset in order to make a buck anytime.

It reminds of that character from the last 2 or 3 seasons of Veep, Sherman Tanz. He was a Sheldon Adelson analog. He had a line about Richard Nixon being "such a terrible anti-Semite. Great friend of Israel, though".

A lot of the hyper-Christian pro-Israel antisemitism is a holdover of the Cold War when Israel was seen as another check on Soviet influence in the region, especially after. And since Iran-Contra Ronnie helped elevate the super Christians in the GOP, they made The US foreign policy at the time a mission from God. But without the cool Gospel and R&B music.

Stacyhs · 24th January 2023, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore).

ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true.

As in build concentration camps inside Germany like Hitler did? Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Mauthausen, Buchenwald, etc.?

31st December 2022, 12:41 PM	#161
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 21,170	It would be interesting to see this "fine" state sometime. The "goes off the deep end once a year" thing seems to last about 364 days.
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1st January 2023, 10:37 AM	#163
Doubt Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 7,733	Originally Posted by Thermal It would be interesting to see this "fine" state sometime. The "goes off the deep end once a year" thing seems to last about 364 days. When recovering from the depressed state and heading to the manic state, people with bipolar disorder can seem pretty normal. An aunt of mine who is not too bright but is an RN kept fooling herself when her ex husband was coming out of a depressed situation. She would think he was getting better but it was just the transition heading back to the manic phase.
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22nd January 2023, 05:19 AM	#165
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,305	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler. If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish. not mutually exclusive.
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22nd January 2023, 06:24 AM	#166
mikegriffith1 Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 486	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza not mutually exclusive. "Not mutually exclusive"??? Really??? In what reality? Not in this one. And I again note the fact that Owens says nothing positive about Hitler in the linked video. She wasn't even talking about Hitler but about the term "nationalism." Her brief comment about Hitler, which condemned him for being bent on world domination, was incidental to her main point that "nationalism" in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. She cited the case of Hitler to show that when applied to an extreme, the idea of nationalism can be bad.
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22nd January 2023, 06:43 AM	#167
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,305	plenty of US christiano-nationalists are both pro-Israel and pro Third Reich. Reason being that they want the Apocalypse to happen soon, at which point Jesus will come back on turn 1/3 of all Jews Christian, after the other 2/3rds have been killed of. But that requires Israel to hold the Holy Land. Owens will happily tap into the evangelical mindset in order to make a buck anytime.
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22nd January 2023, 07:10 AM	#168
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 33,430	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler. If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish. She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore). ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true.
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23rd January 2023, 06:02 AM	#169
Gulliver Foyle Muse Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 967	Originally Posted by Upchurch She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore). ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true. Remember, Mikey thinks David Irvine's not a holocaust denier. This is not a person well acquainted with reality.

23rd January 2023, 06:57 AM	#170
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 Your claim is false. Candace Owens says nothing nice about Hitler in this video. Not one word. Only someone determined to twist her words and ignore the thrust of her comments would claim that she "had some nice things" to say about Hitler. So, what Hitler did inside Germany was "fine"? Quote: If you know anything about Candace Owens, you should know that she is fiercely pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish. Candace Owens is fiercely pro her own bank account. She passionately believes in what she's paid to talk about at that moment. Of course, her interest only last for that moment. That is why she wasn't prepared for that speech where she talked herself into a circle so badly that she ended up defending Hitler.
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23rd January 2023, 08:28 AM	#171
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza plenty of US christiano-nationalists are both pro-Israel and pro Third Reich. Reason being that they want the Apocalypse to happen soon, at which point Jesus will come back on turn 1/3 of all Jews Christian, after the other 2/3rds have been killed of. But that requires Israel to hold the Holy Land. Owens will happily tap into the evangelical mindset in order to make a buck anytime. It reminds of that character from the last 2 or 3 seasons of Veep, Sherman Tanz. He was a Sheldon Adelson analog. He had a line about Richard Nixon being "such a terrible anti-Semite. Great friend of Israel, though". A lot of the hyper-Christian pro-Israel antisemitism is a holdover of the Cold War when Israel was seen as another check on Soviet influence in the region, especially after. And since Iran-Contra Ronnie helped elevate the super Christians in the GOP, they made The US foreign policy at the time a mission from God. But without the cool Gospel and R&B music.
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24th January 2023, 03:22 AM	#172
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by Upchurch She literally said that what he wanted to do inside Germany was “fine”. You do understand what Hitler was doing inside of Germany, right? It’s not a big secret (anymore). ETA: I also note the dig that Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist, as of that were remotely true. As in build concentration camps inside Germany like Hitler did? Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Mauthausen, Buchenwald, etc.?