is the president your leader? - Page 2

BobTheCoward · 16th January 2023, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by arayder

Oh, please. The old trick of cherry picking definition. Maybe the President is a later in another sense of the word?

I was sparing you

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noun
noun: leader; plural noun: leaders
1.
the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country.
"the leader of a protest group"
Similar:
chief
head
principal
boss
commander
captain
figurehead
controller
superior
kingpin
headman
mover and shaker
chairman
chairwoman
chairperson
chair
convener
moderator
director
managing director
MD
manager
superintendent
supervisor
overseer
administrator
employer
master
mistress
foreman
president
premier
governor
ruler
monarch
king
queen
sovereign
emperor
tsar
prince
princess
lord
lord and master
elder
patriarch
guru
mentor
authority
boss man
skipper
top dog
number one
big cheese
big noise
bigwig
big shot
gaffer
guv'nor
honcho
Mister Big
numero uno
sachem
padrone
Opposite:
follower
supporter
(in the UK) a member of the government officially responsible for initiating business in the House of Commons or House of Lords.
noun: Leader of the House; plural noun: Leaders of the House; noun: Leader of the House of Commons; plural noun: Leaders of the House of Commons; noun: Leader of the House of Lords; plural noun: Leaders of the House of Lords
an organization or company that is the most advanced or successful in a particular area.
"a leader in the use of video conferencing"
Similar:
pioneer
front runner
innovator
trailblazer
pathfinder
groundbreaker
trendsetter
leading light
guiding light
torchbearer
flagbearer
pacemaker
originator
initiator
developer
discoverer
founder
architect
neoteric
2.
the principal player in a music group.
BRITISH
the principal first violinist in an orchestra.
NORTH AMERICAN
a conductor of a band or small musical group.
3.
BRITISH
a leading article or editorial in a newspaper.
4.
a short strip of nonfunctioning material at each end of a reel of film or recording tape for connection to the spool.
a length of filament attached to the end of a fishing line to carry the hook or fly.
5.
a shoot of a plant at the apex of a stem or main branch.
6.
PRINTING
a series of dots or dashes across the page to guide the eye, especially in tabulated material

JoeMorgue · 16th January 2023, 11:37 AM

Join us next week for another rousing episode of "Bob pretends he doesn't know how language works."

jt512 · 16th January 2023, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

noun
noun: leader; plural noun: leaders
1.
the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country.

I don't think he leads or commands the country, but maybe I am wrong?

Originally Posted by Upchurch

Yes, you are wrong. He leads one of three co-equal branches of the US Government, but he is also responsible to the electorate and takes some guidance from us (or isn’t re-elected)

In other words, he was right.

Craig4 · 16th January 2023, 11:56 AM

In what way does the president not lead that portion of the government the Constitution places under his direction?

BobTheCoward · 16th January 2023, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

In what way does the president not lead that portion of the government the Constitution places under his direction?

No one disputes that. The question is if that means if he leads us as individuals or the country.

Steve · 16th January 2023, 01:07 PM

No.

Craig4 · 16th January 2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

No one disputes that. The question is if that means if he leads us as individuals or the country.

Of course not. Where is there anything in our founding documents or the law that says he does? Why would you even think the president leads us as individuals?

Stacyhs · 16th January 2023, 01:09 PM

Really?

Myriad · 16th January 2023, 01:20 PM

The U.S. President is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces.

Check your synonym list for the words "commander" and "chief" and see what you find.

I'm not a member of the U.S. armed forces so the U.S. president is not my leader at present. But I'm a U.S. citizen, so in an emergency or martial law situation that could change (whether I liked it or not).

novaphile · 16th January 2023, 02:58 PM

Bob, when you use the term: 'the' what do you mean?

And why have you shifted from 'your' to 'the' and 'country' ?

Roger Ramjets · 16th January 2023, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

I never understood the notion that the president leads the country. I just don't take any cues from the president

Cue
noun
1. a thing said or done that serves as a signal to an actor or other performer to enter or to begin their speech or performance.

I sometimes wonder if your arguments are just an act...

Stacyhs · 16th January 2023, 08:44 PM

This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen.

BobTheCoward · 16th January 2023, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Of course not. Where is there anything in our founding documents or the law that says he does? Why would you even think the president leads us as individuals?

I'm thinking of times of national tragedy and media corespondents talk about leadership moments, or leading during tragedy, etc.

Norman Alexander · 16th January 2023, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen.

I was thinking exactly the same thing!

The Great Zaganza · 17th January 2023, 12:15 AM

Sure, I'll obey every lawful order The President gives me..
in person...
I'm private.

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Parsman · 17th January 2023, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen.

Stachys, meet every BobTheCoward thread ever.

Trebuchet · 17th January 2023, 01:38 PM

But it's the last one he'll ever start, so that's something!

Upchurch · 17th January 2023, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen.

Is it?

JoeMorgue · 17th January 2023, 01:51 PM

Nobody is trying to prove anything with Bayesian Statistics so it cannot be, by definition, the stupidest argument ever.

Stacyhs · 17th January 2023, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Parsman

Stachys, meet every BobTheCoward thread ever.

I know! I had him on my ignore list for exactly that.

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

But it's the last one he'll ever start, so that's something!

So he got banned at last! Hallelujah!

mgidm86 · 17th January 2023, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I know! I had him on my ignore list for exactly that.

So he got banned at last! Hallelujah!

Oh wow didn't even know. Huh.

16th January 2023, 10:56 AM	#41
BobTheCoward Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 22,789	Originally Posted by arayder Oh, please. The old trick of cherry picking definition. Maybe the President is a later in another sense of the word? I was sparing you Quote: oks noun noun: leader; plural noun: leaders 1. the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country. "the leader of a protest group" Similar: chief head principal boss commander captain figurehead controller superior kingpin headman mover and shaker chairman chairwoman chairperson chair convener moderator director managing director MD manager superintendent supervisor overseer administrator employer master mistress foreman president premier governor ruler monarch king queen sovereign emperor tsar prince princess lord lord and master elder patriarch guru mentor authority boss man skipper top dog number one big cheese big noise bigwig big shot gaffer guv'nor honcho Mister Big numero uno sachem padrone Opposite: follower supporter (in the UK) a member of the government officially responsible for initiating business in the House of Commons or House of Lords. noun: Leader of the House; plural noun: Leaders of the House; noun: Leader of the House of Commons; plural noun: Leaders of the House of Commons; noun: Leader of the House of Lords; plural noun: Leaders of the House of Lords an organization or company that is the most advanced or successful in a particular area. "a leader in the use of video conferencing" Similar: pioneer front runner innovator trailblazer pathfinder groundbreaker trendsetter leading light guiding light torchbearer flagbearer pacemaker originator initiator developer discoverer founder architect neoteric 2. the principal player in a music group. BRITISH the principal first violinist in an orchestra. NORTH AMERICAN a conductor of a band or small musical group. 3. BRITISH a leading article or editorial in a newspaper. 4. a short strip of nonfunctioning material at each end of a reel of film or recording tape for connection to the spool. a length of filament attached to the end of a fishing line to carry the hook or fly. 5. a shoot of a plant at the apex of a stem or main branch. 6. PRINTING a series of dots or dashes across the page to guide the eye, especially in tabulated material
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16th January 2023, 11:38 AM	#43
jt512 Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,919	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward noun noun: leader; plural noun: leaders 1. the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country. I don't think he leads or commands the country, but maybe I am wrong? Originally Posted by Upchurch Yes, you are wrong. He leads one of three co-equal branches of the US Government, but he is also responsible to the electorate and takes some guidance from us (or isn’t re-elected) In other words, he was right.
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16th January 2023, 11:56 AM	#44
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 26,497	In what way does the president not lead that portion of the government the Constitution places under his direction?
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16th January 2023, 12:03 PM	#45
BobTheCoward Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 22,789	Originally Posted by Craig4 In what way does the president not lead that portion of the government the Constitution places under his direction? No one disputes that. The question is if that means if he leads us as individuals or the country.
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16th January 2023, 01:07 PM	#46
Steve Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 12,006	is the president your leader? No.
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16th January 2023, 11:37 AM	#42
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16th January 2023, 01:09 PM	#47
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 26,497	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward No one disputes that. The question is if that means if he leads us as individuals or the country. Of course not. Where is there anything in our founding documents or the law that says he does? Why would you even think the president leads us as individuals?
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16th January 2023, 01:09 PM	#48
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Really?

16th January 2023, 01:20 PM	#49
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 19,783	The U.S. President is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces. Check your synonym list for the words "commander" and "chief" and see what you find. I'm not a member of the U.S. armed forces so the U.S. president is not my leader at present. But I'm a U.S. citizen, so in an emergency or martial law situation that could change (whether I liked it or not).
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16th January 2023, 02:58 PM	#50
novaphile Quester of Doglets Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 3,991	Bob, when you use the term: 'the' what do you mean? And why have you shifted from 'your' to 'the' and 'country' ?
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16th January 2023, 03:19 PM	#51
Roger Ramjets Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 6,041	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward I never understood the notion that the president leads the country. I just don't take any cues from the president Cue noun 1. a thing said or done that serves as a signal to an actor or other performer to enter or to begin their speech or performance. I sometimes wonder if your arguments are just an act...
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16th January 2023, 08:44 PM	#52
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen.

16th January 2023, 08:48 PM	#53
BobTheCoward Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 22,789	Originally Posted by Craig4 Of course not. Where is there anything in our founding documents or the law that says he does? Why would you even think the president leads us as individuals? I'm thinking of times of national tragedy and media corespondents talk about leadership moments, or leading during tragedy, etc.
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16th January 2023, 11:36 PM	#54
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17th January 2023, 12:15 AM	#55
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17th January 2023, 06:51 AM	#56
Parsman Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 888	Originally Posted by Stacyhs This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen. Stachys, meet every BobTheCoward thread ever.
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17th January 2023, 01:38 PM	#57
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17th January 2023, 01:50 PM	#58
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 33,430	Originally Posted by Stacyhs This has to be one of the silliest discussions I've ever seen. Is it?
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17th January 2023, 01:51 PM	#59
JoeMorgue Suspended Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 42,380	Nobody is trying to prove anything with Bayesian Statistics so it cannot be, by definition, the stupidest argument ever.

17th January 2023, 01:55 PM	#60
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by Parsman Stachys, meet every BobTheCoward thread ever. I know! I had him on my ignore list for exactly that. Originally Posted by Trebuchet But it's the last one he'll ever start, so that's something! So he got banned at last! Hallelujah!

17th January 2023, 08:29 PM	#61
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,471	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I know! I had him on my ignore list for exactly that. So he got banned at last! Hallelujah! Oh wow didn't even know. Huh.
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