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Old 19th October 2020, 04:50 PM   #281
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What's even scarier than Trump's nonsensical ramblings are that there are so many idiots who nod, clap and cheer for him when he says them.
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Old 19th October 2020, 04:52 PM   #282
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump says
"I call the head of Exxon. I'll use a company. 'How, how are you doing, how's energy coming? When are you doing the exploration? Oh, you need a couple of permits, huh?' But I call the head of Exxon, I say, 'you know, I'd love you to send me $25m for the campaign'"
And Exxon have already disavowed that sentiment on Twitter. Along the lines of "Such a call never took place"
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:00 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by Trump
I don't know why we wouldn't win California.“
OK, that is a really weird thing to say.
President Trump is actually telling the truth right there.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:00 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by chrispy View Post
The sheer and utter disregard for science will one day come back and bite the Republicans on their collective ass. Intelligent design and all that bullcrap is silly, sure, but the climate denial **** mixed with killing hundreds of thousands of Americans due to the doubt-casting on scientific minds that are trying to save lives will never age well. Trump is an evil, evil man.
What I want to know is was this leaked with Trump's Blessing, or it a Legit Leak?
If Trump think this will help him, then he hhas lost any sanity he had about his reelection. He needs to convince Indies and Swingvoters to vote for him, this will just drive more away.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:01 PM   #285
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
And Exxon have already disavowed that sentiment on Twitter. Along the lines of "Such a call never took place"
Their exact quote: "We are aware of the President’s statement regarding a hypothetical call with our CEO…and just so we’re all clear, it never happened."

As Jim Wright just put it: "When Exxon is the good guy in the story... there aren't any good guys."
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:04 PM   #286
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Just as a matter of course when this comes up, I think that it's worth directly pointing out that Al Gore didn't claim that.
That's why I even said it was less legitimate than the CLAIM that Al Gore invented the internet. Considering that Al Gore never even said that, the claim that Al Gore invented the internet is still more valid than the claim that Lee Zeldin has done more to advance science than his opponent.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:06 PM   #287
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I don't know why we wouldn't win California.“
Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
OK, that is a really weird thing to say.
President Trump is actually telling the truth right there.
He WILL win California, after the Scrotus throws out all the illegal mail-in illegal alien mail-in ballots!
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:12 PM   #288
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Just as a
Reminds me of a comparison. Our choice is pretty much Thanos vs Mr. Rogers.
I see him more as Thanos with the Sociopathy Gem and the Idiocy Gem.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:21 PM   #289
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Originally Posted by CORed View Post
How about, after he loses the election and gets convicted of whatever, we give him a rake, send him to California and tell him to get with it? He can be released after he finishes raking every square mile of forest floor in California.
I'd be fair about it. He's always been an east coast guy... I'd only make him work the Federal lands.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:27 PM   #290
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RAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:33 PM   #291
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
He WILL win California, after the Scrotus throws out all the illegal mail-in illegal alien mail-in ballots!
Plausible, but if you keep reposting this... you're gonna owe Minoosh a Xanax scrip.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:47 PM   #292
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
What I want to know is was this leaked with Trump's Blessing, or it a Legit Leak?
If Trump think this will help him, then he hhas lost any sanity he had about his reelection. He needs to convince Indies and Swingvoters to vote for him, this will just drive more away.
He knew that members of the media were likely on the call. At one point, he even says something like go ahead and quote me, I don't care.
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Old 19th October 2020, 05:54 PM   #293
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RAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Old 19th October 2020, 06:01 PM   #294
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I see him more as Thanos with the Sociopathy Gem and the Idiocy Gem.
Mmm. If you actually want to go deeper into the Trump/Thanos comparison, there are notable differences, of course.

To use the movie version for ease's sake - Thanos actively worked to kill half the life in the universe as his very short term solution to solve a problem that wasn't actually a problem in most of where the solution was applied and caused a heck of a lot more problems that were much worse in many places. Sociopathy and Idiocy seem pretty intrinsic in that, in a rather modern day "conservative" way - empathy for a rather limited set of people and easily obsessed with harmful ideas that would indeed be a direct solution to a specific problem (I'm immediately reminded of the right-wing sentiment that I heard from a number of right-wingers, and only right-wingers, that we should just nuke North Korea and be done with it, which would indeed solve that problem while causing a heck of a lot more, among other things). On the other hand, he tried to apply it "fairly" and, once he accomplished his goal/obsession, he relinquished power entirely and removed himself from the playing field. He was strong, intelligent, dedicated, and arguably selfless, even if he was also sociopathic and was pursuing an idiotic goal.

Very little of that applies to Trump, I think. Trump's actions to try to kill us are in a completely different vein, where the main higher goal is to try to save face and rally support to stay in power.
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Old 19th October 2020, 06:17 PM   #295
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Old 19th October 2020, 06:18 PM   #296
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He's going to rake the forest floors.
Close. He's trying to rake in the dough.
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That's always been with the problem with Trump. He has zero good qualities.

I think that's missed in a lot of "Is Trump the worst President ever?" discussions or when we get told that we Bush (take your pick) or Reagan shouldn't be remembered more fondly because they compare favorably to Trump.

It's not that exactly. It's that there are absolutely no positives to Trump.

You can argue that Bush, Reagan, Nixons, etc good qualities didn't make up for their bad ones, but at least they had good qualities to put on the scale to be weighed, even if the scale was still laughably lopsided.
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Old 19th October 2020, 06:29 PM   #298
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Without providing details on policy, the US president told supporters on Sunday that “the women come up to me, the women they say dont like me, they actually do like me a lot”.
Yeah, sure, Donnie. The Secret Service lets any number of women to come up to you for a chat. Go ahead, pull the other one.
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Yeah, sure, Donnie. The Secret Service lets any number of women to come up to you for a chat. Go ahead, pull the other one.
Well, the Secret Service are only human. Can you imagine being around that guy all the time? The temptation must be terrible: "Well, she's carrying a knife in each hand and is frothing at the mouth. I say we give her the benefit of the doubt and let her talk to him alone for a few minutes."
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There has never been a time in either of my two Campaigns when I felt we had a stronger chance of winning than we do right now. Early voting reports look far stronger than originally anticipated. Every RALLY is BOFFO.
@MarkMeadows & team are doing a fantastic job..
What does that mean...that the reports were written on 30 lb paper instead of the usual 24 lb?
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GREAT news! New government of Sudan, which is making great progress, agreed to pay $335 MILLION to U.S. terror victims and families. Once deposited, I will lift Sudan from the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. At long last, JUSTICE for the American people and BIG step for Sudan!
That's classic Trump. He thinks mere money will make victims of terrorism whole again. **** him and the horse he rode in on.
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Old 19th October 2020, 07:06 PM   #302
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Without providing details on policy, the US president told supporters on Sunday that “the women come up to me, the women they say dont like me, they actually do like me a lot”.
The perfect example of Trumpism.
Sure the women say they don’t like me, but c’mon. Who’s going to turn down a slice of this.
He is completely ignoring what women say.
He is doing it partly out of having no respect for women and partly because he cannot conceive of any world which lacks all women (even the lesbians) wanting to sleep with him.
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Old 19th October 2020, 07:12 PM   #303
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Trump said "People are pandemic'd-out. You know that? They're pandemic'd-out. That's why it's so great what your governor has done. He's opened up your state ... by the way, you get it ... I'm here. And now I'm immune. I can jump into this audience and kiss every man and woman"
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Trump said "People are pandemic'd-out. You know that? They're pandemic'd-out. That's why it's so great what your governor has done. He's opened up your state ... by the way, you get it ... I'm here. And now I'm immune. I can jump into this audience and kiss every man and woman"
Because I received an experimental treatment immediately upon testing positive that YOU won't get that probably saved my life! You won't even know you're sick until you start getting symptoms and you won't get this treatment because you're not the POTUS! SUCKERS!
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Because I received an experimental treatment immediately upon testing positive that YOU won't get that probably saved my life! You won't even know you're sick until you start getting symptoms and you won't get this treatment because you're not the POTUS! SUCKERS!
And they won’t have 12 doctors standing around poking different parts of their bodies. And the each won’t have a surgical suite reserved for only them.

And as for Trump kissing every man and woman in the crowd. I expect him to stop cheating at golf before he puckers up.
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And they won’t have 12 doctors standing around poking different parts of their bodies. And the each won’t have a surgical suite reserved for only them.

And as for Trump kissing every man and woman in the crowd. I expect him to stop cheating at golf before he puckers up.
With that pucker he could reach them from the podium.
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Plausible, but if you keep reposting this... you're gonna owe Minoosh a Xanax scrip.
Nah, I'll be fine as long as my state legalizes recreational weed
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Nah, I'll be fine as long as my state legalizes recreational weed
Fair enough.
I could walk a couple hundred yards to the Bahama Bud's (just one of a handful of shops in this tiny Oregon town) but I'm one of the unfortunate who gets the hyper-anxiety reaction.
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Their exact quote: "We are aware of the President’s statement regarding a hypothetical call with our CEO…and just so we’re all clear, it never happened."

As Jim Wright just put it: "When Exxon is the good guy in the story... there aren't any good guys."
Given that what this is about is Trump openly bragging about asking Exxon for a bribe, they're not coming out as the good guy, they're just coming out as the Not A Delusional Moron.
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Given that what this is about is Trump openly bragging about asking Exxon for a bribe, they're not coming out as the good guy, they're just coming out as the Not A Delusional Moron.
I suspect it is more along the lines of "SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT THE BRIBES YOU STUPID ******* MORAN!"
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OK, that is a really weird thing to say.

President Trump is actually telling the truth right there.
If an infinity of monkeys in infinite time can type Shakespeare's entire works it is only a bit more unlikely that Trump will eventually randomly put words together that say something truthful.
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Governor Cuomo has shown tremendously poor leadership skills in running N.Y. Bad time for him to be writing and promoting a book, especially since he has done such a poor job with Covid and Crime. So many unnecessary deaths. The City & State have sunk to historic lows...

....Washington wants nothing to do with him, and that’s so bad for New York, which has become a ghost town. Andrew spends too much time listening to his brother, Fredo. Forget the books and your apology tour. The Federal Government would love to help New York regain its luster!
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Governor Cuomo has shown tremendously poor leadership skills in running N.Y. Bad time for him to be writing and promoting a book, especially since he has done such a poor job with Covid and Crime. So many unnecessary deaths. The City & State have sunk to historic lows...

....Washington wants nothing to do with him, and that’s so bad for New York, which has become a ghost town. Andrew spends too much time listening to his brother, Fredo. Forget the books and your apology tour. The Federal Government would love to help New York regain its luster!
Guhhh, what???
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Governor Cuomo has shown tremendously poor leadership skills in running N.Y. Bad time for him to be writing and promoting a book, especially since he has done such a poor job with Covid and Crime. So many unnecessary deaths. The City & State have sunk to historic lows...

....Washington wants nothing to do with him, and that’s so bad for New York, which has become a ghost town. Andrew spends too much time listening to his brother, Fredo. Forget the books and your apology tour. The Federal Government would love to help New York regain its luster!
This is why I find it extremely unlikely Trump will win in two weeks. In 2016, Trump had a reasonably disciplined strategy going after key swing, Rust Belt states. What's he doing going for New York voters? Biden has a 30 point lead in New York. He needs to focus on the toss-up states and try to bring back at least one of the lean blue states he won in 2016. He shouldn't be wasting a single tweet or throw away line on New York. This smacks of desperation.
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Bad time for him to be writing and promoting a book, especially since he has done such a poor job with Covid and Crime.

As opposed to all of his cronies and sycophants whose books he regularly promotes on Twitter.
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This is why I find it extremely unlikely Trump will win in two weeks. In 2016, Trump had a reasonably disciplined strategy going after key swing, Rust Belt states. What's he doing going for New York voters? Biden has a 30 point lead in New York. He needs to focus on the toss-up states and try to bring back at least one of the lean blue states he won in 2016. He shouldn't be wasting a single tweet or throw away line on New York. This smacks of desperation.
For a normal person, that would sound like desperation.
But we should note three things

First, Trump’s philosophy has always been, “ as everybody goes through life, one needs to stop and insult the people and things that you hate. I don’t want to be one of those people who sit on death beds and say ‘I wish I spent more time telling the people I hate exactly how much I hated them”.’

2. In MAGAland, you can never go wrong insulting New York.

(C) as Trump’s mind ossifies, he becomes less creative. So, when he needs an insult he simply picks one that has been leveled at him. I think I read somewhere that this idea is part of a plan that is code-named Project Ion.
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This is why I find it extremely unlikely Trump will win in two weeks. In 2016, Trump had a reasonably disciplined strategy going after key swing, Rust Belt states. What's he doing going for New York voters? Biden has a 30 point lead in New York. He needs to focus on the toss-up states and try to bring back at least one of the lean blue states he won in 2016. He shouldn't be wasting a single tweet or throw away line on New York. This smacks of desperation.
This assumes that Trump tweets have to do with anything but ranting about the last thing he saw on TV.
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Trump said "People are pandemic'd-out. You know that? They're pandemic'd-out. That's why it's so great what your governor has done. He's opened up your state ... by the way, you get it ... I'm here. And now I'm immune. I can jump into this audience and kiss every man and woman"
Is it weird that lately he's repeatedly talking about kissing men?
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Is it weird that lately he's repeatedly talking about kissing men?
I've heard he may be biohazard-curious.
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