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Old 8th November 2020, 09:30 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
Executive orders cancelling most of Trumpís executive orders. Examples include the Trump EO issued on October 21 that reclassified thousands of civil service positions as political appointments. Trumps executive orders regarding DACA. The orders diverting funds to build the Mexican Wall.
That's where my head is at as well.
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Old 8th November 2020, 09:54 AM   #82
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Also remember that one of the first things he did was unleash the MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) just to show that he could make a bigger blast than anyone else. Never mind what the target was.
Some tunnels in Afghanistan. Which - who cares enough to do anything about?

As far as drones go, as much as the left likes to get worked up about them, truth is the majority can't seem to explain why. Fact is, UAVs are here to stay, that's the end of it, and yelling the word "DRONES!!" for the entire Obama administration did nothing to advance a discussion of, say, how and when they're actually used. In other words, they're doing nothing useful.

And yeah, then Dolt 45 got into office, and they just completely ignored it, and everyone said "Oh. Guess you didn't really care then."

Truth is, you have to work hard to get US voters to care much about foreign policy as a whole.
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:07 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
Executive orders cancelling most of Trumpís executive orders. Examples include the Trump EO issued on October 21 that reclassified thousands of civil service positions as political appointments. Trumps executive orders regarding DACA. The orders diverting funds to build the Mexican Wall.
There's already a list, including much of that, as well as Paris Climate, the WHO, lifting the Muslim ban, strengthening ethics guidelines, and ensuring that his administration won't unduly influence the Justice department (although I expect that reinvigorating work against white supremacy groups and rioting/violent police departments will be high priority.)
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:36 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
Executive orders cancelling most of Trumpís executive orders. Examples include the Trump EO issued on October 21 that reclassified thousands of civil service positions as political appointments. Trumps executive orders regarding DACA. The orders diverting funds to build the Mexican Wall.
Trump will have fired many of those civil servants by the time Biden takes office.
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:46 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Trump will have fired many of those civil servants by the time Biden takes office.
And Biden can rehire them and let them know it when they are fired.
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:53 AM   #86
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Still waiting to hear who owns Biden. Whose interests has he served?

Did he disavow the neocons Weapons of Mass Destruction, or vote along with them in the Senate?


How about Kamala, whose interests has she served in her time?
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Old 8th November 2020, 11:08 AM   #87
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This is going to be a difficult thread to keep lively after the first few months of Biden's tenure. Without Biden constantly tweeting, holding rallies and self-aggrandizing press conferences, and continuously inserting himself into the news cycle, actual things to talk about will be much farther between, and we'll have to pad the interim with jokes and references. The Total Landscape of the presidency will have changed.
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Old 8th November 2020, 11:32 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
This is going to be a difficult thread to keep lively after the first few months of Biden's tenure. Without Biden constantly tweeting, holding rallies and self-aggrandizing press conferences, and continuously inserting himself into the news cycle, actual things to talk about will be much farther between, and we'll have to pad the interim with jokes and references. The Total Landscape of the presidency will have changed.
Not to mention, our Forum.
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Old 8th November 2020, 11:38 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
This is going to be a difficult thread to keep lively after the first few months of Biden's tenure. Without Biden constantly tweeting, holding rallies and self-aggrandizing press conferences, and continuously inserting himself into the news cycle, actual things to talk about will be much farther between, and we'll have to pad the interim with jokes and references. The Total Landscape of the presidency will have changed.
It'll definitely be a slower thread, I agree. But I predict the Rs on this forum and in the political landscape in general will suddenly remember how upset they are with US debts and military actions that they forgot about under Trump. They're going to suddenly remember how they used to think Executive Orders were tyranny. We're going to have years of Hunter Biden laptops showing up everywhere, complaints about suit colors and claims that well known Catholic Biden is a secret radical atheist.

All the nonsense they screamed about under Obama is coming back, with extra hypocrisy on claims of corruption and unlawful actions.
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Old 8th November 2020, 11:55 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Still waiting to hear who owns Biden. Whose interests has he served?

Did he disavow the neocons Weapons of Mass Destruction, or vote along with them in the Senate?


How about Kamala, whose interests has she served in her time?

In the interest of Transparency, I have to admit that Biden in the pocket of Big Cute Puppy.

And Harris is biased against ********ting.

This no doubt will affect their way of governing.
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Old 8th November 2020, 01:38 PM   #91
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
This is going to be a difficult thread to keep lively after the first few months of Biden's tenure. Without Biden constantly tweeting, holding rallies and self-aggrandizing press conferences, and continuously inserting himself into the news cycle, actual things to talk about will be much farther between, and we'll have to pad the interim with jokes and references.
I doubt we'll have too much trouble if Senate obstructionism is considered on topic.
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Old 8th November 2020, 01:48 PM   #92
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And Biden can rehire them and let them know it when they are fired.

I think as part of the transition, Biden should also announce that if anyone is fired by Trump for obviously partisan reasons, not only will they be re-hired immediately after Biden takes office, it will be the policy of the government to not oppose their wrongful dismissal suits, so they'll actually end up making more money if Trump tries to **** with them.
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Old 8th November 2020, 04:33 PM   #93
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Not sure if this has been mentioned....

One of the first headaches that Biden will have is that Stephen Breyer, a liberal supreme court justics is 82. He's even older than Biden! If he wants another liberal on the bench to replace him then Biden needs to think of a way he can persuade a (likely) Republican controlled Senate to allow his replacement.
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Old 8th November 2020, 04:45 PM   #94
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Not sure if this has been mentioned....

One of the first headaches that Biden will have is that Stephen Breyer, a liberal supreme court justics is 82. He's even older than Biden! If he wants another liberal on the bench to replace him then Biden needs to think of a way he can persuade a (likely) Republican controlled Senate to allow his replacement.
Yep. But history has taught us is that SCOTUS, both as a group and as individuals, doesn't seem to like being told what to do and likes to maintain the illusion that it is above partisanship even now when it can no longer even pretend it is.

And as you note even if he convinces Breyer getting anyone through Mitch McConnell will be difficult.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned....

One of the first headaches that Biden will have is that Stephen Breyer, a liberal supreme court justics is 82. He's even older than Biden! If he wants another liberal on the bench to replace him then Biden needs to think of a way he can persuade a (likely) Republican controlled Senate to allow his replacement.
Hey, now! It would be entirely improper to confirm a justice when there's an election coming up in just under four years! Just ask Mitch.
If, on the other hand, Clarence Thomas should croak or resign before Jan 2, it would be entirely correct for the lame-duck President and Senate confirm a replacement.
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One of the first headaches that Biden will have is that Stephen Breyer, a liberal supreme court justics is 82. He's even older than Biden! If he wants another liberal on the bench to replace him then Biden needs to think of a way he can persuade a (likely) Republican controlled Senate to allow his replacement.
Won't happen. Stuffing Supreme Court with rightwing judges regardless of will of people worked already more than once, why change it?

When I say "USA rots", I really, really mean it.
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A Biden appointment wouldn't be liberal anyway.

And he's also already said he's against increasing the number so he can add more, whether his additions would be liberal or not.

But he might go along with term limits, since that would sound all even & bothsidesy.
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A Biden appointment wouldn't be liberal anyway.

And he's also already said he's against increasing the number so he can add more, whether his additions would be liberal or not.

But he might go along with term limits, since that would sound all even & bothsidesy.
I thought that he did not commit to anything regarding the Supreme Court.

Anyway, for our purposes "liberal" only means something other than wanting to leave it up to states as to whether or not abortion or black people voting should be banned.
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Jesus Christ can the "Oh it doesn't make any difference because Biden is just... *gag* American liberal and not Nordic Socialist Utopia Progressive Liberal" people just... stop.

"Oh Lordy we'll just maybe just have a better chance at protecting Roe Vs Wade, protecting rights for transgender people, maybe stopping the global pandemic, and making getting back on track regarding climate change... yeah it's like nothing has changed at all."
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For one thing, rescind the decision to withdraw the US from the World Health Organization. And rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement.
I think those will be among the first things Biden does.
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I think those will be among the first things Biden does.
Joe Biden vows to rejoin the Paris climate deal on first day of office if elected
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I'm convinced that Biden needs to make democracy reforms a major priority of his Presidency. He has to use his bully pulpit to make the public understand how important this is.
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Jesus Christ can the "Oh it doesn't make any difference because Biden is just... *gag* American liberal and not Nordic Socialist Utopia Progressive Liberal" people just... stop.

"Oh Lordy we'll just maybe just have a better chance at protecting Roe Vs Wade, protecting rights for transgender people, maybe stopping the global pandemic, and making getting back on track regarding climate change... yeah it's like nothing has changed at all."
I have no idea who you are talking to.
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Still waiting to hear who owns Biden. Whose interests has he served?

Did he disavow the neocons Weapons of Mass Destruction, or vote along with them in the Senate?


How about Kamala, whose interests has she served in her time?
Why don't you tell us the answers? You seem to have all the answers.
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When I say "USA rots", I really, really mean it.
You know, I do take some issue with that. To say that something is rotting implies that it was fresh at some point.

What was the pinnacle from which America is now falling? The late 20th century, when the US government was busy overthrowing democracies around the world and installing friendly dictators, while the local populace was having race riots? Before then, when it was outright lynching, Jim Crow and internment camps? Before then, when we were one of the last civilized nations to give up slavery and had a war with ourselves to try to keep it anyway? Before then, when the nation was built on the blood of all the poor saps who were unlucky enough to already be living here at the time?

If you think the ugliness of the last few years is some kind of new development, you're wrong. But just because we've always been kind of a crappy nation doesn't mean it's not worth trying to be better.

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"I gave up the US first!"
"Oh please! I gave up on the US before you even thought of it!"
"Screw you! I gave up on the US while you were still a twinkle in your father's eye!"

This is certainly a reaction to getting rid of Trump I did not expect.
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Something like seventy million Americans saw what Trump has been doing and wanted it to continue. Even for true blue patriots, this should not be our proudest moment.
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Why does Johnstone say that Real Journalists Would Grill Biden On Yemen At Every Opportunity??
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Caitlin Johnstone is an excommie plant!! Next!!
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You see folks, it doesn't really matter who sits in the Executive when there is ruling class consensus on a specific agenda to protect interests of finance & corporate sector. We the people must have our agenda. We musk ask - Why is China a threat to us?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/a...GnEENBX8S_xCHI
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I do agree people should put pressure on Biden on Yemen.

Biden has a chance to carry the anti-Trump momentum to its furthest extent. I'm afraid he may not be aggressive enough for it. If he does a decent job with the weight he's carrying for the next four years he could be regarded as one of the greatest. I hope "unity" doesn't mean I'm gonna appoint a bunch of Republicans as Mitch McConnell tries to block me at every turn.

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Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy View Post
If you think the ugliness of the last few years is some kind of new development, you're wrong. But just because we've always been kind of a crappy nation doesn't mean it's not worth trying to be better.
I am talking about stability, not morality, though they certainly are related.

I do know that USA was always quite hypocritical, two-faced nation giving empty platitudes to ideals of democracy and freedom while supporting murderous dictatorships, some of them to today, like Saudi Arabia.

My phrase about rot refers to USA's system falling apart. That's relatively new thing.
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If Republicans and Trump continue with their effort to destroy the US election system, the first act of the Biden Administration might have to be to ban the GOP as a Terrorist Organization.
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This is going to be a difficult thread to keep lively after the first few months of Biden's tenure. Without Biden constantly tweeting, holding rallies and self-aggrandizing press conferences, and continuously inserting himself into the news cycle, actual things to talk about will be much farther between, and we'll have to pad the interim with jokes and references. The Total Landscape of the presidency will have changed.
Surely not in the off seasons?
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I do see a LOT of (potentially long) government shutdowns in the next few years. If I were a government employee or otherwise dependant on government funds I'd start to plan for that.
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Joe Biden speaking on the COVID-19 advisory board.

Rather refreshing to hear an adult speaking on the pandemic.
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Okay, one thing that Trump and his followers believe about much of the media and celebrity world is that they were all against him during his presidency.

They were, and with good reason. The guy was an *******. However, now that Trump has gone, I hope all the late night talking heads and CNN and MSNBC etc... are not going to be cheerleaders for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. It is really cringeworthy to see suck-ups.

Let's face it, they pretty much were suck-ups to Obama for about eight years, and I think that that behaviour is largely what led to the Trump backlash.

The news and the late night "comedians" need to be more savage to all politicians, not display obvious biases.
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Okay, one thing that Trump and his followers believe about much of the media and celebrity world is that they were all against him during his presidency.

They were, and with good reason. The guy was an *******. However, now that Trump has gone, I hope all the late night talking heads and CNN and MSNBC etc... are not going to be cheerleaders for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. It is really cringeworthy to see suck-ups.

Let's face it, they pretty much were suck-ups to Obama for about eight years, and I think that that behaviour is largely what led to the Trump backlash.

The news and the late night "comedians" need to be more savage to all politicians, not display obvious biases.
I've seen some poke fun at Biden, though obviously not as much as Trump. The trouble is, Trump won't leave and allow us to not miss him.
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I've seen some poke fun at Biden, though obviously not as much as Trump. The trouble is, Trump won't leave and allow us to not miss him.
Let's face it, Biden should be very easy to make fun of. When Reagan was president, he was constantly mocked for his apparent senility. I think it won't be hard to do the same for Biden. That said, I expect that such jokes will be met with a disapproving, "That's ageist!" by the majority of the media.
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