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Stacyhs · 7th December 2019, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Well then maybe the person posting the stupid seconds long twitter video on repeat should have posted the whole interview with them, rather than just the stupid question?

Agreed. The entire interview was more interesting. Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTYso3hmEA

Quote:

We don't even know if the women knew about Trump's quote on it.

No, we don't. But not to have known about it around the time it happened would have been nigh on impossible unless one had no TV, newspaper, or internet. It was played/reported on everywhere as it was such an outrageous thing to say.

cullennz · 7th December 2019, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Agreed. The entire interview was more interesting. Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTYso3hmEA

Cheers!

cullennz · 7th December 2019, 06:50 PM

BTW

I didn't know about it and every thread tends to turn into Trump on here.

Stacyhs · 7th December 2019, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger.

Which while semi relate-able as he is an utter misogynistic, bigoted, thick ********, it can be quite funny to watch the hand wringing with the slightest thing he says or does.

Especially when I think he will get back in again.

I plead guilty; I detest him unlike any other politician in my 6 decades. It's not an unknown 'something' which creates the intense feelings against him. It was during the primaries when I watched him reveal what a pig he is that I grew to dislike him intensely. His behavior repulsed me but that same behavior, sadly, attracted others.

Until he came down that escalator in 2015, I knew very little about him other than he was a rich NY real estate developer and had been married a few times. I didn't even know who Melania was.

Stacyhs · 7th December 2019, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

BTW

I didn't know about it and every thread tends to turn into Trump on here.

That's because you live in New Zealand. If you'd been here, you would have known about it. It happened just under 4 years ago. Here it is for you:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ny_voters.html

cullennz · 7th December 2019, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

That's because you live in New Zealand. If you'd been here, you would have known about it. It happened just under 4 years ago. Here it is for you:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ny_voters.html

True

And to be fair I have the luxury of pretty much the most detachment you can have to the dude and just observation.

Thinking about it, if we had a PM like him I would probably be the same.

angrysoba · 7th December 2019, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

You can't worry about their kind. They aren't like us. They aren't real Americans. Focus on the people you can bring back to America's side. The **** in your video will always be one of Trump's whores . That stupid **** deserves what she gets.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

This is no Rorschach question. This same woman was asked immediately before the "shoot someone" question "Is there anything he could do or anything that could happen that would make you not vote for him?" Her answer: No. She did not qualify it with an "It depends on why he did it." It was a flat out 'no'. She was demonstrating exactly what Trump was pointing out: it doesn't matter what he does, his base is loyal to him. It has nothing to do with shooting someone. He could have said anything and she would have found some way to justify her support of him.

What would persuade you to vote for Donald Trump?

Stacyhs · 7th December 2019, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

What would persuade you to vote for Donald Trump?

I considered it several years back when he first mentioned it. This was before I knew much about him other than he was a successful businessman (I didn't know about the bankruptcies). Like many, I wondered if we needed a businessman who wasn't a politician.

What would persuade me to vote for him now? Nothing. I know too much about him and have seen what his presidency is like. He'd have to transform into a completely different person, morally and politically, for me to vote for him. We know that isn't going to happen.

Cabbage · 7th December 2019, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger.

"Almost irrational"? No. It's a completely rational response.

Stacyhs · 7th December 2019, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cabbage

"Almost irrational"? No. It's a completely rational response.

Agreed. My intense dislike for him is based on his actions and behaviors which I find repulsive.

cullennz · 7th December 2019, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cabbage

"Almost irrational"?

Fair call

Should have gone with just irrational

Cabbage · 7th December 2019, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Fair call

Should have gone with just irrational

And make it even more wrong?

Hey man, if being as inaccurate as possible is your thing you might as well go for the gold amirite? LOL!

cullennz · 8th December 2019, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Cabbage

And make it even more wrong?

Hey man, if being as inaccurate as possible is your thing you might as well go for the gold amirite? LOL!

Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg.

You might want to remember this.

And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one

The Great Zaganza · 8th December 2019, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

If Trump was walking down 5th avenue and saw someone shooting little kids, ran in front of them and acted as a human shield, was shot 10 times before the gunman was subdued, and miraculously survived only after the hospital forced him to stop personally ferrying the injured little kids by hand to the hospital....

Would you vote for him?

geez - of course not.
A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view.

a_unique_person · 8th December 2019, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

geez - of course not.
A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view.

I like my heroes not full of bullet holes.

Cabbage · 8th December 2019, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg.

You might want to remember this.

I do remember this. You might want to remember that some people are such scum they deserve the hatred they receive.

Quote:

And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one

What the hell are you even talking about??? Between the two of us you are the only one bringing up kids.

The Great Zaganza · 8th December 2019, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

I like my heroes not full of bullet holes.

I don't want the President to be a Hero either.

cullennz · 8th December 2019, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

geez - of course not.
A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view.

A man who just shot someone for no reason would obviously go to prison and not be running for Prez

Unless the the Dems were so **** they let him get off killing someone in cold blood, yet still run for prez.

Why would they do this?

cullennz · 8th December 2019, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Cabbage

I do remember this. You might want to remember that some people are such scum they deserve the hatred they receive.

What the hell are you even talking about??? Between the two of us you are the only one bringing up kids.

The crap about duke or baron or what ever the kids name is

Cabbage · 8th December 2019, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

The crap about duke or baron or what ever the kids name is

I know, it wasn't me, so don't go preaching at me like it was me. Could you at least try to stay on topic?

The Great Zaganza · 8th December 2019, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

A man who just shot someone for no reason would obviously go to prison and not be running for Prez

Unless the the Dems were so **** they let him get off killing someone in cold blood, yet still run for prez.

Why would they do this?

According to the Trump WH, investigators wouldn't be allowed to investigate whether the Prez killed in cold blood and defiled the corpse or heroically saved the entire US from a Terrorist in pure self-defense.
They would have to take his word for it.

Porpoise of Life · 8th December 2019, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one

I wouldn't exactly call Eric hot, but to each their own...

ChristianProgressive · 8th December 2019, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger.

Which while semi relate-able as he is an utter misogynistic, bigoted, thick ********, it can be quite funny to watch the hand wringing with the slightest thing he says or does.

Especially when I think he will get back in again.

Then expect blood in the streets. America will not survive another term of Traitor Trump's regime in any recognizable form.

It is not irrational in any way to hate this evil tyrant or his enablers.

Stacyhs · 8th December 2019, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg.

And to hear him tell it, he's not only just a person, but a 'very stable genius' person who knows more about how to fight a war than the generals, has one of the greatest memories in history, and has accomplished more than any other president in the history of the US. He's not just a person; he's SuperPerson!

7th December 2019, 07:16 PM	#47
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,309	Originally Posted by Craig4 You can't worry about their kind. They aren't like us. They aren't real Americans. Focus on the people you can bring back to America's side. The ** in your video will always be one of Trump's whores . That stupid deserves what she gets. Originally Posted by Stacyhs** This is no Rorschach question. This same woman was asked immediately before the "shoot someone" question "Is there anything he could do or anything that could happen that would make you not vote for him?" Her answer: No. She did not qualify it with an "It depends on why he did it." It was a flat out 'no'. She was demonstrating exactly what Trump was pointing out: it doesn't matter what he does, his base is loyal to him. It has nothing to do with shooting someone. He could have said anything and she would have found some way to justify her support of him. What would persuade you to vote for Donald Trump?
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7th December 2019, 08:55 PM	#49
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by cullennz There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger. "Almost irrational"? No. It's a completely rational response.
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7th December 2019, 11:57 PM	#52
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by cullennz Fair call Should have gone with just irrational And make it even more wrong? Hey man, if being as inaccurate as possible is your thing you might as well go for the gold amirite? LOL!
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8th December 2019, 01:29 AM	#54
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,622	Originally Posted by cullennz If Trump was walking down 5th avenue and saw someone shooting little kids, ran in front of them and acted as a human shield, was shot 10 times before the gunman was subdued, and miraculously survived only after the hospital forced him to stop personally ferrying the injured little kids by hand to the hospital.... Would you vote for him? geez - of course not. A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view.
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8th December 2019, 01:40 AM	#55
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 43,039	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza geez - of course not. A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view. I like my heroes not full of bullet holes.
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7th December 2019, 06:47 PM	#41
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by cullennz Well then maybe the person posting the stupid seconds long twitter video on repeat should have posted the whole interview with them, rather than just the stupid question? Agreed. The entire interview was more interesting. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTYso3hmEA Quote: We don't even know if the women knew about Trump's quote on it. No, we don't. But not to have known about it around the time it happened would have been nigh on impossible unless one had no TV, newspaper, or internet. It was played/reported on everywhere as it was such an outrageous thing to say.

7th December 2019, 06:49 PM	#42
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Agreed. The entire interview was more interesting. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTYso3hmEA Cheers!

7th December 2019, 06:50 PM	#43
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	BTW I didn't know about it and every thread tends to turn into Trump on here.

7th December 2019, 06:55 PM	#44
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by cullennz There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger. Which while semi relate-able as he is an utter misogynistic, bigoted, thick ********, it can be quite funny to watch the hand wringing with the slightest thing he says or does. Especially when I think he will get back in again. I plead guilty; I detest him unlike any other politician in my 6 decades. It's not an unknown 'something' which creates the intense feelings against him. It was during the primaries when I watched him reveal what a pig he is that I grew to dislike him intensely. His behavior repulsed me but that same behavior, sadly, attracted others. Until he came down that escalator in 2015, I knew very little about him other than he was a rich NY real estate developer and had been married a few times. I didn't even know who Melania was.

7th December 2019, 06:58 PM	#45
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by cullennz BTW I didn't know about it and every thread tends to turn into Trump on here. That's because you live in New Zealand. If you'd been here, you would have known about it. It happened just under 4 years ago. Here it is for you: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ny_voters.html

7th December 2019, 07:13 PM	#46
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by Stacyhs That's because you live in New Zealand. If you'd been here, you would have known about it. It happened just under 4 years ago. Here it is for you: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ny_voters.html True And to be fair I have the luxury of pretty much the most detachment you can have to the dude and just observation. Thinking about it, if we had a PM like him I would probably be the same.

7th December 2019, 07:29 PM	#48
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by angrysoba What would persuade you to vote for Donald Trump? I considered it several years back when he first mentioned it. This was before I knew much about him other than he was a successful businessman (I didn't know about the bankruptcies). Like many, I wondered if we needed a businessman who wasn't a politician. What would persuade me to vote for him now? Nothing. I know too much about him and have seen what his presidency is like. He'd have to transform into a completely different person, morally and politically, for me to vote for him. We know that isn't going to happen.

7th December 2019, 09:18 PM	#50
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by Cabbage "Almost irrational"? No. It's a completely rational response. Agreed. My intense dislike for him is based on his actions and behaviors which I find repulsive.

7th December 2019, 09:21 PM	#51
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by Cabbage "Almost irrational"? Fair call Should have gone with just irrational

8th December 2019, 01:14 AM	#53
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by Cabbage And make it even more wrong? Hey man, if being as inaccurate as possible is your thing you might as well go for the gold amirite? LOL! Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg. You might want to remember this. And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one

8th December 2019, 01:54 AM	#56
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by cullennz Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg. You might want to remember this. I do remember this. You might want to remember that some people are such scum they deserve the hatred they receive. Quote: And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one What the hell are you even talking about??? Between the two of us you are the only one bringing up kids.
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598

8th December 2019, 02:37 AM	#57
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,622	Originally Posted by a_unique_person I like my heroes not full of bullet holes. I don't want the President to be a Hero either.
	__________________ So what are you going to do about it, huh? What would an intellectual do? What would Plato do?

8th December 2019, 03:23 AM	#58
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza geez - of course not. A man riddled with bullets is hardly fit to run the country from a purely medical point of view. A man who just shot someone for no reason would obviously go to prison and not be running for Prez Unless the the Dems were so **** they let him get off killing someone in cold blood, yet still run for prez. Why would they do this?

8th December 2019, 03:26 AM	#59
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,832	Originally Posted by Cabbage I do remember this. You might want to remember that some people are such scum they deserve the hatred they receive. What the hell are you even talking about??? Between the two of us you are the only one bringing up kids. The crap about duke or baron or what ever the kids name is

8th December 2019, 03:38 AM	#60
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by cullennz The crap about duke or baron or what ever the kids name is I know, it wasn't me, so don't go preaching at me like it was me. Could you at least try to stay on topic?
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8th December 2019, 03:42 AM	#61
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,622	Originally Posted by cullennz A man who just shot someone for no reason would obviously go to prison and not be running for Prez Unless the the Dems were so **** they let him get off killing someone in cold blood, yet still run for prez. Why would they do this? According to the Trump WH, investigators wouldn't be allowed to investigate whether the Prez killed in cold blood and defiled the corpse or heroically saved the entire US from a Terrorist in pure self-defense. They would have to take his word for it.
	__________________ So what are you going to do about it, huh? What would an intellectual do? What would Plato do?

8th December 2019, 04:09 AM	#62
Porpoise of Life Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,950	Originally Posted by cullennz And while at it, maybe try to keep to the rule you don't bring his kids into it, who have nothing to do with it....Apart from the hot blond older one I wouldn't exactly call Eric hot, but to each their own...

8th December 2019, 04:19 AM	#63
ChristianProgressive Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,828	Originally Posted by cullennz There is also something about him that induces a cult like, almost irrational hatred of him, which is even larger. Which while semi relate-able as he is an utter misogynistic, bigoted, thick ********, it can be quite funny to watch the hand wringing with the slightest thing he says or does. Especially when I think he will get back in again. Then expect blood in the streets. America will not survive another term of Traitor Trump's regime in any recognizable form. It is not irrational in any way to hate this evil tyrant or his enablers.
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8th December 2019, 02:25 PM	#64
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,984	Originally Posted by cullennz Trump is a person and not a Dalek or a Borg. And to hear him tell it, he's not only just a person, but a 'very stable genius' person who knows more about how to fight a war than the generals, has one of the greatest memories in history, and has accomplished more than any other president in the history of the US. He's not just a person; he's SuperPerson!