Trump's Little Stormtroopers.... - Page 2

Oystein · 26th October 2016, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part.

What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I saw a CNN video on YouTube. Also reported by the Washington Post.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RosieGray...85264282271744

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...a-trump-rally/

Okay I was wondering if it was just one guy, did the black man with him know these hateful german words were being used? Lol what a pathetic thread!

Oh and WaPo only has a few select readers and I've used up all my free readings.

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?

It looks like 16%

Oystein · 26th October 2016, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Okay I was wondering if it was just one guy, did the black man with him know these hateful german words were being used? Lol what a pathetic thread!

Oh, there is a quota man of color, how surprising!
I am sure the women holding signs "Women for Trump" are likewise proof that women are flocking towards the women-respector Donald.
Haha.
This is a rally actually, the organizers understand that solid majorities women and blacks are NOT actually voting Trump, that's why they need to pretend otherwise.

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Oh, there is a quota man of color, how surprising!
I am sure the women holding signs "Women for Trump" are likewise proof that women are flocking towards the women-respector Donald.
Haha.
This is a rally actually, the organizers understand that solid majorities women and blacks are NOT actually voting Trump, that's why they need to pretend otherwise.

Actually its very hard to say they are quota people since Trump seems to bring in thousands. Now at hillarys rally's you probably could count those kinds of numbers as quotas, might equal to maybe 50 white men, all raised by their mothers.

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

acbytesla · 26th October 2016, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part.

Yea, 2 percent is smaller than Trump's hands. But I've seen polls showing Trump between 0 and 5 with a 3 percent margin of error.Trump likes to point at the size of his rallies, but people of color are close to non-existent at them. But, that like the size of his rallies may not have a correlation to votes on election day. I'd be surprised if Trump garners more than 5 percent of the African American vote.

NoahFence · 26th October 2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part.

You said the largest percentage since the 60s.

So yes. You did say that.

acbytesla · 26th October 2016, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by logger

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off.

snoop_doxie · 26th October 2016, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Actually its very hard to say they are quota people since Trump seems to bring in thousands. Now at hillarys rally's you probably could count those kinds of numbers as quotas, might equal to maybe 50 white men, all raised by their mothers.

What does the hilited part mean?

Was Trump raised by his mother?

I am missing what you are whistling at here.

dudalb · 26th October 2016, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off.

The Rasmussen poll is a joke.

Oystein · 26th October 2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by logger

It looks like 16%

~~Where did you look?~~

ETA: Never mind, posted too late, already answered

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off.

Funny, no poll is correct every election.

logger · 26th October 2016, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Where did you look?

Post 46

logger · 26th October 2016, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The Rasmussen poll is a joke.

Yeah perhaps, so isn't the ABCNBCUSATODAYAPCNN

acbytesla · 26th October 2016, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Funny, no poll is correct every election.

But some manage to be wrong.

phiwum · 26th October 2016, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by logger

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

Compare:

Originally Posted by logger

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.

Originally Posted by thegatewaypundit

TRUMP on Track to Win More Black Votes Than Any GOP Candidate Since 1960

You implied that Trump would get a higher percentage of black votes than Obama did. The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so.

logger · 26th October 2016, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by phiwum

Compare:

You implied that Trump would get a higher percentage of black votes than Obama did. The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so.

Phiwum I can only assume you Would realize I meant on the republican side

If you assumed I meant more than Obama, a bit of critical thought would tell you that couldn't possibly correct, then you would have realized I meant republicans, mkay

logger · 26th October 2016, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

But some manage to be wrong.

All manage to be wrong.

You're pinning your hopes here, I'm concerned you haven't left some emotional room here for his victory, long shot, sure, but anything is possible. You need to prepare yourself!!!

Stacko · 26th October 2016, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by phiwum

The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so.

He's worked hard to earn the title of Stupidest Man on the Internet. You know things are bleak for Donald when Rasmussen polls and Jim Hoft are being treated credibly.

acbytesla · 26th October 2016, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by logger

All manage to be wrong.

You're pinning your hopes here, I'm concerned you haven't left some emotional room here for his victory, long shot, sure, but anything is possible. You need to prepare yourself!!!

LOL, Right. I'm pinning my hopes.:

What to believe? The majority of the scientific polls or the outlier that is notorious for overestimating GOP chances? This is Trump, we're talking about. The most racially offensive Presidential candidate since George Wallace in 68

Logic tells me he is going to get crushed in the minority vote. I just worry about turnout.

Tony Stark · 26th October 2016, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by logger

It looks like 16%

LOL

phiwum · 26th October 2016, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Phiwum I can only assume you Would realize I meant on the republican side

If you assumed I meant more than Obama, a bit of critical thought would tell you that couldn't possibly correct, then you would have realized I meant republicans, mkay

Fine. Not what you wrote, nor clear from context, but we all get sloppy at times.

We'll see if he gets a higher percentage of black votes than any Republican candidate since 1960. I think the odds are extraordinarily slim.

Oystein · 26th October 2016, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by logger

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

The data for past elections in that article comes from this Gallup piece:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/139880/el...te-groups.aspx

You'll note that, from 2000 on, they differentiate the non-white vote: Non-white (excluding hispanics); non-white (including hispanics); black.
Every year, the black Republican vote is far lower than the non-white total:
2000: 3% black / 9% non-white
2004: 7% / 17%
2008: 1% / 10%
2012: 5% / 11%

1996 and earlier, the numbers merely differentiate white vs. non-white, without specifying the black vote. Non-white Republican percentages are:
1996: 12%
1992: 11%
1988: 18%
1984: 13%
1980: 10%
1976: 15%
1972: 13%
1968: 12%
1964: 6%
1960: 32%
1956: 39%
1952: 21%

Do you see that sudden drop between 1960 and 1964? Perhaps something happened in that time frame? Such as, perhaps, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 24th Amendment, which both served to enable blacks to vote in the first place?

When you compare your prediction of what Trump may get from blacks with what Nixon got, you are comparing oranges with English fruits.

You might actually predict that Trump wil get the best share of the black vote EVER

Now I can't get to the Rasmussen original data, but find that their around 16% are an outlier. CBS had a poll last week that saw the black Trump vote at 4%. The latest UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll has 7%. Even Breitbart sees only 11%! In Georgia, the AJC finds only 3%.

So good look with your prediction. If it makes you happy till election day, more power to you!

logger · 26th October 2016, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

He's worked hard to earn the title of Stupidest Man on the Internet. You know things are bleak for Donald when Rasmussen polls and Jim Hoft are being treated credibly.

No one beats biden, his groping of women might earn him another title.

logger · 26th October 2016, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

LOL, Right. I'm pinning my hopes.:

What to believe? The majority of the scientific polls or the outlier that is notorious for overestimating GOP chances? This is Trump, we're talking about. The most racially offensive Presidential candidate since George Wallace in 68

Logic tells me he is going to get crushed in the minority vote. I just worry about turnout.

Why?

332nd · 26th October 2016, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by logger

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

Oh that? Do you have a link to the actual poll?

Tony Stark · 26th October 2016, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by 332nd

Oh that? Do you have a link to the actual poll?

Rasmussen doesn't release the demographic breakdown of its polls. Unless you give them money.

But they are a total garbage pollster.

Frank Newgent · 26th October 2016, 06:40 PM

Think maybe Stanley Kubrick is running this election?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...olls-for-trump

acbytesla · 26th October 2016, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Why?

I always worry about turnout. It's the nature of the beast. If people think it's going to be a blowout they may not show thinking their vote doesn't matter. I'm somewhat comforted by Clinton's organizational advantage. Early and vote by mail helps with the turnout.

It ain't over till its over so take heart. Keep in mind that there will be another election in only 4 years.

quadraginta · 26th October 2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by logger

<snip>

Oh and WaPo only has a few select readers and I've used up all my free readings.

That's easy enough to go around. But I'm sure someone of your many expert qualifications already knows that.

Spindrift · 26th October 2016, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part.

Yeah you did.

Originally Posted by logger

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.

How else would Trump carry the largest % if he doesn't get most?

NoahFence · 26th October 2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by logger

It looks like 16%

If he gets more than 5, I'll paint my hair yellow.

quadraginta · 26th October 2016, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?

Originally Posted by logger

I hate to ruin your dinner.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/

That's someone else's opinion.

You didn't answer the question.

What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?

Skeptic Ginger · 26th October 2016, 07:10 PM

PA GOP files lawsuit over election day poll watchers

GOP? What? Is that a typo?

Nope:

Quote:

The Pennsylvania Republican party has filed a lawsuit asserting that their Election Day poll watchers have Constitutional rights under the First and 14th amendments to watch polls anywhere.

GOP lawsuit challenges 1937 law on poll watcher rules; Dems: 'Publicity stunt'

The problem is, they are responding to this: Democrats: RNC violating anti-voter intimidation agreement

Quote:

Democrats are asking a federal judge to block the Republican National Committee from coordinating with Donald Trump’s campaign on “ballot security” efforts, saying the RNC is violating a decades old legal agreement that bars the group from tactics that critics call voter intimidation.
In a motion filed in New Jersey federal court on Wednesday, the Democratic National Committee charges that the RNC has violated the consent decree “by supporting and enabling the efforts of the Republican candidate for President, Donald J. Trump, as well as his campaign and advisors, to intimidate and discourage minority voters from voting in the 2016 Presidential Election.”
Story Continued Below
The alleged coordination, the DNC says, is a violation of a 1982 consent decree in which the RNC agreed to curb its vote watching tactics — the result of a suit Democrats filed against the RNC for allegedly intimidating minority voters at the polls during New Jersey’s 1981 gubernatorial election.

So what happened in 1982 that led to the consent decree? Voter intimidation at the polls from Republicans sporting 'official poll watcher' badges in minority heavy districts.

Foolmewunz · 26th October 2016, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Yeah you did.

How else would Trump carry the largest % if he doesn't get most?

He means "the largest Republican % since the 60s". He would be wrong, of course. Rasmussen does their polls in base eight (according to Tom Lehrer, that's just like base ten, only if you're missing two fingers), I think. They don't show their data. Further, they haven't actually mentioned a figure for Trump support among blacks.

The 16% figure could be accurate for the demographic "Blacks not voting for Hillary". She'll get about 84/85%. Trump will get 7/9. Johnson/Stein/Vermin Supreme will split the remaining 7/8%.

trustbutverify · 26th October 2016, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by uke2se

Jesus...

I wonder how many of them do this knowingly. Things are getting increasingly scary.

All of them. They've just been waiting for the right time. This is going to get a lot uglier.

Ladewig · 26th October 2016, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by logger

Lol

Another bs article from the left holding onto their playbook of racism. I wonder if there are just as many racist blacks, latinos, jews and Europeans? If Trump says we have to close our borders because its out of control and a bunch of racists agree with it, somehow the party of Lincoln is now racist. That is some contorted thought that is rife with typical liberal EMOTIONALISM.

Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary.

Not liking Clinton to the point of refusing to vote for her does not necessarily mean that they like Trump enough to vote for him. They might dislike both candidates and vote for neither.

In any case, I am sure this thread will contain a great deal of mocking on the day after the election. I'll be sure to come back to find out which side will be doling out the I-told-you-so's.

fuelair · 26th October 2016, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Yea, 2 percent is smaller than Trump's hands. But I've seen polls showing Trump between 0 and 5 with a 3 percent margin of error.Trump likes to point at the size of his rallies, but people of color are close to non-existent at them. But, that like the size of his rallies may not have a correlation to votes on election day. I'd be surprised if Trump garners more than 5 percent of the African American vote.

The embiggened is, I assume his very small nuts or, worse, like Goebbels he has no balls.

fuelair · 26th October 2016, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by uke2se

Jesus...

I wonder how many of them do this knowingly. Things are getting increasingly scary.

It was more answered in later posts!!!!!

26th October 2016, 04:21 PM	#41
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,001	Originally Posted by logger Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part. What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?
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26th October 2016, 04:23 PM	#42
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by acbytesla I saw a CNN video on YouTube. Also reported by the Washington Post. https://mobile.twitter.com/RosieGray...85264282271744 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...a-trump-rally/ Okay I was wondering if it was just one guy, did the black man with him know these hateful german words were being used? Lol what a pathetic thread! Oh and WaPo only has a few select readers and I've used up all my free readings.
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26th October 2016, 04:24 PM	#43
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by Oystein What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion? It looks like 16%
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26th October 2016, 04:27 PM	#44
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,001	Originally Posted by logger Okay I was wondering if it was just one guy, did the black man with him know these hateful german words were being used? Lol what a pathetic thread! Oh, there is a quota man of color, how surprising! I am sure the women holding signs "Women for Trump" are likewise proof that women are flocking towards the women-respector Donald. Haha. This is a rally actually, the organizers understand that solid majorities women and blacks are NOT actually voting Trump, that's why they need to pretend otherwise.
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26th October 2016, 04:31 PM	#45
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by Oystein Oh, there is a quota man of color, how surprising! I am sure the women holding signs "Women for Trump" are likewise proof that women are flocking towards the women-respector Donald. Haha. This is a rally actually, the organizers understand that solid majorities women and blacks are NOT actually voting Trump, that's why they need to pretend otherwise. Actually its very hard to say they are quota people since Trump seems to bring in thousands. Now at hillarys rally's you probably could count those kinds of numbers as quotas, might equal to maybe 50 white men, all raised by their mothers.
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26th October 2016, 04:32 PM	#46
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by Oystein What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion? I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/
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26th October 2016, 04:34 PM	#47
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,323	Originally Posted by logger Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part. Yea, 2 percent is smaller than Trump's hands. But I've seen polls showing Trump between 0 and 5 with a 3 percent margin of error.Trump likes to point at the size of his rallies, but people of color are close to non-existent at them. But, that like the size of his rallies may not have a correlation to votes on election day. I'd be surprised if Trump garners more than 5 percent of the African American vote.
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26th October 2016, 04:37 PM	#48
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Originally Posted by logger Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part. You said the largest percentage since the 60s. So yes. You did say that.

26th October 2016, 04:39 PM	#49
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,323	Originally Posted by logger I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/ The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off.
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26th October 2016, 04:42 PM	#50
snoop_doxie Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In my reality tunnel Posts: 1,484	Originally Posted by logger Actually its very hard to say they are quota people since Trump seems to bring in thousands. Now at hillarys rally's you probably could count those kinds of numbers as quotas, might equal to maybe 50 white men, all raised by their mothers. What does the hilited part mean? Was Trump raised by his mother? I am missing what you are whistling at here.
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26th October 2016, 04:53 PM	#51
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by acbytesla The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off. The Rasmussen poll is a joke.
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26th October 2016, 04:56 PM	#52
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,001	Originally Posted by logger It looks like 16% ~~Where did you look?~~ ETA: Never mind, posted too late, already answered
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26th October 2016, 04:58 PM	#53
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by acbytesla The Rasmussen poll. Funny. Every election, it's way off. Funny, no poll is correct every election.
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26th October 2016, 04:59 PM	#54
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by Oystein Where did you look? Post 46
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26th October 2016, 05:01 PM	#55
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by dudalb The Rasmussen poll is a joke. Yeah perhaps, so isn't the ABCNBCUSATODAYAPCNN
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26th October 2016, 05:16 PM	#56
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,323	Originally Posted by logger Funny, no poll is correct every election. But some manage to be wrong.
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26th October 2016, 05:29 PM	#57
phiwum Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,720	Originally Posted by logger I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/ Compare: Originally Posted by logger Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary. Originally Posted by thegatewaypundit TRUMP on Track to Win More Black Votes Than Any GOP Candidate Since 1960 You implied that Trump would get a higher percentage of black votes than Obama did. The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so.

26th October 2016, 05:36 PM	#58
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by phiwum Compare: You implied that Trump would get a higher percentage of black votes than Obama did. The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so. Phiwum I can only assume you Would realize I meant on the republican side If you assumed I meant more than Obama, a bit of critical thought would tell you that couldn't possibly correct, then you would have realized I meant republicans, mkay
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26th October 2016, 05:38 PM	#59
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by acbytesla But some manage to be wrong. All manage to be wrong. You're pinning your hopes here, I'm concerned you haven't left some emotional room here for his victory, long shot, sure, but anything is possible. You need to prepare yourself!!!
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26th October 2016, 05:50 PM	#60
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by phiwum The Jim Hoft article merely (and implausibly) claims that he will get more than 25% or so. He's worked hard to earn the title of Stupidest Man on the Internet. You know things are bleak for Donald when Rasmussen polls and Jim Hoft are being treated credibly.

26th October 2016, 05:52 PM	#61
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,323	Originally Posted by logger All manage to be wrong. You're pinning your hopes here, I'm concerned you haven't left some emotional room here for his victory, long shot, sure, but anything is possible. You need to prepare yourself!!! LOL, Right. I'm pinning my hopes.: What to believe? The majority of the scientific polls or the outlier that is notorious for overestimating GOP chances? This is Trump, we're talking about. The most racially offensive Presidential candidate since George Wallace in 68 Logic tells me he is going to get crushed in the minority vote. I just worry about turnout.
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26th October 2016, 05:56 PM	#62
Tony Stark Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 9,626	Originally Posted by logger It looks like 16% LOL
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26th October 2016, 05:58 PM	#63
phiwum Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,720	Originally Posted by logger Phiwum I can only assume you Would realize I meant on the republican side If you assumed I meant more than Obama, a bit of critical thought would tell you that couldn't possibly correct, then you would have realized I meant republicans, mkay Fine. Not what you wrote, nor clear from context, but we all get sloppy at times. We'll see if he gets a higher percentage of black votes than any Republican candidate since 1960. I think the odds are extraordinarily slim.

26th October 2016, 06:16 PM	#64
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,001	Originally Posted by logger I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/ The data for past elections in that article comes from this Gallup piece: http://www.gallup.com/poll/139880/el...te-groups.aspx You'll note that, from 2000 on, they differentiate the non-white vote: Non-white (excluding hispanics); non-white (including hispanics); black. Every year, the black Republican vote is far lower than the non-white total: 2000: 3% black / 9% non-white 2004: 7% / 17% 2008: 1% / 10% 2012: 5% / 11% 1996 and earlier, the numbers merely differentiate white vs. non-white, without specifying the black vote. Non-white Republican percentages are: 1996: 12% 1992: 11% 1988: 18% 1984: 13% 1980: 10% 1976: 15% 1972: 13% 1968: 12% 1964: 6% 1960: 32% 1956: 39% 1952: 21% Do you see that sudden drop between 1960 and 1964? Perhaps something happened in that time frame? Such as, perhaps, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 24th Amendment, which both served to enable blacks to vote in the first place? When you compare your prediction of what Trump may get from blacks with what Nixon got, you are comparing oranges with English fruits. You might actually predict that Trump wil get the best share of the black vote EVER Now I can't get to the Rasmussen original data, but find that their around 16% are an outlier. CBS had a poll last week that saw the black Trump vote at 4%. The latest UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll has 7%. Even Breitbart sees only 11%! In Georgia, the AJC finds only 3%. So good look with your prediction. If it makes you happy till election day, more power to you!
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26th October 2016, 06:23 PM	#65
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Philippines: This Will End Well Originally Posted by Stacko He's worked hard to earn the title of Stupidest Man on the Internet. You know things are bleak for Donald when Rasmussen polls and Jim Hoft are being treated credibly. No one beats biden, his groping of women might earn him another title.
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26th October 2016, 06:24 PM	#66
logger Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,145	Originally Posted by acbytesla LOL, Right. I'm pinning my hopes.: What to believe? The majority of the scientific polls or the outlier that is notorious for overestimating GOP chances? This is Trump, we're talking about. The most racially offensive Presidential candidate since George Wallace in 68 Logic tells me he is going to get crushed in the minority vote. I just worry about turnout. Why?
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26th October 2016, 06:29 PM	#67
332nd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,278	Originally Posted by logger I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/ Oh that? Do you have a link to the actual poll?
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26th October 2016, 06:31 PM	#68
Tony Stark Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 9,626	Originally Posted by 332nd Oh that? Do you have a link to the actual poll? Rasmussen doesn't release the demographic breakdown of its polls. Unless you give them money. But they are a total garbage pollster.
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26th October 2016, 06:40 PM	#69
Frank Newgent Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,800	Think maybe Stanley Kubrick is running this election? http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...olls-for-trump
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26th October 2016, 06:43 PM	#70
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,323	Originally Posted by logger Why? I always worry about turnout. It's the nature of the beast. If people think it's going to be a blowout they may not show thinking their vote doesn't matter. I'm somewhat comforted by Clinton's organizational advantage. Early and vote by mail helps with the turnout. It ain't over till its over so take heart. Keep in mind that there will be another election in only 4 years.
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26th October 2016, 06:52 PM	#71
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,177	Originally Posted by logger <snip> Oh and WaPo only has a few select readers and I've used up all my free readings. That's easy enough to go around. But I'm sure someone of your many expert qualifications already knows that.
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26th October 2016, 06:53 PM	#72
Spindrift Time Person of the Year, 2006 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 19,246	Originally Posted by logger Did I say most of it? 2% seems like wishful thinking on your part. Yeah you did. Originally Posted by logger Trump will carry the largest % of black votes since the sixties, why, because they don't like hillary. How else would Trump carry the largest % if he doesn't get most?
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26th October 2016, 06:58 PM	#73
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Originally Posted by logger It looks like 16% If he gets more than 5, I'll paint my hair yellow.

26th October 2016, 07:00 PM	#74
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,177	Originally Posted by Oystein What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion? Originally Posted by logger I hate to ruin your dinner. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...te-since-1960/ That's someone else's opinion. You didn't answer the question. What percentage of the black vote will Trump pick up, in your opinion?
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26th October 2016, 07:10 PM	#75
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	PA GOP files lawsuit over election day poll watchers GOP? What? Is that a typo? Nope: Quote: The Pennsylvania Republican party has filed a lawsuit asserting that their Election Day poll watchers have Constitutional rights under the First and 14th amendments to watch polls anywhere. GOP lawsuit challenges 1937 law on poll watcher rules; Dems: 'Publicity stunt' The problem is, they are responding to this: Democrats: RNC violating anti-voter intimidation agreement Quote: Democrats are asking a federal judge to block the Republican National Committee from coordinating with Donald Trump’s campaign on “ballot security” efforts, saying the RNC is violating a decades old legal agreement that bars the group from tactics that critics call voter intimidation. In a motion filed in New Jersey federal court on Wednesday, the Democratic National Committee charges that the RNC has violated the consent decree “by supporting and enabling the efforts of the Republican candidate for President, Donald J. Trump, as well as his campaign and advisors, to intimidate and discourage minority voters from voting in the 2016 Presidential Election.” Story Continued Below The alleged coordination, the DNC says, is a violation of a 1982 consent decree in which the RNC agreed to curb its vote watching tactics — the result of a suit Democrats filed against the RNC for allegedly intimidating minority voters at the polls during New Jersey’s 1981 gubernatorial election. So what happened in 1982 that led to the consent decree? Voter intimidation at the polls from Republicans sporting 'official poll watcher' badges in minority heavy districts.