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Old 27th October 2016, 12:18 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by Jrrarglblarg View Post
I would be just as pissed if you called me a conservative, because I support private gun ownership and a few other "anti-lib" positions.

Labels are tools for ignorant people to avoid thinking.
Says the one who can't stand labels. Labels are tools for people to show their core values, many would like to hide from what they are.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:21 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Says the one who can't stand labels. Labels are tools for people to show their core values, many would like to hide from what they are.
Were you raised by your mother?

What label do you give to those raised by their mothers?
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:23 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
Were you raised by your mother?

What label do you give to those raised by their mothers?
logger seems to be triggered by certain labels. Like fascist. He should accept the label for what he is.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:23 PM   #124
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If a one word label can summarize your core values, I'm very sorry. Most of us get at least a bit of nuance and independent thought out of our education.

But that explains so much. Enjoy your label.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:26 PM   #125
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I consider myself a true conservative, I am for minimal government. Trump is not a conservative, in my opinion. He is an opportunistic demagogue, a populist. I will vote for Gary Johnson, because I don't want a proto dictator as leader of my country. I would not be sad to see Trump lose to Clinton, who I could not vote for. Some true conservatives are also social conservatives or hawks, and would not vote for Johnson. Clinton as a Hawk and anti full pot legalization could get their vote.

Trump is a real Rino.
But you aren't voting for Clinton directly.

By you saying you would not be sad to see him lose to her is suspect. Everything she stands for goes against your supposed beliefs. If you mean that her election will somehow wake the country up, that might be true with Obama not her. Think of this, for the first time in your lifetime we will have a leftist court, once that happens it is truly over. Your conservatism will not have a chance once the left gets control of the court. They can completely remake this country and legislators will be able to do nothing.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:27 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Jrrarglblarg View Post
If a one word label can summarize your core values, I'm very sorry. Most of us get at least a bit of nuance and independent thought out of our education.

But that explains so much. Enjoy your label.
It explains much about you too.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:27 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
What does the hilited part mean?

Was Trump raised by his mother?

I am missing what you are whistling at here.
It's a dog whistle for people of whom the poster feels disdain...
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:29 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Phiwum I can only assume you Would realize I meant on the republican side

If you assumed I meant more than Obama, a bit of critical thought would tell you that couldn't possibly correct, then you would have realized I meant republicans, mkay
...TY for your retractions, and your "explanation".
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:30 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by Slowvehicle View Post
It's a dog whistle for people of whom the poster feels disdain...
Which consists of everyone who does not think exactly as he does.

Hate is hate.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:31 PM   #130
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It's a dog whistle for people of whom the poster feels disdain...
Lol

Wouldn't it be nice if we could ask the questions we would like to?
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No one beats biden, his groping of women might earn him another title.
...evidence?
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:32 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by Shalamar View Post
Which consists of everyone who does not think exactly as he does.

Hate is hate.
Which would be most here, and I don't hate you, someone in deep denial doesn't deserve hate.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:33 PM   #133
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It explains much about you too.
Yes, it does: I'm overeducated for the venue.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:36 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Which would be most here, and I don't hate you, someone in deep denial doesn't deserve hate.
'lol' Denial about what? You know nothing about me. You do not know who I am, what I am. You are an angry ball of hate. You hate those that don't think like you. You hate those who call 'leftists', which you use as an insult against everyone.

I pity you.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:37 PM   #135
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Why are you concerned about the minorities not turning out?
See? This is why assuming what a poster "really meant" is a mug's game. You added a concept to the poster's words.

In context, it certainly makes you appear dishonest...

I'm willing to grant you it was a typo.
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:37 PM   #136
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You do understand that people calling themselves conservative aren't always conservative?
Sure, that's always the possibility. In fact, I would argue that the so called conservative movement never has been conservative. The problem with this argument is like the question, "who is a Christian"? Who defines that? You?

Here is what conservative Charles Fried, former Solicitor General under Reagan said about his voting for Hillary. Its not enough to simply not support Trump, It is imperative that this man not be allowed to get anywhere near the levers of power. He must be defeated, and the only way to do that is by supporting Hillary Clinton.
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I don't need any newspaper bedding.
Inorite? All those pesky facts...
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I suppose you couldn't figure out I was referring to the republican vote, as the article also states. I'll try to spell things out a little better for you next time.
Is that why you assumed you could add words to another poster's post?
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Old 27th October 2016, 12:42 PM   #139
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Would you care to put a forum wager on the spread? I'll give you ten to one odds trump gets his ass waxed like a Brazilian hooker. 10 point spread, minimum, of the popular vote nationwide.
That's optimistic. I'd say 6 to 8 tops. But I would be thrilled if you were right and I was wrong.
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Not usually queers, but mostly democrats.
See? I assumed you were using the dog whistle correctly (by your lights).

Thank you for your retraction.
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That's optimistic. I'd say 6 to 8 tops. But I would be thrilled if you were right and I was wrong.
I'm understating what I think the actual spread will be.
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Lol

Wouldn't it be nice if we could ask the questions we would like to?
I can. Observe:

Why are you so fundamentally mistaken about the bte noire you mislabel "the left", and how do you intend to repair your misunderstandings? Why are you so very often mistaken about those against whom you fling the term as if it were an epithet?

One wonders why you think you can't...
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Sure, that's always the possibility. In fact, I would argue that the so called conservative movement never has been conservative. The problem with this argument is like the question, "who is a Christian"? Who defines that? You?

Here is what conservative Charles Fried, former Solicitor General under Reagan said about his voting for Hillary. Its not enough to simply not support Trump, It is imperative that this man not be allowed to get anywhere near the levers of power. He must be defeated, and the only way to do that is by supporting Hillary Clinton.
"...but, but, no TRUE 'conservative'...!"
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I'm understating what I think the actual spread will be.
Man, I hope you're right.
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I guess that also applies to all the super-conservative newspapers, politicians and ex-officals that have endorsed Clinton, right?

By some polls, 17% of all self-identified conservatives plan to vote for her.

RINO.

No True Conservative.

Blah. Blah. Blah.
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Many moderates and rino's call themselves conservative. <snip>

Called it.
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'lol' Denial about what? You know nothing about me. You do not know who I am, what I am. You are an angry ball of hate. You hate those that don't think like you. You hate those who call 'leftists', which you use as an insult against everyone.

I pity you.
I really pity you too, why, because I've never had an actual conversation with you, you always come with an insult, have it your way.
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Sure, that's always the possibility. In fact, I would argue that the so called conservative movement never has been conservative. The problem with this argument is like the question, "who is a Christian"? Who defines that? You?

Here is what conservative Charles Fried, former Solicitor General under Reagan said about his voting for Hillary. Its not enough to simply not support Trump, It is imperative that this man not be allowed to get anywhere near the levers of power. He must be defeated, and the only way to do that is by supporting Hillary Clinton.
You can tell a Christian by what he/she does but only God knows the heart.

So if we take that example, we can tell a conservative by what he/she does.

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Here is what conservative Charles Fried, former Solicitor General under Reagan said about his voting for Hillary.

Yup. RINO.

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'lol' Denial about what? You know nothing about me. You do not know who I am, what I am. You are an angry ball of hate. You hate those that don't think like you. You hate those who call 'leftists', which you use as an insult against everyone.

I pity you.
None of it is real.

So there's that bit of solace.
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You can tell a Christian by what he/she does but only God knows the heart.

So if we take that example, we can tell a conservative by what he/she does.

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So by that argument, Trump is neither a Christian or a Conservative.
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Think of this, for the first time in your lifetime we will have a leftist court, once that happens it is truly over.
Just out of interest, (1) when was the last time that Democratic party appointed justices formed the majority in the SCOTUS, and (2) why wasn't it truly over then?

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Just out of interest, (1) when was the last time that Democratic party appointed justices formed the majority in the SCOTUS, and (2) why wasn't it truly over then?

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He's right though. The current culture war will be over when liberals take over the court. That's the thing about progressiveness vs reaction.

Reactionaries will at that point find another cause to latch on to and declare new culture wars. That's the way towards progress.
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Washington (CNN)Former Rep. Joe Walsh appeared to call for armed revolution Wednesday if Donald Trump is not elected president.

Walsh, a former tea party congressman from Illinois who is now a conservative talk radio host, tweeted, "On November 8th, I'm voting for Trump. On November 9th, if Trump loses, I'm grabbing my musket. You in?"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politi...ail_bottomlist
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Washington (CNN)Former Rep. Joe Walsh appeared to call for armed revolution Wednesday if Donald Trump is not elected president.

Walsh, a former tea party congressman from Illinois who is now a conservative talk radio host, tweeted, "On November 8th, I'm voting for Trump. On November 9th, if Trump loses, I'm grabbing my musket. You in?"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politi...ail_bottomlist
As mentioned in another thread where it came up "musket" is a dog whistle code word for armed insurgency by civilians, and the AR rifle is called "modern musket" by some people who associate the second amendment freedoms generally with the specific rifle used by troops in any time.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Washington (CNN)Former Rep. Joe Walsh appeared to call for armed revolution Wednesday if Donald Trump is not elected president.

Walsh, a former tea party congressman from Illinois who is now a conservative talk radio host, tweeted, "On November 8th, I'm voting for Trump. On November 9th, if Trump loses, I'm grabbing my musket. You in?"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politi...ail_bottomlist
He was a one term congressman....thrown out by the voters after just one two year term. FOr that to happen so quickly shows what a nutjob he is.
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I'm using an iPad. The software does not appear to realize this. I cannot proceed. I've tried double clicking, triple clicking, press and hold, all the things that Apple does in lieu of mousing an iPad.
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Colo sec/state course complete, class certificate PDF printed and saved on two machines, Trump team notified.


Should anyone else desire to take the course, be aware it demands a mouse to mouse-over stupid graphics on one page and will not work on an iPad. I'll send the State a bug report on it later, because it's dumb.
I've always imagined Apple products to be more of a Liberal thing. Maybe it is a feature not a bug?

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...evidence?
He was filmed boasting about it on his TV show in 2005?

Oh, sorry that was someone else, whose name escapes me as it doesn't seem so prominent on his brands now.
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
Just out of interest, (1) when was the last time that Democratic party appointed justices formed the majority in the SCOTUS, and (2) why wasn't it truly over then?

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Yea, what the hell does it mean "over"? Was it "over" during the Warren Court years? There are different issues for each generation. Will it signal the end of the battle on reproductive rights? I doubt it Will it mean people will have to give up their guns? Highly unlikely. Will Citizens United be overturned? Possibly.

The idea that it's over when you're own personal political ideological position no longer holds sway is not how a democracy works logger. Sometimes, the other guy wins.
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Originally Posted by Jrrarglblarg View Post
As mentioned in another thread where it came up "musket" is a dog whistle code word for armed insurgency by civilians, and the AR rifle is called "modern musket" by some people who associate the second amendment freedoms generally with the specific rifle used by troops in any time.
Did he see what happened to the Oregon Militia?
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US 16.4% of GDP of which 48.2% is public expenditure - 7.9% of GDP is public spending
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