Neo-Nazis demanding a seat at the conservative table - Page 2

ponderingturtle · 19th November 2019, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am very disgusted at Consevatives in America at the moment. Not least because on some fiscal issues and defense issues I would be considered a moderate conservative. No wonder a lot of conservatives call themselves "Libertarians".
Problem is the crazy relatives that the conservatives had kept locked in the attic except at election day have escapes and are running all over the house.

The problem I have with statements like this is that the last time conservatives were conservative instead of hard right was over 40 years ago. The fiscal issues you talk about the democrats are to the right of commies like Ike or Nixon after all.

Puppycow · 19th November 2019, 04:37 PM

Huh. I wasn't even aware of Nick Fuentes before, but I had heard of Malkin long ago.

Sounds like a real piece of work. Holocaust denier, apologist for segregation. What a cesspool.

Donal · 20th November 2019, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

The problem I have with statements like this is that the last time conservatives were conservative instead of hard right was over 40 years ago. The fiscal issues you talk about the democrats are to the right of commies like Ike or Nixon after all.

That is what they learned from Watergate. Not "don't be scumbags" or "choose country over party" or "respect the news media". They learned to double down on hardcore loyalists and play to people's worst traits.

There was a prominent Republican at that time who said that they weren't going to beat the Democrats on facts (I really wish I could find his name again.). They needed to appeal to base emotions. This was the same time they jumped into bed with Jerry Falwell and the superChristians, who were perfectly happy to stay in their own little enclaves until the government started enforcing godless things like "civil rights" and taking a look at their tax exempt status.

Which made Republican positions God's positions. If you sided with Democrats, you were siding against God. Which goes a long way to explaining certain features of the modern Republican party.

19th November 2019, 06:19 AM	#41
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,412	Originally Posted by dudalb I am very disgusted at Consevatives in America at the moment. Not least because on some fiscal issues and defense issues I would be considered a moderate conservative. No wonder a lot of conservatives call themselves "Libertarians". Problem is the crazy relatives that the conservatives had kept locked in the attic except at election day have escapes and are running all over the house. The problem I have with statements like this is that the last time conservatives were conservative instead of hard right was over 40 years ago. The fiscal issues you talk about the democrats are to the right of commies like Ike or Nixon after all.
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19th November 2019, 04:37 PM	#42
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 25,727	Huh. I wasn't even aware of Nick Fuentes before, but I had heard of Malkin long ago. Sounds like a real piece of work. Holocaust denier, apologist for segregation. What a cesspool.
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20th November 2019, 07:52 AM	#43
Donal Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,332	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle The problem I have with statements like this is that the last time conservatives were conservative instead of hard right was over 40 years ago. The fiscal issues you talk about the democrats are to the right of commies like Ike or Nixon after all. That is what they learned from Watergate. Not "don't be scumbags" or "choose country over party" or "respect the news media". They learned to double down on hardcore loyalists and play to people's worst traits. There was a prominent Republican at that time who said that they weren't going to beat the Democrats on facts (I really wish I could find his name again.). They needed to appeal to base emotions. This was the same time they jumped into bed with Jerry Falwell and the superChristians, who were perfectly happy to stay in their own little enclaves until the government started enforcing godless things like "civil rights" and taking a look at their tax exempt status. Which made Republican positions God's positions. If you sided with Democrats, you were siding against God. Which goes a long way to explaining certain features of the modern Republican party.
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