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4th January 2019, 02:23 PM | #1 |
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Millions Of Women In India Join Hands To Form A 385-Mile Wall
NPR: Millions Of Women In India Join Hands To Form A 385-Mile Wall Of Protest
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I don't have CNN or MSNBC anymore. Does anyone know if they covered the event? I've seen the rioting covered as women try to get the right to enter an important temple and extremists men are rioting because of it.
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4th January 2019, 02:32 PM | #2 |
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(Aside from the ensuing violence, naturally) |
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You lost me. You don't have CNN or MSNBC anymore? Can't you just go to CNN.com and search for the story or something? I mean, I was about to do just that, to try to answer your question. But then it occurred to me that you could do exactly the same thing, and your question is probably more interesting to you than to me anyway. Good luck!
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4th January 2019, 04:07 PM | #4 |
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India's and China's demographics (due to unintended consequences of family planning policies) mean that there are less women than men, and if you think Incels in the US are bad, oh boy the current issues in China/India are going to make that look tame.
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at least someone built a wall. amirite?
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So, doing the math, all Trump needs is about 25 million Indian women. Shouldn't be a problem for a chick magnet like him!
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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Gotta love how theprestige doesn't realize that what CNN covers on air and on their website is, *mild shock*, different. And yet theprestige operated on that incorrect information to make some weird kind of "you're lazy" gotcha. "Durrr... why are we even on a discussion forum when all information could be Googled?" |
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"gender wall demonstration" is a very weird label for it. Just reminds me of the joke that women are "people of gender"
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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Due to sex selective abortions, there are less women than men in both China and India, and it already is setting back the clock on women's rights in both countries. Zeihan talks specifically about Chinese issues in this blog post but it's a good indicator for issues in southeast Asia.
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5th January 2019, 05:17 PM | #25 |
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This thread is not about abortion, don't try to kill it by dragging it down that road.
As for the impact of a shortage of women, your logic makes zero sense. Women don't have any bargaining weight because men need wives. If anything it's the opposite. In the lower classes their families have to pay for husbands for the girls and some are still being killed because the in-laws don't think the dowry was big enough. Women in India are beginning to assert their rights in many areas. No doubt globalization leads to people all over the world seeing the rights others enjoy and finding like-minded people to join together. In India there have been movements to force the police to arrest rapists and prosecute dowry murderers. This particular movement is connected to the women forcing their way into a prominent Hindu Temple and some extremists men resisting and rioting. The courts ruled in favor of the women and amazingly the police are actually supporting the move. |
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One might look at some of the posts in this thread and wonder what it is that has drawn some of our resident right-wingers in. Women's religious rights in India is somehow a right wing issue?
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That's not surprising.
In a normally functioning market, the value of a good increases if it becomes more scarce. So from a purely market perspective, one might expect that if women become more scarce, their value as sexual partners should increase, and this should give them more bargaining power. But sexual relations are not simply another market. Women are not always granted bargaining power over their own bodies. Whatever sexual market value increase might be occurring because of the gender imbalance, women are not the beneficiaries. Instead, the extreme mismatch between sexual supply and demand creates a whole host of social pathologies which end up hurting women. Large groups of young men with little prospect for sexual pairing misbehave. They don't start treating women better in hopes of wooing them, they start treating them worse out of resentment. The same effects can be seen in polygamous societies: high-status men with multiple women reduce the available pool for low-status men, creating the same effect that a gender imbalance does. It's no coincidence that polygamous societies are horrible places for women. China and India are on the road to reproducing some of those pathologies. |
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I didn't see that in the OP article. Was there another one you had in mind?
I don't doubt that there were men who were outraged and all the crappy stuff that follows from that (hateful rhetoric, violence, etc.) but I'd be shocked if it was exclusively men - after all, it's not like cultural practices and tradition are endorsed and controlled solely by men. |
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I suppose it was a big mistake on my part believing people in this forum had a clue about such a major current event. Now I see either neither story was on CNN or no one who watches mainstream news has yet found their way to this thread.
Guardian: Protests break out in India after two women enter temple - Court ruling allows women to offer prayers in temple in Kerala after centuries-long ban
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I followed that link to another after reading this summary,
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Oh heaven forbid I said males when they are merely predominate but there are a few females in the crowd.
This is about a gender issue. Women are not dirty because they menstruate. And isolating menstruating women is a male dominant move. You want to discuss it? Let's discuss it. Don't get all snowflakey though about the fact this is about men oppressing women, unlike some of our other debates. |
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