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Old 10th August 2019, 06:26 AM   #1
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Epstein suicide conspiracy theories

Betting the interwebz gonna be lousy with them right quick

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Old 10th August 2019, 06:30 AM   #2
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Obviously Killary disguised herself as a guard and done him in!
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Prince Andrew sent in the Paris Tunnel 'hit squad'.
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Old 10th August 2019, 06:43 AM   #4
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Trump leaves the White House for a "golfing holiday" and his "old buddy" "commits suicide?" "Many people" are saying the timing is so "suspicious" it deserves scare "quotes."
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Well, anyway, it's good to have a closure for this unpleasant business. We can now move on to actually pressing matters.
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Old 10th August 2019, 07:03 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Prince Andrew sent in the Paris Tunnel 'hit squad'.
That was going to be my 'joke'.
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There were Epstein suicide conspiracy theories before Epstein committed suicide.
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Well, anyway, it's good to have a closure for this unpleasant business. We can now move on to actually pressing matters.
Btw, as most readers are American, I have to explain that this was slightly snarkish. Not that the suicide couldn't have been genuine, most probably it is, but at the same time I suspect it was a bit of a Christmas gift for many people. But in this fallen world bad people tend to get Christmas gifts without any devilish conspiracies being necessary.
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Old 10th August 2019, 07:18 AM   #9
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I'll be even more disappointed if this is the end of the investigation.
I hope they can find his money so the victims can sue for some.
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He had reason to kill himself. As long as the photos and tapes from his safe are safe and secure, I wouldn't give credence to conspiracy theories. However, if they suddenly disappear, it becomes much more likely that his alleged suicide may have been 'assisted' by his "powerful friends".

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Old 10th August 2019, 10:48 AM   #11
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Great, now *everyone* across the political spectrum is a conspiracy theorist.
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The British Royal Family had the most to lose here.
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Originally Posted by rgsalinger View Post
The British Royal Family had the most to lose here.
Are you saying that LaRouche was right?!
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You are already have some people here at ISF,who normally treat conspiracy theories with contempt , who are pushing this one because they hate Trump so much.
I don''t like Donny any more then they do, but I am going to need solid evidence before I scream Conspiracy.
It is going to be a test of how skeptical some people really are;If they are willing to apply the same skepticism they apply to Conspiracy Theories in general to one they would like to beleive for political reasons.
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Originally Posted by rgsalinger View Post
The British Royal Family had the most to lose here.
Gee, Lyndon, you still alive......
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The Trump-Epstein deals should be investigated, but I don't see a lot of indication that Trump would be particularly interested in underage girls- women are a status symbol for him, something to be displayed. What's the point of having sex with a 15 year old when you can't brag about?
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
The Trump-Epstein deals should be investigated, but I don't see a lot of indication that Trump would be particularly interested in underage girls- women are a status symbol for him, something to be displayed. What's the point of having sex with a 15 year old when you can't brag about?
Oh, the Trump/Epstein link should be througly investigated, I just think that accusing Trump of having Epstein murdered is something that shoulld not be done without a lot of proof then Ihave seen so far.
Sadlu, though , a couple of people here who should really no better are letting their understandable loathing for Trump really overcome their common sense.
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Hmm, suicide Eh?

A likely story. I wonder who put the hit out on him?
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This is a joke right?

I'm not dismissing the idea that it was suicide, it may well have been.

What I AM saying is that this is veeeeery convenient for a helluva lot of powerful and well connected people who would surely have been crapping themselves that Epstein would roll over on them. His death is a gift from Heaven for them, and exactly what they would have been hoping for.

There is still a lot of documentary evidence in the possession of the Feds. Hopefully, that will name names, but if that evidence suddenly goes missing, then I have little doubt that we will have a full blown cover up on our hands.


ETA: And for the avoidance of doubt, much as I despise Donald Trump, I do not believe he was in any way involved in Epstein's depraved activities.
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I do not believe he was in any way involved in Epstein's depraved activities.

Neither do I, but I also wouldn't be shocked if he turned out to be in some way:

"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." (Trump, 2002)

What's the point of Trump's "It is even said ..." in 2002 when we have seen the footage of Trump and Epstein in 1992?
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Great, now *everyone* across the political spectrum is a conspiracy theorist.

On the bright side, this may be the event that re-unifies the country!
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I have a hard time believing that a rich man with a seemingly lot of info to cut a legal deal with would just kill himself in a very painful way at this early stage.
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Conspiracy theories involving normal, sane people don't work because you can't keep stuff like that a secret.

Trump can't keep anything a secret.

That's why there is literally no chance that there's an alien body at Roswell. Trump would have had tweeted about it by now.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I'm not dismissing the idea that it was suicide, it may well have been.

What I AM saying is that this is veeeeery convenient for a helluva lot of powerful and well connected people who would surely have been crapping themselves that Epstein would roll over on them. His death is a gift from Heaven for them, and exactly what they would have been hoping for.

There is still a lot of documentary evidence in the possession of the Feds. Hopefully, that will name names, but if that evidence suddenly goes missing, then I have little doubt that we will have a full blown cover up on our hands.


ETA: And for the avoidance of doubt, much as I despise Donald Trump, I do not believe he was in any way involved in Epstein's depraved activities.
I'll wait for the investigation...but I think Epstein had only one way out and he took it. It's strange that he was not on suicide watch since he'd already tried once. I feel bad for the guards on that block because there will be 3 investigations to get to the bottom of this.

That said, Epstein and his girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell ran an organization that trafficked minors for sex across three continents for over 25 years. In addition to that he also appears to have built his fortune on ponzi schemes. Set aside his untimely death for a moment and one must admit Epstein was at the center of a highly successful CONSPIRACY (that's what the Federal charge is). This should be treated as an opportunity to get a close look at how the real thing is done. We're talking about a man with considerable money with equally wealthy "friends", and friends in high places.

The Feds issued a statement saying that they are not dropping the case and are asking for more witnesses, and victims to come forward.

Good riddance.
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for Christ's sake can't a guy just kill himself nowadays?
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
That said, Epstein and his girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell ran an organization that trafficked minors for sex across three continents for over 25 years. In addition to that he also appears to have built his fortune on ponzi schemes.
I sincerely hope the Feds start turning the screws on her, really hard. She could be in possession of key and damning evidence.

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Set aside his untimely death for a moment and one must admit Epstein was at the center of a highly successful CONSPIRACY (that's what the Federal charge is). This should be treated as an opportunity to get a close look at how the real thing is done. We're talking about a man with considerable money with equally wealthy "friends", and friends in high places.
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The Feds issued a statement saying that they are not dropping the case and are asking for more witnesses, and victims to come forward.
I hope so, but I am deeply suspicious of the DoJ under Barr. His performance as AG has been, frankly, corrupt. Barr is very much a conservative partisan - I have zero doubt that if there is the slightest hint of any Republican politician's names appearing in that investigation, he will shut it down pronto., and of course if Democrat politician's names come up, it will be all ahead full.

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Good riddance.
Agree. The world is a better place without that sort of scum contaminating it.
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I have a hard time believing that a rich man with a seemingly lot of info to cut a legal deal with would just kill himself in a very painful way at this early stage.
Mate, three years a member before your first post! Welcome in.

I think he was aware there were no deals to be cut this time. But yes, helluva convenient. Scalia x 1,000,000 is where this is headed.
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I have trouble here.
To me, and it may not be rational, but in this instance I definitely can see the possibility, even probability of a conspiracy to quiet him.
No, not because of a hatred of Trump or Clinton.
Lots of powerful people had reason.
Now, there's supposed to be a lot of material apart from testimony thats available.
I hope so.
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Betting the interwebz gonna be lousy with them right quick

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I have trouble here.
To me, and it may not be rational, but in this instance I definitely can see the possibility, even probability of a conspiracy to quiet him.
No, not because of a hatred of Trump or Clinton.
Lots of powerful people had reason.
Now, there's supposed to be a lot of material apart from testimony thats available.
I hope so.
I see as more likely the guy killed himself out of humiliation and shame, like a lot of people who commit suicide behind bars.
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I see as more likely the guy killed himself out of humiliation and shame, like a lot of people who commit suicide behind bars.
OH it's definitely the more straightforward one. And it's simpler and more straightforward.
There's plenty of evidence to be presented in the case yet.
And he had plenty of reasons that would cause someone to commit suicide.
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[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
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The Trump-Epstein deals should be investigated, but I don't see a lot of indication that Trump would be particularly interested in underage girls- women are a status symbol for him, something to be displayed. What's the point of having sex with a 15 year old when you can't brag about?
I have one word for you - Ivanka.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7a7_story.html

Even our president believes in conspiracy theories.
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[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
[debunkermode]... of course hes dead, someone would have talked, everyone knows people cant keep secrets [/debunkermode]
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Even our president believes in conspiracy theories.
Considering his extreme pushing of the birther CT, it's not much of a surprise he's all over this one.
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I have one word for you - Ivanka.
Ivanka is a status symbol without having to be a romantic interest.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Ivanka is a status symbol without having to be a romantic interest.
What about him going into the changing rooms?
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The far-right wing crazies sure have been busy dusting off those old "Clinton Murders" crackpot conspiracy theories.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Ivanka is a status symbol without having to be a romantic interest.
Err, have you seen how he can't seem to keep his hands off her

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[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
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[debunkermode]... of course hes dead, someone would have talked, everyone knows people cant keep secrets [/debunkermode]
*Scoffs* So you two actually think Epstein really existed?

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