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#721 |
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You forgot again. Chickens evolved from egg laying dinosaurs called the theropods. Eggs are a DNA protein structure that evolved with sexual reproduction in mitosis almost 500 million years ago.
You simply don't know anything about anything and you refuse to read books on evolution as it destroys your hilarious "God is infinity" religion. ![]() |
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#722 |
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No dude the Proto-Sinaitic" inscriptions are dated between 1850 BC, and 1550 BC. Humans predate the invention of writing for about 187,000 years, and the Earth predates humans 3.8 billion years, and the Universe predates the Earth, and God predates ALL and the Infinite includes All!
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#723 |
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#724 |
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Boy. You really are that ignorant. Proto-Sinaitic is during the bronze age.
![]() Proto-Sinaitic, also referred to as Sinaitic, and Proto-Canaanite (when found in Canaan),[1] is a Middle Bronze Age (Middle Kingdom) script https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script You really have the same limited knowledge as a bronze age sheep herder. ![]() |
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#725 |
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I don't deny that cancer and decease exist. But you seem to mix up constructive uniform formation with destructive malformation! That is like mixing up building a house (intelligent design) with burning it down or wrecking it (not much intelligence involved). You need extensive studying to become an architect, and training and skill to become a builder. Give a 2 year old a box of matches and he/she can set a city on fire!
And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed, the utter nonsense with which it was attempted to convince people, that mere chancy mutations/formations created the whole Universe! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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#726 |
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So you now admit that DNA mutates and thus allows for evolution. You should write that down on your forehead with a black felt marker.
![]() No. As I actually know biology I inform you that most mutations are destructive. That's why life on Earth has taken 3.8 billion years to evolve. It is only advantageous mutations that increase a species reproduction advantage. You didn't even know that? ![]() The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA? ![]() You really seem more permanently confused than usual today. |
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#727 |
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You poor ignorant religious person. Bacteria are currently evolving in response to antibiotics. That's why we have "super bugs" that are resistant to antibiotics.
You really need to read children's science book about evolution as you don't know anything. "Antibiotic resistance evolves naturally via natural selection through random mutation....... https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/a...resistance.htm As you don't believe in evolution you should stick to the old versions of penicillin. That should benefit the human species when your DNA is removed from the gene pool. ![]() |
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#730 |
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No. The evolved bacteria that are now resistant to antibiotics are resistant to antibiotics. Ask a four year old to explain this to you as you are really struggling with this basic fact.
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#731 |
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard
![]() That makes sense. You also think that photon electromagnetic waves are actually particles and that your god created the universe and made man in his image, 13.8 billion years before man existed. Yep. Your new "God is infinity" religion is 100% bat-**** crazy. ![]() |
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#732 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
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#733 |
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#734 |
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#735 |
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#736 |
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His posting name, "anastazio", is a variation of the greek word for resurrection. He thinks he is the new Christ, here to spread his new version of the Bible.
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#737 |
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There is no absolute void.
Computer simulation of Quantum Fluctuations: https://youtu.be/WZgZI5vymiM] From the Quantum Fluctuations of the Infinite Microcosm to the infinite Multi-Universes of the Infinite Macrocosm; the Quantum Fluctuations start the formation of the Universes and to the Quantum Fluctuations the Universes de-form. This is the Infinite. |
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#738 |
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No. If it were "infinite" as you claim in your hilarious "infinity of infinities religion" there would be an infinite number of new particles being created at any point in time in one location. But there isn't, is there?
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#739 |
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No clue. You'd probably get a good answer if you asked a biologist who specialized in the evolution of eggs and private parts, or read a book that explained this. Why haven't you?
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#740 |
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#741 |
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It doesn't matter for the Infinite how we organize our society; yet consciousness helps us function better in it and in life in general. The Infinite has no need or use of our faith to it, our glorification of it and of us worshipping it. As for anything concerning "God", it depends on our understanding of the term; it depends on what we think of what God is, or isn't.
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#742 |
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#743 |
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Nope. I know what the word means. You don't. If there were a infinite number of particles being created by quantum fluctuation in any one location, at any one point in time the universe would not exist in any coherent manner.
In reality we know that we can determine quantum radioactive decay, half life, through statistics, although not allowing science to predict for any individual particle's decay, and it isn't infinite is it? That destroys your silly "infinity of infinities religion" claim yet again. |
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#744 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
This is why all your posts are incoherent and do not make any sense. |
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#745 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
Have you worked out that both sexes have to evolve simultaneously otherwise a DNA gamete, which only contains half the DNA information, would not be able to form a zygote (embryo), with another gamete, at fertilisation. That's why you look like both your mother and father. You did know that? ![]()
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#746 |
Critical Thinker
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Once again y' all, and some extras:
1) How can you get a singularity out of a non-dimentional, absolute nothingness! 2) If the universe has boundaries how could it be in the middle of a non-dimentional, absolute nothingness! 3) For 93 billion years, light is traveling in all direction, sure some is absorbed by matter in the universe and trapped into black holes; yet light is still generated for 93 billion years from 70 billion trillion stars. So would it illuminate the universe at some point, get backed up due to the time it takes for it to be trapped into the black holes; if that is, there was no way for it to escape, since beyond the boundaries of the Universe there is a non-dimentional, absolute nothingness! 4) If there is a dimensional void beyond the boundaries of the Universe, could the Universe be seen and from how far away? Would energy be needed to be added to the energy of light to keep light traveling, and for how far/long would light travel? Could it be that quantum fluctuations generate particles of energy absorbed by light, causing it to have its wavy form? Could it be that quantum fluctuations generate particle amounts of energy absorbed by light? Could we harness that energy to traverse the vast distances within our galaxy? Could it be that quantum flactuations form an invisible structure that generates the helix form and movement of galaxies, and the helical movement of planets around the galaxies? 5) Is there a soul; or all there is, is our collective memories; images along with substances in our brain which we understand as feelings, and the effect of them to our heart through the stimulation of our nerves, transferring the outcome to our heart? Is the idea of "soul" simply a product of our imagination, sprang from our need to hope and wish for an afterlife, due to brining to mind a being's last ever exhalation, and nothing more! 6) Could our memories be transferred to our clones, allowing "us" to "live" beyond death! 7) Could there be beings or organizations of beings, not infinite of course, yet of exceedingly higher scientific ability and capacity over nature, than humans; super-alien beings, or organizations of such beings? 8) Would such super beings care about us humans, ants in comparison; about what we do or how we organize our society? Would they need for us to glorify and worship them? Would they use us for their entertainment as pawns in a chess game, a result of a bet, sport in competition? Wouldn't they have more important issues to occupy their super existence, other than dealing with insects, like children, on a daily basis! Would they need to "cultivate" us, and for what purpose; or the monster under the bed or in the closet, is a product of human imagination; created and fueled for political and monetary power in society, and control of humanity, via the peddling of fear and hope! The only absolutely certain thing is that everything forms from the Infinite and de-forms into the Infinite; everything is finite (as is nothing); nothing lasts forever. Only the Infinite is, was and always will be! From Earth to the Multi-Universe in 6 minutes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q1mkjkTqg0Y |
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#747 |
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There's no way that I'm aware of. Of course, it's a moot point since so far as we're aware there is no such thing as absolute nothingness. And even if there were, my ignorance is just that, ignorance. "I don't know" does not logically lead to "magic man must of done it."
Again, moot point since the universe, so far as we know, doesn't have boundaries in the simple, three-dimensional sense. The universe is not expanding into some already existing space, it is an expansion of space itself. Think of it like the surface of an expanding sphere. There is no center. There is no edge. It's not easy for our minds to really grasp the concept, but that's a failing of our minds, not the universe. 13.7 billion (give or take), not 93. And those stars haven't illuminated the universe because there simply aren't enough of them / enough time. The universe is finite, and due to expansion we can't even see all of it. And, again, there is no "absolute nothingness". There is no "beyond the boundaries of the universe". The universe is, at least locally cosmologically speaking, everything. Beyond the universe is like north of the north pole. No boundaries, no dimensional void. Light is self-propagating and needs no energy to "keep moving" because that is it's default state. The idea that things need energy to "keep moving" was put to bed by Isaac Newton. Yeap. Exactly that. Souls are imaginary. The idea was born of ignorance and is held on to in the modern day based on wishful thinking and nothing more. Yes to the question, no to the implication. It's not impossible to transfer memories directly, though it might be impractical, but there's no reason to believe the body with your memories is still you, any more than a photocopy of a document is the original document. Yes. "It's possible" doesn't mean much though. And there's no evidence that such beings, if they exist, have ever interacted with us. Who knows? Such beings would likely be completely alien in their way of thinking. Or maybe a bit of convergent evolution would shape them more similar to us. The need for a stable functioning society does limit the possibilities a bit after all. But ultimately without evidence of these beings even existing baseless speculation is just baseless speculation. It can be fun to do, and I won't deny that speculating about alien life can produce insights into why we are the way we are, but it's not going to produce any useful data about the hypothetical aliens. |
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#748 |
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Odd. Eggs were in constant use before there were chickens. Those came after.Thus I have no clue if the protagonist even has a point to make? Eggs obviosly. It is not a controvesial topic, is it?
But then one has to step back and look at the excuse for an argument. The protagonist WANTS to manufacture a controversy out of whole cloth. Like it or lump it, that is the playlist. Sure, it is amusingly bovine. Which is whyI am amused not annoyed. That said, annoyance with the pests is not far behind. I am not about to have a coronary because some wingnut said a stupid thing. That is their job description. |
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#749 |
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Thank you for your answers. Nice pun with your Avatar and the wordplay bty.
I need to rephrase this one, Light has been generated for 13.8 light years time, and is continuously generated by billions of trillions of stars, spreading throughout a maximum distance (diameter) of 93 billion light - years, and at lesser distances through a hypothetical center in all directions. True, only Newton was referring to our finite, known Universe and to a void which we now consider to not be absolutely empty. So how far can light travel into infinity and through universes that may exist under different laws. That is why I wondered from what maximum distance could our Universe be detected. |
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#750 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
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#751 |
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Ridiculous arguments from both of you, for even a five year old could google now and inform you that Dinos evolved from archosaurs which evolved from diapsid reptiles, which evolved from species which evolved from birds and reptiles, all of which evolved from the first amphibian species that made their way to land from the occean and perhaps evolved from sea mammals who may have evolved from egg laying species or mammals. But if you want to fill pages with nonsense and ridiculous arguments, be my guests and knock yourselves out. |
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#752 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio in December 2019
Originally Posted by tazanastazio today
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#753 |
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#754 |
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I analyze that statement again for you personally:
Light has been generated for 13.8 light years time, and is continuously generated by billions of trillions of stars, spreading throughout a maximum distance (diameter) of 93 billion light - years, and at lesser distances through a hypothetical center in all directions. |
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#755 |
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Keep trying, you may succeed in convincing people that you can't tell a pun for what it is.
This is what generates everything to infinity: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=WZgZI5vymiM *P R O V E _M E_W R O N G !* |
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#756 |
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#757 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
You were also denying that light waves existed, so we asked you to explain why polariod glasses work. using your "little bouncing balls". You ran away again. ![]() |
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#758 |
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Light moves into infinity.
You are the one who BELIEVES the ridiculous notion that 0 + 0 = Everything You are the one who BELIEVES in a Universe the boundary of which is a non-dimentional nothingness. You are the one who BELIEVES that the Universe sprang into existence from a non-dimentional, absolute nothingness! I SIMPLY PROVED YOUR RELIGION OF NOTHINGNESS WRONG AND A FALLACY! |
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#759 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazi0
Tell us in your own words what quantum fluctuation is and how it statistically creates particles? You can't, can you? You simply added a random video and hoped no one would notice. ![]() |
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#760 |
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Originally Posted by tazanastazio
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