The Infinite! In Search of The Ultimate Truth. - Page 19

Matthew Ellard · 2nd December 2019, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

Having said all that, you still come up against "Did the chicken bear the egg, or the egg the chicken?"

You forgot again. Chickens evolved from egg laying dinosaurs called the theropods. Eggs are a DNA protein structure that evolved with sexual reproduction in mitosis almost 500 million years ago.

You simply don't know anything about anything and you refuse to read books on evolution as it destroys your hilarious "God is infinity" religion.

tazanastazio · 2nd December 2019, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard

No. Life on Earth is 3.8 billion years old. Humans are only 190,000 years old.

Who cares about this fictional "god" character invented by bronze age sheep herders, 3,000 years ago.

No dude the Proto-Sinaitic" inscriptions are dated between 1850 BC, and 1550 BC. Humans predate the invention of writing for about 187,000 years, and the Earth predates humans 3.8 billion years, and the Universe predates the Earth, and God predates ALL and the Infinite includes All!

Matthew Ellard · 2nd December 2019, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

...And why did the species need to evolve the seventh method, namely "Gamogenesis"?

No species "needs to evolve". Mutations occur naturally and allow for evolution.

That's why you deny cancer (DNA mutation) exists, because you are a religious person from the Dark Ages.

Matthew Ellard · 2nd December 2019, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

No dude the Proto-Sinaitic" inscriptions are dated between 1850 BC, and 1550 BC. Humans predate the invention of writing for about 187,000 years, and the Earth predates humans 3.8 billion years, and the Universe predates the Earth, and God / the Infinite predates ALL!

Boy. You really are that ignorant. Proto-Sinaitic is during the bronze age.

Proto-Sinaitic, also referred to as Sinaitic, and Proto-Canaanite (when found in Canaan),[1] is a Middle Bronze Age (Middle Kingdom) script
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script

You really have the same limited knowledge as a bronze age sheep herder.

tazanastazio · 2nd December 2019, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard

No species "needs to evolve". Mutations occur naturally and allow for evolution.

That's why you deny cancer (DNA mutation) exists, because you are a religious person from the Dark Ages.

I don't deny that cancer and decease exist. But you seem to mix up constructive uniform formation with destructive malformation! That is like mixing up building a house (intelligent design) with burning it down or wrecking it (not much intelligence involved). You need extensive studying to become an architect, and training and skill to become a builder. Give a 2 year old a box of matches and he/she can set a city on fire!

And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed, the utter nonsense with which it was attempted to convince people, that mere chancy mutations/formations created the whole Universe!

Matthew Ellard · 2nd December 2019, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

I don't deny that cancer and ~~decease~~ (disease) exist.

So you now admit that DNA mutates and thus allows for evolution. You should write that down on your forehead with a black felt marker.

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

But you seem to mix up constructive uniform formation with destructive malformation!

No. As I actually know biology I inform you that most mutations are destructive. That's why life on Earth has taken 3.8 billion years to evolve. It is only advantageous mutations that increase a species reproduction advantage. You didn't even know that?

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed the utter nonsense which attempted to convince people that mere chancy mutations created the whole Universe!

The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA?

You really seem more permanently confused than usual today.

Matthew Ellard · 2nd December 2019, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

You need extensive studying to become an architect, and training and skill to become a builder.

You poor ignorant religious person. Bacteria are currently evolving in response to antibiotics. That's why we have "super bugs" that are resistant to antibiotics.

You really need to read children's science book about evolution as you don't know anything.

"Antibiotic resistance evolves naturally via natural selection through random mutation.......
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/a...resistance.htm

As you don't believe in evolution you should stick to the old versions of penicillin. That should benefit the human species when your DNA is removed from the gene pool.

tazanastazio · 2nd December 2019, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard

You poor ignorant religious person. Bacteria are currently evolving in response to antibiotics. That's why we have "super bugs" that are resistant to antibiotics.

You really need to read children's science book about evolution as you don't know anything.

"Antibiotic resistance evolves naturally via natural selection through random mutation.......
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/a...resistance.htm

As you don't believe in evolution you should stick to the old versions of penicillin. That should benefit the human species when your DNA is removed from the gene pool.

Yes, bacteria respond to antibiotics; they don't build skyscrapers, send their species to space and perform surgeries.

tazanastazio · 2nd December 2019, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard

So you now admit that DNA mutates and thus allows for evolution. You should write that down on your forehead with a black felt marker.

No. As I actually know biology I inform you that most mutations are destructive. That's why life on Earth has taken 3.8 billion years to evolve. It is only advantageous mutations that increase a species reproduction advantage. You didn't even know that?

The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA?

You really seem more permanently confused than usual today.

Nitpicking words again, huh Matthew? There, "mutations/formations", I fixed it.

Matthew Ellard · 3rd December 2019, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

Yes, bacteria respond to antibiotics

No. The evolved bacteria that are now resistant to antibiotics are resistant to antibiotics. Ask a four year old to explain this to you as you are really struggling with this basic fact.

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

they don't build skyscrapers, send their species to space and perform surgeries.

Neither do you. Bacteria don't understand evolution. Neither do you.

Matthew Ellard · 3rd December 2019, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed the utter nonsense which attempted to convince people that mere chancy mutations created the whole Universe!

Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard

The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA?

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

Nitpicking words again, huh Matthew? There, "mutations/formations", I fixed it.

So you think a "mummy planet" and a "daddy planet" have a special moment and form baby planets.

That makes sense. You also think that photon electromagnetic waves are actually particles and that your god created the universe and made man in his image, 13.8 billion years before man existed.

Yep. Your new "God is infinity" religion is 100% bat-**** crazy.

Matthew Ellard · 3rd December 2019, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability....

You really didn't know that chickens evolved, until I told you, did you?

That was hilarious.

Cosmic Yak · 3rd December 2019, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

Here is an "iota" of evidence over the existence of the "Alpha and the Omega" :

Which sex among the species evolved first? How did the species produce prior to evolving reproductive organs?

How did the species produced the organs of vision prior to knowing what was there to see?

Why did species evolve consciousness? What purpose would guilt serve them individually?

Perhaps the human need of consciousness, guilt and even the forming of religions did evolve - under the Infinite's involvement / ordained by God - as a first means of collective self administration; but species individually would have no purpose to evolve guilt. In the contrary!

Isn't it not that the need to prove that God does not exist, springs from our very quest to get rid of guilt?

How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability evolving?

This is a list of questions.
Unanswered questions do not constitute evidence.

Pixel42 · 3rd December 2019, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

This is a list of questions.
Unanswered questions do not constitute evidence.

Especially when the answers are in fact freely available to anyone who can be bothered to look them up.

ferd burfle · 3rd December 2019, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by tazanastazio

Here is an "iota" of evidence over the existence of the "Alpha and the Omega" :

Which sex among the species evolved first? How did the species produce prior to evolving reproductive organs?

How did the species produced the organs of vision prior to knowing what was there to see?

Why did species evolve consciousness? What purpose would guilt serve them individually?

Perhaps the human need of consciousness, guilt and even the forming of religions did evolve - under the Infinite's involvement / ordained by God - as a first means of collective self administration; but species individually would have no purpose to evolve guilt. In the contrary!

Isn't it not that the need to prove that God does not exist, springs from our very quest to get rid of guilt?

How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability evolving?

Once the thin veneer of infinity mumbo-jumbo is scraped away, all that's left is just another willfully ignorant Christian fundy? How...disappointing

Matthew Ellard · 3rd December 2019, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by ferd burfle

Once the thin veneer of infinity mumbo-jumbo is scraped away, all that's left is just another willfully ignorant Christian fundy? How...disappointing

His posting name, "anastazio", is a variation of the greek word for resurrection. He thinks he is the new Christ, here to spread his new version of the Bible.

This name derives from the Ancient Greek name “Anastásios (Αναστάσιος)”, from “anástasis ‎(ᾰ̓νᾰ́στᾰσῐς)”, meaning “resurrection, rebirth”
http://www.name-doctor.com/name-anas...zio-39652.html

2nd December 2019, 07:38 PM	#722
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard No. Life on Earth is 3.8 billion years old. Humans are only 190,000 years old. Who cares about this fictional "god" character invented by bronze age sheep herders, 3,000 years ago. No dude the Proto-Sinaitic" inscriptions are dated between 1850 BC, and 1550 BC. Humans predate the invention of writing for about 187,000 years, and the Earth predates humans 3.8 billion years, and the Universe predates the Earth, and God predates ALL and the Infinite includes All!
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Last edited by tazanastazio; 2nd December 2019 at 07:42 PM.

2nd December 2019, 07:48 PM	#725
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard No species "needs to evolve". Mutations occur naturally and allow for evolution. That's why you deny cancer (DNA mutation) exists, because you are a religious person from the Dark Ages. I don't deny that cancer and decease exist. But you seem to mix up constructive uniform formation with destructive malformation! That is like mixing up building a house (intelligent design) with burning it down or wrecking it (not much intelligence involved). You need extensive studying to become an architect, and training and skill to become a builder. Give a 2 year old a box of matches and he/she can set a city on fire! And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed, the utter nonsense with which it was attempted to convince people, that mere chancy mutations/formations created the whole Universe!
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Last edited by tazanastazio; 2nd December 2019 at 09:21 PM.

2nd December 2019, 09:23 PM	#728
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard You poor ignorant religious person. Bacteria are currently evolving in response to antibiotics. That's why we have "super bugs" that are resistant to antibiotics. You really need to read children's science book about evolution as you don't know anything. "Antibiotic resistance evolves naturally via natural selection through random mutation....... https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/a...resistance.htm As you don't believe in evolution you should stick to the old versions of penicillin. That should benefit the human species when your DNA is removed from the gene pool. Yes, bacteria respond to antibiotics; they don't build skyscrapers, send their species to space and perform surgeries.
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Last edited by tazanastazio; 2nd December 2019 at 09:48 PM.

2nd December 2019, 09:26 PM	#729
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard So you now admit that DNA mutates and thus allows for evolution. You should write that down on your forehead with a black felt marker. No. As I actually know biology I inform you that most mutations are destructive. That's why life on Earth has taken 3.8 billion years to evolve. It is only advantageous mutations that increase a species reproduction advantage. You didn't even know that? The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA? You really seem more permanently confused than usual today. Nitpicking words again, huh Matthew? There, "mutations/formations", I fixed it.
tazanastazio Thinker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 240	Last edited by tazanastazio; 2nd December 2019 at 09:51 PM.

3rd December 2019, 02:43 AM	#733
Cosmic Yak Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 3,114	Originally Posted by tazanastazio Here is an "iota" of evidence over the existence of the "Alpha and the Omega" : Which sex among the species evolved first? How did the species produce prior to evolving reproductive organs? How did the species produced the organs of vision prior to knowing what was there to see? Why did species evolve consciousness? What purpose would guilt serve them individually? Perhaps the human need of consciousness, guilt and even the forming of religions did evolve - under the Infinite's involvement / ordained by God - as a first means of collective self administration; but species individually would have no purpose to evolve guilt. In the contrary! Isn't it not that the need to prove that God does not exist, springs from our very quest to get rid of guilt? How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability evolving? This is a list of questions. Unanswered questions do not constitute evidence.
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2nd December 2019, 07:37 PM	#721
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio Having said all that, you still come up against "Did the chicken bear the egg, or the egg the chicken?" You forgot again. Chickens evolved from egg laying dinosaurs called the theropods. Eggs are a DNA protein structure that evolved with sexual reproduction in mitosis almost 500 million years ago. You simply don't know anything about anything and you refuse to read books on evolution as it destroys your hilarious "God is infinity" religion.

2nd December 2019, 07:40 PM	#723
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio ...And why did the species need to evolve the seventh method, namely "Gamogenesis"? No species "needs to evolve". Mutations occur naturally and allow for evolution. That's why you deny cancer (DNA mutation) exists, because you are a religious person from the Dark Ages.

2nd December 2019, 07:45 PM	#724
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio No dude the Proto-Sinaitic" inscriptions are dated between 1850 BC, and 1550 BC. Humans predate the invention of writing for about 187,000 years, and the Earth predates humans 3.8 billion years, and the Universe predates the Earth, and God / the Infinite predates ALL! Boy. You really are that ignorant. Proto-Sinaitic is during the bronze age. Proto-Sinaitic, also referred to as Sinaitic, and Proto-Canaanite (when found in Canaan),[1] is a Middle Bronze Age (Middle Kingdom) script https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script You really have the same limited knowledge as a bronze age sheep herder.

2nd December 2019, 08:52 PM	#726
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio I don't deny that cancer and ~~decease~~ (disease) exist. So you now admit that DNA mutates and thus allows for evolution. You should write that down on your forehead with a black felt marker. Originally Posted by tazanastazio But you seem to mix up constructive uniform formation with destructive malformation! No. As I actually know biology I inform you that most mutations are destructive. That's why life on Earth has taken 3.8 billion years to evolve. It is only advantageous mutations that increase a species reproduction advantage. You didn't even know that? Originally Posted by tazanastazio And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed the utter nonsense which attempted to convince people that mere chancy mutations created the whole Universe! The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA? You really seem more permanently confused than usual today.

2nd December 2019, 09:00 PM	#727
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio You need extensive studying to become an architect, and training and skill to become a builder. You poor ignorant religious person. Bacteria are currently evolving in response to antibiotics. That's why we have "super bugs" that are resistant to antibiotics. You really need to read children's science book about evolution as you don't know anything. "Antibiotic resistance evolves naturally via natural selection through random mutation....... https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/a...resistance.htm As you don't believe in evolution you should stick to the old versions of penicillin. That should benefit the human species when your DNA is removed from the gene pool.

3rd December 2019, 01:36 AM	#730
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio Yes, bacteria respond to antibiotics No. The evolved bacteria that are now resistant to antibiotics are resistant to antibiotics. Ask a four year old to explain this to you as you are really struggling with this basic fact. Originally Posted by tazanastazio they don't build skyscrapers, send their species to space and perform surgeries. Neither do you. Bacteria don't understand evolution. Neither do you.

3rd December 2019, 01:46 AM	#731
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio And thus, on the day of the Lord Dec 2nd 2019, was destroyed the utter nonsense which attempted to convince people that mere chancy mutations created the whole Universe! Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard The universe does not evolve and planets don't have babies. Are you really that insane that you think planets have offspring using DNA? Originally Posted by tazanastazio Nitpicking words again, huh Matthew? There, "mutations/formations", I fixed it. So you think a "mummy planet" and a "daddy planet" have a special moment and form baby planets. That makes sense. You also think that photon electromagnetic waves are actually particles and that your god created the universe and made man in his image, 13.8 billion years before man existed. Yep. Your new "God is infinity" religion is 100% bat-**** crazy.

3rd December 2019, 01:57 AM	#732
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by tazanastazio How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability.... You really didn't know that chickens evolved, until I told you, did you? That was hilarious.

3rd December 2019, 02:47 AM	#734
Pixel42 Schrödinger's cat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Malmesbury, UK Posts: 11,470	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak This is a list of questions. Unanswered questions do not constitute evidence. Especially when the answers are in fact freely available to anyone who can be bothered to look them up.
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3rd December 2019, 10:39 AM	#735
ferd burfle Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Just short of Zeta II Reticuli Posts: 1,461	Originally Posted by tazanastazio Here is an "iota" of evidence over the existence of the "Alpha and the Omega" : Which sex among the species evolved first? How did the species produce prior to evolving reproductive organs? How did the species produced the organs of vision prior to knowing what was there to see? Why did species evolve consciousness? What purpose would guilt serve them individually? Perhaps the human need of consciousness, guilt and even the forming of religions did evolve - under the Infinite's involvement / ordained by God - as a first means of collective self administration; but species individually would have no purpose to evolve guilt. In the contrary! Isn't it not that the need to prove that God does not exist, springs from our very quest to get rid of guilt? How was the first chicken produced prior to the egg producing ability evolving? Once the thin veneer of infinity mumbo-jumbo is scraped away, all that's left is just another willfully ignorant Christian fundy? How...disappointing
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3rd December 2019, 08:55 PM	#736
Matthew Ellard Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,425	Originally Posted by ferd burfle Once the thin veneer of infinity mumbo-jumbo is scraped away, all that's left is just another willfully ignorant Christian fundy? How...disappointing His posting name, "anastazio", is a variation of the greek word for resurrection. He thinks he is the new Christ, here to spread his new version of the Bible. This name derives from the Ancient Greek name “Anastásios (Αναστάσιος)”, from “anástasis ‎(ᾰ̓νᾰ́στᾰσῐς)”, meaning “resurrection, rebirth” http://www.name-doctor.com/name-anas...zio-39652.html