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Old 28th July 2022, 11:24 PM   #721
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I have been intermittently watching the live feed over at the Law and Crime network

https://youtu.be/7VM7HgjzI9U

and I made the mistake of going through the comments section. The number of people who see Alex Jones as the victim and are declaring him a martyr for the cause of press freedom is mindboggling.
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Old 29th July 2022, 12:07 AM   #722
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He's fighting for their Right to defame and abuse others for profit.
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Old 29th July 2022, 04:32 AM   #723
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
He's fighting for their Right to defame and abuse others for profit.
I suspect he fighting for his right to sound like a dump-truck of gravel and manure is pouring out of his throat, while having an incoherent screaming fit, and looking like a weather-beaten fire-plug. Also for his right to grift illegally.
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Old 29th July 2022, 11:45 AM   #724
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Originally Posted by Susheel View Post
I have been intermittently watching the live feed over at the Law and Crime network

https://youtu.be/7VM7HgjzI9U

and I made the mistake of going through the comments section. The number of people who see Alex Jones as the victim and are declaring him a martyr for the cause of press freedom is mindboggling.

Nah, it not; i think the numbers are not that great, they just make a lot of noise. And a couple of dozen people can take over and dominate a forum.
And Your Tube forums have never been a souce of rational debate anyway.
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Old 30th July 2022, 02:32 AM   #725
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Conspiracy website InfoWars parent files for bankruptcy

The parent of far-right conspiracy website InfoWars filed for U.S. bankruptcy protection on Friday as the company and its founder Alex Jones face up to $150 million in damages in a trial over longstanding falsehoods he perpetuated about the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre.

The bankruptcy filing by the InfoWars parent, Free Speech Systems LLC, would normally result in the trial and related litigation being halted. But Free Speech plans to ask a bankruptcy judge to allow the trial currently underway in Texas to continue and is seeking an emergency hearing on Monday, according to a court filing.

https://www.reuters.com/business/med...cy-2022-07-29/
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Old 30th July 2022, 04:04 AM   #726
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How could he lose?

He’s ‘Effectively Suing Himself’: Alex Jones Files Lawsuit Against His Own Company in Alleged ‘Sham’ Attempt to Derail Sandy Hook Defamation Trial (lawandcrime.com)
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In Connecticut court documents dated Friday, Infowars host Alex Jones sued his own media company in what his opponents have characterized as yet another last-ditch attempt to stall an upcoming defamation damages trial.
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Old 1st August 2022, 12:42 PM   #727
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Originally Posted by angrysoba View Post
Interesting stuff from the Knowledge Fight people...

The hosts of the show that basically tracks all the stuff that Alex Jones has done, are in Austin for the Alex Jones trial.

Jordan has been live-Tweeting the trial.

I think there is a livestream somewhere of the trial as well.

But here he is outside insisting to a journalist that it is the press on trial. The journalist helpfully explains that, no, Alex Jones is on trial.
Jones isn't even on trial, he refused to do what he needed to and lost in summary judgement. This is just to determine what he will have to pay.
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Old 2nd August 2022, 01:45 PM   #728
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Jones on the stand now. Jeez, he sounds rough...

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Sandy Hook parent Scarlett Lewis is directly speaking to Alex Jones, who is now in the courtroom, as she testifies on the stand.

"Jesse was real," Lewis tells Jones. "I am a real mom."

She says she wanted to tell Jones this to his face.

Sandy Hook parent Scarlett Lewis tells Alex Jones that she knows he didn't believe she is actually a deep-state actor.

"I know you know that. That's the problem, I know you know that. But you keep saying it. Why? Why? For money?"

Lewis asks Jones: "Do you have empathy?"

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...105293319.html
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Old 2nd August 2022, 03:42 PM   #730
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Jones blurted out a bunch of conspiratorial crap and managed to say that he didn't even cover Uvalde because of the Sandy Hook thing, and then said there was a lot of weird stuff about that.

Also, he seems to be coughing up a storm. Maybe just because I have Covid right now, I can't help wondering if Jones does and he's coughing all over the court room.
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Old 2nd August 2022, 06:23 PM   #731
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He knows he is in deep doo-doo. He is hoping some miracle will save him from bankruptcy and permanent penury.
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He managed to get the judge pissed off at him, never,ever a good idea.
He is digging his own legal grave. Man is simply stupid.
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Old 2nd August 2022, 09:52 PM   #733
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Originally Posted by angrysoba View Post
Jones blurted out a bunch of conspiratorial crap and managed to say that he didn't even cover Uvalde because of the Sandy Hook thing, and then said there was a lot of weird stuff about that.

Also, he seems to be coughing up a storm. Maybe just because I have Covid right now, I can't help wondering if Jones does and he's coughing all over the court room.
if he does, it would be the fifth or sixth time for him, according to what he said on his show.
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Old 2nd August 2022, 11:50 PM   #734
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The mother of one of the victims, Scarlett Lewis, has set up a foundation called Choose Love, and says she has forgiven Alex Jones, which is amazingly magnanimous of her. Though she also says that even though she has forgiven him, he must face the consequences of what he did to prevent him doing it again, etc... The Opening Arguments lawyer said that for a person like that, who is clearly so sympathetic, only an idiot defence lawyer would try to cross examine her.. So that is exactly what Jones's lawyer did, of course. But the whole time he was doing it, Jones kept getting up to feed his lawyer the questions to ask the bereaved mother on the stand.

Then of course, Jones got up, coughing and spluttering and profusely sweating his way through some mostly irrrelevant nonsense (which the judge put a stop to a few times). The lawyer wanted to get Alex to tell the jury why his voice sounds so gravelly and Jones tried to say his voice got worse after a couple of protests (rather than endless booze, cigarettes, cocaine and Covid), he started talking about Agenda 21 (apparently the world will be enslaved by the New World Order in.... ermm... last year).

Afterwards, Scarlett Lewis even handed Alex Jones a bottle of water to help him with his coughing. So of course, the douchebag (Jones) goes up to the plaintiffs to shake their hands and starts telling them that the tapes incriminating him are selectively edited and that the parents are being manipulated.

The plaintiff's lawyer told Alex Jones to shut his mouth, so Jones started saying, "You'll never shut my mouth!" etc...

There's never any hint that he is genuinely sorry for what he did.

He was also reprimanded by the judge for chewing gum.
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Old 3rd August 2022, 12:42 AM   #735
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The mother of one of the victims, Scarlett Lewis, has set up a foundation called Choose Love, and says she has forgiven Alex Jones, which is amazingly magnanimous of her. Though she also says that even though she has forgiven him, he must face the consequences of what he did to prevent him doing it again, etc... The Opening Arguments lawyer said that for a person like that, who is clearly so sympathetic, only an idiot defence lawyer would try to cross examine her.. So that is exactly what Jones's lawyer did, of course. But the whole time he was doing it, Jones kept getting up to feed his lawyer the questions to ask the bereaved mother on the stand.

Then of course, Jones got up, coughing and spluttering and profusely sweating his way through some mostly irrrelevant nonsense (which the judge put a stop to a few times). The lawyer wanted to get Alex to tell the jury why his voice sounds so gravelly and Jones tried to say his voice got worse after a couple of protests (rather than endless booze, cigarettes, cocaine and Covid), he started talking about Agenda 21 (apparently the world will be enslaved by the New World Order in.... ermm... last year).

Afterwards, Scarlett Lewis even handed Alex Jones a bottle of water to help him with his coughing. So of course, the douchebag (Jones) goes up to the plaintiffs to shake their hands and starts telling them that the tapes incriminating him are selectively edited and that the parents are being manipulated.

The plaintiff's lawyer told Alex Jones to shut his mouth, so Jones started saying, "You'll never shut my mouth!" etc...

There's never any hint that he is genuinely sorry for what he did.

He was also reprimanded by the judge for chewing gum.
Wow, is that a courtroom, or some sort of childish improv event.

In any decent courtroom, they would all be told to sit down, shut up, speak ONLY when they are requested to, and not deviate from the question.
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Old 3rd August 2022, 12:55 AM   #736
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Wow, is that a courtroom, or some sort of childish improv event.

In any decent courtroom, they would all be told to sit down, shut up, speak ONLY when they are requested to, and not deviate from the question.
Well, some of that happened after the judge had left the courtroom.
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Oh, I just remembered one other thing he said. While his own lawyer was asking him about his career and he talked about some globalist depopulation conspiracy theory, he actually cited as evidence that Bill Maher had said it on Real Time the day before.

Not sure if this is some weird tactic to show he truly believes the crap he says.

I'm assuming that if Jones turns up to be cross-examined by the plaintiff's lawyer then the key will be to show how nasty he is as well.
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Sounds like Jones is going for the insanity defense.
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Sounds like Jones is going for the insanity defense.
The other (more likely?) possibility is that he actually is insane.
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Oh, I just remembered one other thing he said. While his own lawyer was asking him about his career and he talked about some globalist depopulation conspiracy theory, he actually cited as evidence that Bill Maher had said it on Real Time the day before.

Not sure if this is some weird tactic to show he truly believes the crap he says.

I'm assuming that if Jones turns up to be cross-examined by the plaintiff's lawyer then the key will be to show how nasty he is as well.
Which is all irrelevant as he lost the chance to make a defense that he is protected by the first amendment. His refusal to turn over documents ordered by the court and all kinds of games like that caused him to lose. Showing repentance and contrition would actually be helpful to him here, but that is something he is incapable of.
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Latest from the Washington Post.

Sandy Hook parents confront Alex Jones, say hoax claims created ‘living hell’

What to make of this, I don't know.

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Jones has previously acknowledged that the shooting took place and blamed his false claims on “a form of psychosis.” He testified Tuesday that he had been waiting to apologize and that his comments had been taken out of context.

So, maybe the "insanity defence" after all?
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Latest from the Washington Post.

Sandy Hook parents confront Alex Jones, say hoax claims created ‘living hell’

What to make of this, I don't know.




So, maybe the "insanity defence" after all?
More like the "I'll just carry on lying through my teeth!" defence.

I doubt Jones actually understands what pyschosis is.
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Which is all irrelevant as he lost the chance to make a defense that he is protected by the first amendment. His refusal to turn over documents ordered by the court and all kinds of games like that caused him to lose. Showing repentance and contrition would actually be helpful to him here, but that is something he is incapable of.
Yes. Indeed. This is a damages trial.

He’s trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that the entire system is against him of course.

Before going to his trial yesterday he said on his program that the judge was a goblin.

Also he has tried to persuade the jury he is bankrupt presumably to leases the damages, but the judge has flatly told him he is not bankrupt and she says that he and his lawyer tried to set up some Q&A to make that statement about bankruptcy and she said the lawyer was responsible for this as he should let his client know what he can and cannot say.

Hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
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Yes. Indeed. This is a damages trial.

He’s trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that the entire system is against him of course.

Before going to his trial yesterday he said on his program that the judge was a goblin.

Also he has tried to persuade the jury he is bankrupt presumably to leases the damages, but the judge has flatly told him he is not bankrupt and she says that he and his lawyer tried to set up some Q&A to make that statement about bankruptcy and she said the lawyer was responsible for this as he should let his client know what he can and cannot say.

Hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
Did he mean she was unattractive or an actual Goblin?
Being this is Alex Jones we're discussing here, I think it needs clarification in that respect.
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Yes. Indeed. This is a damages trial.
Indeed, as much a Jones wants to mount his defense here, he isn't allowed to. The jury has been instructed what the facts of Jones' judgment entail.

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Before going to his trial yesterday he said on his program that the judge was a goblin.
He made some disparaging comments about the jury too, and the plaintiff's counsel is playing video of all that for the jury. This is the most unhinged penalty-phase trial I have ever seen.

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Hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
He has no idea the freight train that's about to hit him. Pro tip: When you're trying to persuade people not to take away a whole lot of your money, maybe don't use your national media platform to disparage them and the judge personally.
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At times in the past, I've fantasized about taking over the mind of someone I truly hate and make them do something so stupid and self-destructive they never bother anyone again. Watching Jones' recent courtroom antics makes me wonder if it's possible someone is now actually doing that to him. Honestly, I don't know how he could possibly make it much worse for himself. His legal team must be apoplectic.

I hope the guy ends up penniless and (more importantly) ignored so he never hurts anyone again.
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Whoops, Jones' incompetent counsel sent plaintiff's attorney a copy of Jones' entire text-message history per discovery, including messages Jones testified under oath didn't exist, or that he didn't have. This is devastating. This has to be the most withering cross-examination I've seen in a long time.
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Whoops, Jones' incompetent counsel sent plaintiff's attorney a copy of Jones' entire text-message history per discovery, including messages Jones testified under oath didn't exist, or that he didn't have. This is devastating. This has to be the most withering cross-examination I've seen in a long time.
This is amazing. InfoWars averaged $800,000 per month in 2018.

They've industrialized conspiracy theories. Jones is cooked.
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Whoops, Jones' incompetent counsel sent plaintiff's attorney a copy of Jones' entire text-message history per discovery, including messages Jones testified under oath didn't exist, or that he didn't have. This is devastating. This has to be the most withering cross-examination I've seen in a long time.


I just heard about this!

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/...9V30UNOIQ&s=19

Seems I discovered how to make new NWO Kitty comics just in time!
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This is amazing. InfoWars averaged $800,000 per month in 2018.

They've industrialized conspiracy theories. Jones is cooked.
I heard $800k per DAY. Figures of $300M per year are being thrown around.
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This is amazing. InfoWars averaged $800,000 per month in 2018.

They've industrialized conspiracy theories. Jones is cooked.
Indeed. After telling everyone that being deplatformed effectively demonetized his Sandy Hook conspiracy efforts, the jury gets to see evidence that he actually made more money than before. Not the thing you want a jury to see when they're seeing how much of your money they give to your victims.
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It's really depressing to know that pushing CT crap can generate that much money.
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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
...Not the thing you want a jury to see when they're seeing how much of your money they give to your victims.
A jury you've been insulting on-air. Is Jones setting up an appeal based on jury non-impartiality? "Of course they were biased against me, after I said they were all ugly and stupid. Who wouldn't be??"
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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
Whoops, Jones' incompetent counsel sent plaintiff's attorney a copy of Jones' entire text-message history per discovery, including messages Jones testified under oath didn't exist, or that he didn't have. This is devastating. This has to be the most withering cross-examination I've seen in a long time.
Incompetent, or they just freaking hate the guy that much.
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This is amazing. InfoWars averaged $800,000 per month in 2018.

They've industrialized conspiracy theories. Jones is cooked.
You don't spell "coked" like that
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Which is all irrelevant as he lost the chance to make a defense that he is protected by the first amendment. His refusal to turn over documents ordered by the court and all kinds of games like that caused him to lose. Showing repentance and contrition would actually be helpful to him here, but that is something he is incapable of.
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Yes. Indeed. This is a damages trial.

He’s trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that the entire system is against him of course.

Before going to his trial yesterday he said on his program that the judge was a goblin.

Also he has tried to persuade the jury he is bankrupt presumably to leases the damages, but the judge has flatly told him he is not bankrupt and she says that he and his lawyer tried to set up some Q&A to make that statement about bankruptcy and she said the lawyer was responsible for this as he should let his client know what he can and cannot say.

Hope he gets taken to the cleaners.
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At times in the past, I've fantasized about taking over the mind of someone I truly hate and make them do something so stupid and self-destructive they never bother anyone again. Watching Jones' recent courtroom antics makes me wonder if it's possible someone is now actually doing that to him. Honestly, I don't know how he could possibly make it much worse for himself. His legal team must be apoplectic.

I hope the guy ends up penniless and (more importantly) ignored so he never hurts anyone again.

well I'll use the words from a poster on another forum

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Some of those texts may be of interest to the Jan 6 Committee

Here’s video of the Perry Mason moment https://twitter.com/goangelo/status/...AlP62OytiNeIkw

ETA Longer and more enjoyable clip here https://twitter.com/bgrueskin/status...AlP62OytiNeIkw

Watch the second one and check out Jones's face when the plaintiff's lawyer says "you may plead the 5th"

Jones might not only be massively fined, but might be jailed for contempt and perjury.

I think he's got away with stuff for so long that he cannot believe he will ever suffer consequences.
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If he wasn't already truly ******, he sure is now!

Alex Jones’ Damning Texts ACCIDENTALLY Sent to Sandy Hook Lawyer


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A day after far-right conspiracy-monger Alex Jones was scolded by a judge for chewing gum in the courtroom, opposing lawyers dropped a bombshell revelation they said proved the embattled InfoWars host has been lying on the stand.

Jones testified on Wednesday for the second time in attempting to fend off one of many defamation lawsuits brought by families affected by the Sandy Hook massacre. They are seeking at least $150 million from Jones and his bankrupt media company, Free Speech Systems. Numerous parents of children killed in the 2012 school shooting blame Jones for spreading falsehoods and disinformation about the tragedy that brought on ceaseless abuse, harassment, and death threats.

On Tuesday, Jones insisted, under oath, that he had fully complied with the court’s discovery process, and that there were no text messages on his phone in which he discussed Sandy Hook, as the other side had requested.

On Wednesday, attorney Mark Bankston informed a seemingly stunned Jones that he had evidence this was untrue.

“Did you know [that] 12 days ago your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone, with every text message you’ve sent for the past two years?” he asked. “And when informed, [they] did not take any steps to identify it as privileged, or protected in any way?”

“This is your Perry Mason moment,” an obviously shocked Jones responded.

Bankston continued, “In discovery, you were asked if you had Sandy Hook text messages on your phone, and you said, ‘No.’ Correct?” Bankston asked. “You said that under oath.”

Jones replied, “If I was mistaken, I was mistaken. You’ve got the text messages right there.”

“You know what perjury is, right?” Bankston shot back. “I just want to make sure before we go any further... You testified under oath that you personally searched your phone for the phrase ‘Sandy Hook,’ and [said] there were no messages...You lied.”

“No, I did not lie,” Jones answered.

Previously, Jones testified that he didn’t use email so he would not be providing any during discovery. However, Bankston stunned Jones again on Wednesday by displaying his own emails as evidence—which also came from Jones’ phone.

“You’d agree these are emails you sent to your lawyers, your staff, and others, concerning your business operations, Sandy Hook, [and] other topics… ?”

Jones responded, “This is ridiculous.”
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If he wasn't already truly ******, he sure is now!

Alex Jones’ Damning Texts ACCIDENTALLY Sent to Sandy Hook Lawyer
PLEASE watch Jones's face in the second clip I posted immediately before you. I think you will appreciate it

When the plaintiffs' lawyer says "you may plead the fifth"

Jones looks to realise that this is not a civil matter but a criminal one.


I've watched it several times.


ETA: also this for a bit of the leadup

https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetwork/...78549319946242
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And I like the judge. I gather that she's not the one deciding the damages, but she is letting the jury see her views of the antics of Jones and his lawyers
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Watch the second one and check out Jones's face when the plaintiff's lawyer says "you may plead the 5th"http://https://twitter.com/oneunders...508060160?s=21

Jones might not only be massively fined, but might be jailed for contempt and perjury.

I think he's got away with stuff for so long that he cannot believe he will ever suffer consequences.
This is completely astonishing.

Nice thread here about the money and the text messages and, no surprise really, even the coughing by Jones is apparently a fake bid for sympathy.

Link: https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/...508060160?s=21

Alex Jones’s ex-wife has also chimed in to say she wants to subpoena the digital copy of the phone.

Also will be interesting for Jan 6th trial.

Holy ****** He is done like a kipper!
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