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7th January 2021, 08:32 AM | #1 |
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Trump’s Coup - Part 2
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This has been the Trump's apologist (including the ones who screech "Don't call me a Trump supporter! How dare you!" the loudest) game for a while.
"Trump's going to do this." "Oh he's not going to do it. Stop being overdramatic and hyperbolic." "Okay well... I mean he literally just did it." "No he didn't really do it because (pointless semantic excuse) and me being super hyper-focused on your less than mathematically perfect language while ignoring what Trump is doing is both super important and has no ulterior motive." |
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7th January 2021, 08:59 AM | #3 |
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What about the guy who wore his work badge to it?
https://twitter.com/RebelArt5/status...56434799104001 |
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These are not people who are afraid of reprisals.
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7th January 2021, 09:25 AM | #8 |
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Well I think the coup is truly over, the big boys have stepped in and said “enough”...
Amazing all these brave people standing up to Trump, this really will hamper Trump’s last 13 days in office. |
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7th January 2021, 09:29 AM | #9 |
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Well, she was climbing head-first through a relatively narrow window, and when she was shot, immediately fell back through the window, so her center of mass was clearly still behind the door, so her head/neck was probably the biggest target available. If she were to be shot anywhere, it would almost certainly have been in the head or neck, because there wasn't much else there. |
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7th January 2021, 09:29 AM | #10 |
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I love this handwringing over whether the mob could be effective. Is it really that hard to imagine what might have happened if some of the armed members of the mob had managed to get hold of people their God Emperor had told them were enemies? We know how lousy the security was on the perimeter of an entire branch of our government. It was obviously only luck that the internal security was good enough to get that branch of government to safety.
Had Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats been killed by the mob, I wonder if we'd have as much hair-splitting over what we're allowed to call this event... |
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Of course, odds are probably high that there will be a blanket pardon coming down for anyone and everyone in the mob....
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7th January 2021, 09:41 AM | #14 |
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7th January 2021, 09:42 AM | #15 |
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A tweet by the UK politician Jeremy Hunt;
https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/stat...17883490668546 "America is the world's biggest, most important democracy, a shining light on the hill for freedom. Pres Trump told a crowd to march on Capitol Hill & turned on his VP for upholding the law. He shames American democracy tonight & causes its friends anguish but he is not America" 1 - India is the world's biggest democracy, not the USA. That matters not as size is not an indicator of success. 2 - in no measure on any index is the USA the worlds greatest democracy. It ranks below many countries when it comes to democratic functioning and freedoms. 3 - Trumps actions have seriously damaged the US worlds standing and countries considered a threat to world democracy and freedoms, primarily Russia and China must be laughing their heads off. 4 - Trump is still a large part of America, we cannot kid ourselves he is not. What Trump has fired up is far from over and the internal splits in the USA may never heal. Instead of this being the end, it is more likely a continuation of his influence over many Americans. |
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Sure, but do you think these nutbars wouldn't settle for taking any enemy politician they happened to come across? And let's not forget that among these people were Q believers who might see their violence as justified since the entire Democratic Party is complicit in the murder of untold numbers of children (and I'm not referring to abortion).
The bottom line? I wonder how many members of this joint session would have had to die before the word "coup" stopped being objectionable. |
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7th January 2021, 09:58 AM | #19 |
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It's hard to keep up with all the false flags.
So far, it seems that rioters were secretly Antifa infiltrators making the noble patriots look bad (by doing exactly what they've been saying for weeks they were going to do) unless they got shot, in which case they're heroic martyrs. But with Proud Boys saying they were going to turn up cosplaying as Antifa and Antifa saying they were going to do the same in reverse, I wonder how far this role-swapping goes. Maybe it's worse than you think. Is it possible that absolutely everyone else is a secret false flag agent for the opposite side? Did in fact Trump genuinely obtain a crushing landslide victory at the election except that his role-playing voters all went a bit too method and voted for Biden, and vice versa? |
7th January 2021, 10:03 AM | #20 |
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Another right wing terrorist safe in his stupidity and privilege confessing to felonies on live television and who probably slept in his own bed last night:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ugarles/s...85940829556736 |
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I'm not sure what your point is here, because India's leadership is as bad as America's. So is Brazil's, and Pakistan, Nigeria and Indonesia aren't exactly great role models.
The only inference I can take from that is that very large democracy doesn't serve the people. China will be delighted. Yeah, but they've got that whole "sole superpower" thing going for them. I can see the logic in referring to it as the greatest, simply on its position as former leader of the free world. Will be again next month. [quote=Nessie;13351251]3 - Trumps actions have seriously damaged the US worlds standing and countries considered a threat to world democracy and freedoms, primarily Russia and China must be laughing their heads off.]/QUOTE] I hear you could hear Vlad's laughter from Ukraine - he'll be lapping it up. As to the world standing, you've got the luxury of a very low base and now you have the wildly-popular Obama presidency Veep in charge, if you take a poll next month you'll find the damage has been completely reversed. Nah - you've already seen all the rats desert that ship. What he's done is narrowed his support down to the small minority of people of human garbage. No sane Republican will support him now, and it's all gone to prove just how absurdly stupid Trump is. Did he really think a bunch of rednecks could seize the government? Why, yes he did, and in the process has destroyed any chance of re-election. It's the best possible end to his presidency - alone, threatened with removal for being unfit for office, utterly broken. |
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"It's a revolution" she says. In a wounded tone which implies the authorities who maced her fail to grasp this. I mean, you're not supposed to oppose a revolution, are you? The revolution* is the goodies.
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Grandkid: Grandma I’ve got to do a report on the civil war of the 2020s, I know you helped defeat the first coup attempt, what did you do.
Grandma: Well I turned to your Grandpa and said enough was enough, I logged in and set Trump’s Facebook account to :”Banned”. |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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So the officer who shot the insurrectionist dead has been suspended pending investigation, no word of course on his colleagues who practically gave the others a guided tour and posed for photographs. This is probably the one police shooting where being in fear of his life should be a totally acceptable defence and I look forward to this being dropped without charges in the same way other officers across the USA have been, unless of course it has to be an unarmed black person for the police officer to get a pass?
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7th January 2021, 11:04 AM | #35 |
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About how many people attended the rally?
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Also check what was being livestreamed on facebook and by whom at that time
I am thinking about this nice character, who knows enough to hide his face, but does have a mobile presumably to film his antics https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErI1ne4X...jpg&name=small |
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I have not seen any estimates more precise than "stadium-sized crowd". There were initially three different events scheduled at different places, so they were spread out a bit.
That about fit with what I saw on the various live feeds I was watching yesterday - dense crowds mulling around at barricades, but not more than 15-20 people thick from front to back, lots of open space behind all that. I would not be surprised to find out that less than 5000 were actually at the Capitol itself. All of the law enforcement agencies in D.C. have many times handled much larger groups of belligerent people, they have the experience, the equipment, training, budget and manpower to handle this sort of thing. The leadership failed to apply any of that. |
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