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Old 3rd December 2017, 01:22 PM   #1
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Politicians withholding medical conditions

Rewatching the West Wing after a while. For those of you who haven't seen it, the President withholds from the public when running for President that he has relapsing remitting MS. It starts a debate as to whether he needs to disclose , whether it was ethical etc etc.

Would you care? If not, what would you care about? Or do you want complete transparency from your politicians? If your leader was suffering from severe, severe depression, do you think this should be known?
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Old 4th December 2017, 04:24 AM   #2
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I don't have a high opinion of politicians (and politics) in general.
In Denmark I've hears several rumors, and sometimes they've been confirmed by reliable sources, about politicians with minor mental disorders. Depression doesn't seem to be unusual - like in the rest of the population.

In the UK, Churchill is probably the most famous example. I don't know who knew at the time.

Even a pretty extreme case of narcissism doesn't seem to be an obstacle if you want to run for president in the USA.
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Old 4th December 2017, 05:04 AM   #3
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The article linked to tells us that we may wel have benefited from Churchill’s bipolarism.
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Old 4th December 2017, 05:23 AM   #4
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If that condition was truly relevant, it would come out in the way the leader does their job. If the leader can perform as a Head Of State, then their physical / mental health is their own concern. This is especially important when we consider that disabled people face a lot of discrimination in our society, and a lot of that discrimination is based on ignorance and superstition.

So no...no, there should be no mandatory disclosure.
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Old 5th December 2017, 02:20 AM   #5
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As a rule, no, that's part of their private life. Exceptions would include terminal illnesses or neurodegenerative ones like Alzheimer's that could severely impair judgment as the term progresses.

Mental illnesses are tough. Depression no. Bipolar no, if it's reasonably well-managed. On the other hand even a mild case of schizophrenia should probably be disclosed.
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Old 5th December 2017, 09:49 AM   #6
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Harold Wilson and Reagan had senile dementia. That is thought to be the reason why Harold Wilson resigned, though there were rumours flying around then with that Spycatcher book that Wilson was a KGB agent, rather like Trump now. There is a story that Churchill suffered a stroke in the 1950s, but it was hushed up by the British media in some kind of agreement, or D Notice. The trouble is these people had their fingers on the nuclear button.
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Old 5th December 2017, 10:18 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
Harold Wilson and Reagan had senile dementia. That is thought to be the reason why Harold Wilson resigned, though there were rumours flying around then with that Spycatcher book that Wilson was a KGB agent, rather like Trump now. There is a story that Churchill suffered a stroke in the 1950s, but it was hushed up by the British media in some kind of agreement, or D Notice. The trouble is these people had their fingers on the nuclear button.
Pretty sure Churchill didn't have a nuclear potion available to him. Have to wonder what might have happened if he did?
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Old 5th December 2017, 10:30 AM   #8
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Pretty sure Churchill didn't have a nuclear potion available to him. Have to wonder what might have happened if he did?
Blue Danube went into service in 1954, and Churchill went out of service in 1955, so he had control of a few nukes for a short time. Not sure whether they'd actually have worked though.

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