2020 Congressional Election - Page 5

Segnosaur · 5th January 2021, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

It looks like DeKalb has not reported any absentee ballots. Maybe they wait until they are all processed before reporting.

Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th January 2021, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Looks like Warnock has it.

Because of recent history, I'm just not willing to accept yet that "Ossoff has it" while Ossoff is still behind in the count, regardless of where the remaining votes are coming from. Once he's ahead, I'll consider him ahead.

I understand. When it was just the polls or the earlier voting I wasn't sure Ossoff was actually going to win.

Now I think it's a relatively safe bet.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th January 2021, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms.

You can bet someone will sell Trump on this idea.

DevilsAdvocate · 5th January 2021, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

It looks like DeKalb has not reported any absentee ballots. Maybe they wait until they are all processed before reporting. There will probably be a big jump for the Dems when those results come in.

It appears to just be some issue with the data the NYT has. It shows the total votes, then it also shows the absentee votes, but that is just a subset of the total. So no new big dump of votes; probably they just don't have a breakdown of how many of the total are absentee.

Segnosaur · 5th January 2021, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I understand. When it was just the polls or the earlier voting I wasn't sure Ossoff was actually going to win.

Now I think it's a relatively safe bet.

I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls.

So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats.

timhau · 5th January 2021, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms.

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

You can bet someone will sell Trump on this idea.

Not only that, but someone will also provide eyewitness affidavits for Democrat vans full of ballots.

And then the evidence will be sent to Tucker Carlson and get lost in the mail.

dirtywick · 5th January 2021, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls.

So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats.

I don't think they would have taken both in November. What happened between November and now is why they lost.

Segnosaur · 5th January 2021, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

Quote:

I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls.

So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats.

I don't think they would have taken both in November. What happened between November and now is why they lost.

Actually when I talked about the lost opportunity for the Democrats to win senate seats in November, I wasn't referring to Georgia... I was referring to Maine (where republican Collins was extremely unpopular) and North Carolina (where there were multiple predictions that the state would flip to the Democrats). But both senate seats stayed Republican. Those losses were the most annoying.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th January 2021, 11:39 PM

I thought they had stopped counting but maybe they decided to power through the ballots.

Now both Democrats are ahead. And the NYT has officially called the race for Warnock.

bobdroege7 · 5th January 2021, 11:43 PM

Who is the most powerful person in the world?

Stacyhs · 5th January 2021, 11:52 PM

CNN has just called it for Warnock.

Stacyhs · 5th January 2021, 11:54 PM

If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority?

DevilsAdvocate · 5th January 2021, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority?

Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority.

Firestone · 6th January 2021, 12:01 AM

Good Morning America!

Dave Wasserman calls the race for Ossoff!!!

Quote:

I've seen enough. Jon Ossoff (D) defeats Sen. David Perdue (R) in GA's other Senate runoff. #GASEN

Democrats win control of the Senate.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...81326934650880

(Twitter slaps a warning on his tweet, because the networks haven't called the race yet, but I fully trust Wasserman's legendary "I've seen enough".)

timhau · 6th January 2021, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

CNN has just called it for Warnock.

As did NYT. Ossoff is ahead by ca. 3500 votes.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority.

I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before?

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:04 AM

2020 sucked big time in more ways than I can say, both personally and worldwide. But this is starting off 2021 great!

Firestone · 6th January 2021, 12:05 AM

Stephen Breyer consulting his retirement planner right now!

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before?

Yes and yes.

Take that McConnell! You can't block Biden's cabinet. You can't block Pelosi's 100+ bills sitting on your desk. They will at least get a vote.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Yes and yes.

Take that McConnell! You can't block Biden's cabinet. You can't block Pelosi's 100+ bills sitting on your desk. They will at least get a vote.

Correct

WAPO says "The Constitution makes the vice president the president of the Senate, with the power to cast the decisive vote in cases of a tie."

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:21 AM

And the Demcoratic Wind swept through Georgia......

DevilsAdvocate · 6th January 2021, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before?

She counts in determining the majority. There have been 50/50 splits in the past. VP Cheney was the determining factor back in the mid 2000s.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

She counts in determining the majority. There have been 50/50 splits in the past. VP Cheney was the determining factor back in the mid 2000s.

SHHHHHHHH.....don't say his name 3X!!!!

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And the Demcoratic Wind swept through Georgia......

That will put a little wrench in tomorrow's festivities.

Segnosaur · 6th January 2021, 12:26 AM

Remember the good old days when Trump was bragging about how valuable his endorsement was in getting Republicans elected?

I wonder how that's working out for him these days.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

That will put a little wrench in tomorrow's festivities.

If Ossof wins, the GOP senate majority will be gone with the wind.

dirtywick · 6th January 2021, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Actually when I talked about the lost opportunity for the Democrats to win senate seats in November, I wasn't referring to Georgia... I was referring to Maine (where republican Collins was extremely unpopular) and North Carolina (where there were multiple predictions that the state would flip to the Democrats). But both senate seats stayed Republican. Those losses were the most annoying.

Losing SC to Lindsey Graham was also disappointing.

BazBear · 6th January 2021, 12:38 AM

Poor Kelly's gonna have to console herself by objecting the EC votes tomorrow... traitorous *word for female dog*.

BazBear · 6th January 2021, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

If Ossof wins, the GOP senate majority will be gone with the wind.

Yep, and Chuck will be calling the shots if this holds

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:40 AM

I wish I could see Mitch McConnell's reaction right now.

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority?

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before?

Somebody on Twitter said Joe Manchin, but maybe that's a joke because he is known to be the most conservative Democrat, right? So maybe the joke is that everyone wants to court his vote.

smartcooky · 6th January 2021, 12:41 AM

So, I have a question

Warnock has been called, and Ossoff looks increasingly likely to win given that most of the remaining votes are from counties that run heavily D. If this does happen, that will leave the Senate 50-50 with VP Harris having the casting vote.

My question is, what happens in the Senate subcommitees (Judiciary, Intelligence etc)? Those committees have a membership made up of one extra majority member, and where the chairman is from the Senate majority party, but if the Senate is 50-50, who chairs this committees, and who has the casting vote?

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:44 AM

Ossoff is now 9527 votes ahead of Perdue with all remaining votes coming in from heavily leaning Dem counties.

Firestone · 6th January 2021, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Somebody on Twitter said Joe Manchin, but maybe that's a joke because he is known to be the most conservative Democrat, right? So maybe the joke is that everyone wants to court his vote.

While it's a joke, I do think that Manchin, Sinema, Kelly (AZ), Tester, Romney, Murkowski, will be quite powerful in the new 50-50 Senate.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:58 AM

Ossoff now has over 12,000 more votes than Perdue.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Ossoff now has over 12,000 more votes than Perdue.

And most of the uncounted votes are in heavily Blue areas.
Mitch Must be getting really, really, nervous.

dirtywick · 6th January 2021, 01:06 AM

both of trumps candidates losing is pretty disastrous for his post presidency prospects

timhau · 6th January 2021, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Ossoff now has over 12,000 more votes than Perdue.

How many ballots can you carry in one Ossoff van?

Just wondering, because according to NYT election commentary, the Perdue campaign claim they won and will use "every available resource and exhaust every recourse to ensure all legally cast ballots are properly counted”.

Maybe GEICO should bring back those "It's what you do" commercials?

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

So, I have a question

Warnock has been called, and Ossoff looks increasingly likely to win given that most of the remaining votes are from counties that run heavily D. If this does happen, that will leave the Senate 50-50 with VP Harris having the casting vote.

My question is, what happens in the Senate subcommitees (Judiciary, Intelligence etc)? Those committees have a membership made up of one extra majority member, and where the chairman is from the Senate majority party, but if the Senate is 50-50, who chairs this committees, and who has the casting vote?

The Democrats have the majority, same rules apply.

Firestone · 6th January 2021, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

How many ballots can you carry in one Ossoff van?

Just wondering, because according to NYT election commentary, the Perdue campaign claim they won and will use "every available resource and exhaust every recourse to ensure all legally cast ballots are properly counted”.

Maybe GEICO should bring back those "It's what you do" commercials?

(bolding mine)

Raising the question of when Ossoff will be seated.
As long as he isn't, McConnell remains "majority" leader.

(Data point: Al Franken, in 2009, was seated on July 7th, 8 months after the election.)

5th January 2021, 10:58 PM	#161
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,371	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate It looks like DeKalb has not reported any absentee ballots. Maybe they wait until they are all processed before reporting. Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms.
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5th January 2021, 11:06 PM	#164
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,637	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate It looks like DeKalb has not reported any absentee ballots. Maybe they wait until they are all processed before reporting. There will probably be a big jump for the Dems when those results come in. It appears to just be some issue with the data the NYT has. It shows the total votes, then it also shows the absentee votes, but that is just a subset of the total. So no new big dump of votes; probably they just don't have a breakdown of how many of the total are absentee.
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5th January 2021, 11:10 PM	#165
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,371	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I understand. When it was just the polls or the earlier voting I wasn't sure Ossoff was actually going to win. Now I think it's a relatively safe bet. I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls. So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats.
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5th January 2021, 11:16 PM	#166
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,514	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms. Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger You can bet someone will sell Trump on this idea. Not only that, but someone will also provide eyewitness affidavits for Democrat vans full of ballots. And then the evidence will be sent to Tucker Carlson and get lost in the mail.
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5th January 2021, 11:19 PM	#167
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by Segnosaur I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls. So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats. I don't think they would have taken both in November. What happened between November and now is why they lost.
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5th January 2021, 11:00 PM	#162
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88,032	Originally Posted by Checkmite Looks like Warnock has it. Because of recent history, I'm just not willing to accept yet that "Ossoff has it" while Ossoff is still behind in the count, regardless of where the remaining votes are coming from. Once he's ahead, I'll consider him ahead. I understand. When it was just the polls or the earlier voting I wasn't sure Ossoff was actually going to win. Now I think it's a relatively safe bet.

5th January 2021, 11:01 PM	#163
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88,032	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Maybe they are waiting for the delivery of the fake mail-in ballots, delivered in a truck with the Democratic party's logo on it, driven personally by Biden and Stacy Abrahms. You can bet someone will sell Trump on this idea.

5th January 2021, 11:36 PM	#168
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,371	Originally Posted by dirtywick Quote: I had doubts going into the election because, well, the November elections were a major disappointment.... Even though Biden won the whitehouse, he didn't manage to flip Texas (admittedly a longshot) or Florida. The Democrats lost house seats, and failed to win several senate elections where they were leading in the polls. So, I was very pessimistic that the Democrats could take both Georgia seats. I don't think they would have taken both in November. What happened between November and now is why they lost. Actually when I talked about the lost opportunity for the Democrats to win senate seats in November, I wasn't referring to Georgia... I was referring to Maine (where republican Collins was extremely unpopular) and North Carolina (where there were multiple predictions that the state would flip to the Democrats). But both senate seats stayed Republican. Those losses were the most annoying.
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5th January 2021, 11:39 PM	#169
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88,032	I thought they had stopped counting but maybe they decided to power through the ballots. Now both Democrats are ahead. And the NYT has officially called the race for Warnock.
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5th January 2021, 11:43 PM	#170
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5th January 2021, 11:52 PM	#171
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	CNN has just called it for Warnock.

5th January 2021, 11:54 PM	#172
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority?

5th January 2021, 11:56 PM	#173
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,637	Originally Posted by Stacyhs If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority? Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority.
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6th January 2021, 12:01 AM	#174
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,998	Good Morning America! Dave Wasserman calls the race for Ossoff!!! Quote: I've seen enough. Jon Ossoff (D) defeats Sen. David Perdue (R) in GA's other Senate runoff. #GASEN Democrats win control of the Senate. https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...81326934650880 (Twitter slaps a warning on his tweet, because the networks haven't called the race yet, but I fully trust Wasserman's legendary "I've seen enough".)
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6th January 2021, 12:01 AM	#175
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,514	Originally Posted by Stacyhs CNN has just called it for Warnock. As did NYT. Ossoff is ahead by ca. 3500 votes.
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6th January 2021, 12:02 AM	#176
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority. I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before?

6th January 2021, 12:04 AM	#177
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	2020 sucked big time in more ways than I can say, both personally and worldwide. But this is starting off 2021 great!

6th January 2021, 12:05 AM	#178
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6th January 2021, 12:07 AM	#179
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88,032	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before? Yes and yes. Take that McConnell! You can't block Biden's cabinet. You can't block Pelosi's 100+ bills sitting on your desk. They will at least get a vote.
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6th January 2021, 12:12 AM	#180
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Yes and yes. Take that McConnell! You can't block Biden's cabinet. You can't block Pelosi's 100+ bills sitting on your desk. They will at least get a vote. Correct WAPO says "The Constitution makes the vice president the president of the Senate, with the power to cast the decisive vote in cases of a tie."

6th January 2021, 12:21 AM	#181
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6th January 2021, 12:21 AM	#182
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,637	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before? She counts in determining the majority. There have been 50/50 splits in the past. VP Cheney was the determining factor back in the mid 2000s.
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6th January 2021, 12:22 AM	#183
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate She counts in determining the majority. There have been 50/50 splits in the past. VP Cheney was the determining factor back in the mid 2000s. SHHHHHHHH.....don't say his name 3X!!!!

6th January 2021, 12:23 AM	#184
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88,032	Originally Posted by dudalb And the Demcoratic Wind swept through Georgia...... That will put a little wrench in tomorrow's festivities.

6th January 2021, 12:26 AM	#185
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,371	Remember the good old days when Trump was bragging about how valuable his endorsement was in getting Republicans elected? I wonder how that's working out for him these days.
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6th January 2021, 12:27 AM	#186
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,661	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger That will put a little wrench in tomorrow's festivities. If Ossof wins, the GOP senate majority will be gone with the wind.
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6th January 2021, 12:28 AM	#187
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Actually when I talked about the lost opportunity for the Democrats to win senate seats in November, I wasn't referring to Georgia... I was referring to Maine (where republican Collins was extremely unpopular) and North Carolina (where there were multiple predictions that the state would flip to the Democrats). But both senate seats stayed Republican. Those losses were the most annoying. Losing SC to Lindsey Graham was also disappointing.
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6th January 2021, 12:38 AM	#188
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6th January 2021, 12:40 AM	#189
BazBear Possible Suspect Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stowe VT USA Posts: 2,865	Originally Posted by dudalb If Ossof wins, the GOP senate majority will be gone with the wind. Yep, and Chuck will be calling the shots if this holds
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6th January 2021, 12:40 AM	#190
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	I wish I could see Mitch McConnell's reaction right now.

6th January 2021, 12:41 AM	#191
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,649	Originally Posted by Stacyhs If Ossoff wins, as he may well do, and the Senate is 50-50, who will be the Majority Leader as there is no majority? Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Senate ties are broke by the President of the Senate, which is the Vice President, which will be Kamala Harris. So Democrats would be the majority. Originally Posted by Stacyhs I understand that ties are broken by the VP but as she's not a senator I wondered if she would count to make the Dems the majority party. Has here ever been a 50-50 Senate split before? Somebody on Twitter said Joe Manchin, but maybe that's a joke because he is known to be the most conservative Democrat, right? So maybe the joke is that everyone wants to court his vote.
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6th January 2021, 12:41 AM	#192
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 17,261	So, I have a question Warnock has been called, and Ossoff looks increasingly likely to win given that most of the remaining votes are from counties that run heavily D. If this does happen, that will leave the Senate 50-50 with VP Harris having the casting vote. My question is, what happens in the Senate subcommitees (Judiciary, Intelligence etc)? Those committees have a membership made up of one extra majority member, and where the chairman is from the Senate majority party, but if the Senate is 50-50, who chairs this committees, and who has the casting vote?
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6th January 2021, 12:44 AM	#193
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,248	Ossoff is now 9527 votes ahead of Perdue with all remaining votes coming in from heavily leaning Dem counties.

6th January 2021, 12:45 AM	#194
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,998	Originally Posted by angrysoba Somebody on Twitter said Joe Manchin, but maybe that's a joke because he is known to be the most conservative Democrat, right? So maybe the joke is that everyone wants to court his vote. While it's a joke, I do think that Manchin, Sinema, Kelly (AZ), Tester, Romney, Murkowski, will be quite powerful in the new 50-50 Senate.
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6th January 2021, 12:58 AM	#195
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