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Old 1st May 2020, 10:33 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by pharphis View Post
No one denies this.

Could an "average man" beat the best of women? Usually not. Could someone of above average capability (not extraordinary), some motivation and a bit of training do so (perhaps someone who is a transwoman)?

Probably.

I certainly don't think trans folk will "dominate" as I acknowledge they're very rare within society... but it only takes a few to overcome records and to ruin some competitions.
Only if you think a transwoman is not a woman. Otherwise it is an impressive accomplishment in women's sports.
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Old 1st May 2020, 10:43 AM   #242
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Only if you think a transwoman is not a woman. Otherwise it is an impressive accomplishment in women's sports.
Even though I think a transwoman is a woman, I don't think it's an impressive accomplishment. What makes you say it's impressive?
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:15 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Even though I think a transwoman is a woman, I don't think it's an impressive accomplishment. What makes you say it's impressive?
Because it is breaking a record and that is generally sufficient to find something impressive.

(also the being willing to compete while taking a mound of crap from people hostile to her existence... sort of a Jackie Robinson thing)
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:38 AM   #244
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Only if you think a transwoman is not a woman. Otherwise it is an impressive accomplishment in women's sports.
How do you figure it's impressive for a male-bodied person to dominate in a women's sport? If a male-bodied person who identified as a man broke a women's record, would you find that impressive?

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Because it is breaking a record and that is generally sufficient to find something impressive.
Same question to you: would you find it impressive if a male-bodied person who identified as a man broke a women's record?
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Old 1st May 2020, 12:05 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat View Post
How do you figure it's impressive for a male-bodied person to dominate in a women's sport? If a male-bodied person who identified as a man broke a women's record, would you find that impressive?


Same question to you: would you find it impressive if a male-bodied person who identified as a man broke a women's record?
It isn't the body that makes it impressive. I don't care when some someone sets a weightlifting record for their weight class. It is solely the matter of gender identity that makes it interesting to me.
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Old 1st May 2020, 01:27 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
It isn't the body that makes it impressive. I don't care when some someone sets a weightlifting record for their weight class. It is solely the matter of gender identity that makes it interesting to me.
Would you find it impressive if a heavyweight set a record in the welterweight division?
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Old 1st May 2020, 02:56 PM   #247
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Would you find it impressive if a heavyweight set a record in the welterweight division?
I don't find welterweight records interesting.
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Old 1st May 2020, 03:40 PM   #248
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Because it is breaking a record and that is generally sufficient to find something impressive.
Indeed. Such as when an under 15ís team beat a USA national soccer team 5-2. Whether it was the USA menís or womenís soccer team doesnít change how impressive it was.
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Old 1st May 2020, 05:11 PM   #249
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Indeed. Such as when an under 15ís team beat a USA national soccer team 5-2. Whether it was the USA menís or womenís soccer team doesnít change how impressive it was.
In 2016, a team of 15-year-old boys defeated the Australian women's national women's team 7-0
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Old 1st May 2020, 05:56 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I don't find welterweight records interesting.
She didn't ask if it was interesting, she asked if it was impressive.
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Originally Posted by Roboramma View Post
She didn't ask if it was interesting, she asked if it was impressive.
Originally Posted by Emily's Cat View Post
Would you find it impressive if a heavyweight set a record in the welterweight division?
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Even though I think a transwoman is a woman, I don't think it's an impressive accomplishment. What makes you say it's impressive?
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:35 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by Roboramma View Post
She didn't ask if it was interesting, she asked if it was impressive.
I don't think it is impressive
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:36 PM   #253
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I don't think it is impressive
Good. I think that was the point.
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:44 PM   #254
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Originally Posted by Roboramma View Post
Good. I think that was the point.
Why? Because I don't find weight class an interesting distinction? I can't be impressed if I don't care.

Separately, now I'm not sure a bunch of sporting accomplishments are impressive. It seems a lot of sporting activity is shaped around activities compatible with our evolved form. It isn't that impressive that you ran fast with a body evolved to run. Maybe the only impressive thing out there is people doing things that is not compatible with our bodies, like people who set guineas world records for bear walking.

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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Maybe the only impressive thing out there is people doing things that is not compatible with our bodies, like people who set guineas world records for bear walking.
No, like leaping off a cliff with nothing but your clothing. That is impressive for doing things that are not compatible with our evolved bodies. Anything else is doing something that your body was evolved to do.
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Old 2nd May 2020, 05:55 AM   #256
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No, like leaping off a cliff with nothing but your clothing. That is impressive for doing things that are not compatible with our evolved bodies. Anything else is doing something that your body was evolved to do.
It is so awesome that I found someone with the same idea.i might start direct messaging you later to share sports that are interesting to watch.
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In 2016, a team of 15-year-old boys defeated the Australian women's national women's team 7-0

I guess that disproves Oscar Wilde's aphorism.
Too bad, I always liked it. (The aphorism, not football.)
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Old 2nd May 2020, 01:16 PM   #258
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Because it is breaking a record and that is generally sufficient to find something impressive.
Only because we take the usual context of record-breaking for granted. Obviously that's not reasonable in this case.

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(also the being willing to compete while taking a mound of crap from people hostile to her existence... sort of a Jackie Robinson thing)
(that Jackie Robinson thing where he dunked on a Little League team and was hailed for his barrier-breaking record breaking?)
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Old 28th July 2020, 04:55 AM   #259
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Look, its just very important to have a strong government that controls what people do in their private lives. After all, that is what the GOP stands for right?
No.
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