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Old 9th May 2022, 11:07 PM   #121
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Sad. I almost feel sorry for her. But not too sorry. She is the author of her own downfall.
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What a waste of a life that, up until she met him, seemed to be on the rails.

True love eh?
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The heart wants what it wants I suppose. But sometimes the brain has to overrule the heart.
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Find it funny the statement they got from the Sheriff:

"....It's hard to believe they've been here that many days, but we're lucky that we stumbled upon them today......,"

Good to know it was great police work that resulted in them being captured!
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Catsmate suggests this view has now been debunked.
It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?
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It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?
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It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?
I cited a link showing it's not debunked (after correcting the XYY vs XXY typo). What are you citing to contradict that?
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I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:

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Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Sad. I almost feel sorry for her. But not too sorry. She is the author of her own downfall.
To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.
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To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.
You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail?
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You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail?
Not much of a gotcha cause she failed in that regard too
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I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:



Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.
Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out.
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I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:



Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.
Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up?
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Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out.
Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it.

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Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up?
Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already.

They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say.

He also referred to her as "my wife":

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The U.S. Marshals Service said when Casey White came out of the car, he exclaimed: "Please help my wife. She just shot herself in the head, and I didn’t do it."
It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says.
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//crazy theory//

Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court?
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Also, "wife" may have been a Hail Mary distraction on the off chance the police didn't know who they really were and were chasing them on something else.

Or, dude was nuts (long shot, I know) and considered she and he spiritually bonded or some crazy ****.

Eta: a legit quickie marriage might be problematic from an ID point of view
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//crazy theory//

Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court?
I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards.

She was hit with a few fraud charges.

I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that.

I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her.
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To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.
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Some more minor details starting to come to light.

- Vicki White was on the phone with 911 during some or all of the chase. The details of that call have not, at this time to the best of my knowledge, been made public.
- Casey White has waived an extradiction hearing, saying he "wants to go back to Arkansas."
- Several weapons, wigs, and about 29,000 dollars in cash were on the couple's person or in the vehicle when they were captured.
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Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works.
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Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops?

They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up.

I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods.
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Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops?

They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up.
I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon.

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I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there somewhere, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods.
This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash.
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I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon.
From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range.

I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily.

I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye.

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This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash.
Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol.
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From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range.

I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily.

I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye.



Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol.
Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.
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Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.
Sure, anything is possible.
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Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.
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And…Ms. White has died.
Oh dear. So she never made it to the 'trials and errors' thread. Bye then, Vicky White.
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Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it.



Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already.

They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say.

He also referred to her as "my wife":



It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says.
She probably called herself that.
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I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards.

She was hit with a few fraud charges.

I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that.

I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her.
Not really. She was a complete control freak IMV.
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Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works.
He is not very bright.
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Old 11th May 2022, 01:07 AM   #152
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Police body cam of the arrest here (English subtitles available).

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Police Bodycam Footage of Casey & Vicky White Arrest & Crash Site. Evansville Indiana!
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Casey White leaving Lauderdale County Courthouse - going to state prison.
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He didn't like State Prison. Casey Cole White wanted a county jail. Back to square one.
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Old 11th May 2022, 08:30 PM   #154
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Police body cam of the arrest here (English subtitles available).

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Fox News Digital made a public records request and got the recorded audio of a 911 call Vicky White made in the moments before the high speed chase ended in disaster. You can hear the 911 operator answering the call and White (who never responds to the 911 operator) yelling, "The air bags are gonna kill us!" It sounds like she's saying they should "get out and run." The cell phone she was using remains on for over six minutes and you can hear the voices of the police arriving at the scene. It's kind of an audio overlay for the body cam video linked by Vixen.

The audio isn't too clear but you can hear one of the officers, trying to extricate White from the wrecked vehicle, exclaim, "She's got a gun in her hand." That "her trigger finger is on the trigger." Pretty amazing stuff. Below is a link to an MSN news report that includes the audio.

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Old 11th May 2022, 09:15 PM   #155
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Good riddance, next story!
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Old 13th May 2022, 03:30 AM   #156
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Exactly the same thing happened in Australia. Female prison guard helps hardened criminal lover escape.

They literally blasted their way out with explosives

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gibb
Or they could be a Prison Teacher:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...eacher-jailed/
I remember this one happening, what with her prestending she had a bomb in her car.

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The court had been told that McAllister and Hardy, of Chaucer Street,

Hull, had walked out of jail together through 10 security gates without

being challenged. Then, to give him time to escape, she staged a bomb

hoax at a supermarket with a device made out of Smarties tubes, masking

tape, compost, and a calculator.

The dangerous fugitive was recaptured five days later after an armed

raid on a house in Morden, Surrey.
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