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Old 16th May 2022, 07:22 PM   #3041
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
It seems that Boris was just blindly fishing for a solution out of a hat without really trying to even understand the consequences of his choice. Having A solution at all was the point. Having an even half-way workable, meh-it-will-do-for-now solution was not.
He's doing what he always does. Kicking the can down the road.
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Old 16th May 2022, 07:32 PM   #3042
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
On Channel 4 News

"Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it"

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it.

Smirking ****.

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A normal politician would resign after such an admission. He admits he made a deal he never expected to honour and that he expects the other party to let him off for any obligations on his part. This is why he had to leave the EU.
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Old 17th May 2022, 01:03 AM   #3043
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
On Channel 4 News

"Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it"

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it.

Smirking ****.

video in link https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/st...05196321685511

I wonder what his credit rating is like.
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Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this?
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this?
No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats.
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Old 17th May 2022, 10:41 AM   #3046
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Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.
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Old 17th May 2022, 01:22 PM   #3047
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.
Opinion piece in the Guardian

"There was clearly a part of Truss that knew she was spewing a word salad of bollocks because she stumbled over sentences and spoke in a robotic monotone. As if struggling to disengage from what’s left of her conscience. Telling lies on this scale must be so corrosive to any sense of personal integrity and self-worth. There may still be a small part of her that knows she is a fraud. But it must be silenced. She has sold her soul in the belief that her ambition can only be realised by out-Convicting the Convict."

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No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats.
They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.
If you say things like this often enough they become plausible.
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Old 18th May 2022, 02:15 AM   #3050
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John Redwood tweeted

"I do not believe the EU would tear up its free access to the U.K. market where it sells so much and break the international law it talks so much about just because the U.K. legally sorts out internal U.K. trade matters with Northern Ireland that the EU has damaged."

https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...78355562704904

Remember that he is a serving MP and at Brexit was a supporter of 'no deal'

Uk doesn’t even have the customs infrastructure in place to impose tariffs. A trade war would be very one sided.

This tweet is a perfect example of why Brexit is such a ********

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‘They need us more than we need them’ seems to be trending again. This time apparently, we have the advantage as the EU just lost the Russian market so they can't afford to lose the UK too.
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Old 18th May 2022, 08:04 AM   #3052
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP.
No they are not. There is no "alliance against the UDP [sic]". That is not how the Assembly works.
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Old 18th May 2022, 02:35 PM   #3053
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Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen.
I know that relations between England & France have always been on the abusive side of friendly. But I think we've gone too far inflicting him on them. As they say "It's all fun and games..."
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The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol.

What a surprise.
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The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol.

What a surprise.
To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any.

I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab.
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Old 20th May 2022, 03:13 AM   #3057
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John Redwood says:

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Nancy Pelosi should talk to Unionists in Northern Ireland about the damage the EU is doing to the Northern Ireland Protocol . It is the EU not the U.K. that has undermined it and led to the break down of the Assembly.
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...01158486523918

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King View Post
To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any.

I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab.
To quote

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Her relationship to the law is like that between a badger and string theory.
AIUI Bravermann has fallen back on the 'disproportionate and unreasonable' argument.

She will be surprised when she discovers who signed off the totally unacceptable protocols.
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Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him...
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Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him...
Sadly he still thinks the goal is a workable solution: "But talk of scrapping the protocol and starting again is totally counterproductive." It is not counterproductive to be a smoke screen for Johnson and a detraction from his political - well really as we all know it is - personal concerns.
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Twitter user @archer_rs:
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Brexit lorry queues are now so bad a charity specialising in natural disasters has been drafted in to care for suffering drivers.
REACT Disaster Response has agreed a contract with Kent County Council to provide help to drivers stuck for days at Dover.
https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status...-Xg6mfSjA&s=19

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Brexit lorry queues are now so bad a charity specialising in natural disasters has been drafted in to care for suffering drivers.
REACT Disaster Response has agreed a contract with Kent County Council to provide help to drivers stuck for days at Dover.
https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status...-Xg6mfSjA&s=19

You also got the name of the charity wrong, which hampered my search for a source; it's RE:ACT, not REACT.
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Let me be clear, I have no fundamental problem with genetically engineered (whether edited or modified) fruit and vegetables. I do have a problem if this makes the export of fruit and vegetables to the EU even more difficult.

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A bill will be introduced on Wednesday to allow commercial growing of gene-edited crops in England.

The technique is currently not used for food production in the UK because of rules set by the EU but Brexit has enabled the UK to set its own rules.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61537610

The claim is that this will help to address Vitamin D deficiency. I'd respond with:
  • If the deficiency is dietary, how likely will this be to have a significant impact ?
  • Will people be able to afford these tomatoes ?
  • Are there more effective ways to address Vitamin D deficiency ?

There have been a number of stories in the UK press over the last couple of weeks about Vitamin D deficiency. I wonder if they has been placed to prepare us for this announcement ?

This news only applies to England.
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This news only applies to England.

Perhaps the climate has forced the inhabitants of Scotland to evolve to not need vitamin D.
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Perhaps the climate has forced the inhabitants of Scotland to evolve to not need vitamin D.
Speaking as a peely wally Scotsman, ye ken whit ye can dae with your vitamins!
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Let me be clear, I have no fundamental problem with genetically engineered (whether edited or modified) fruit and vegetables. I do have a problem if this makes the export of fruit and vegetables to the EU even more difficult.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61537610
This could make it harder to export non-GMO vegetables as well because you need to have separate supply chains for each. This was a longstanding issue with Canadian Canola exports to the EU. Technically only genetically modified variants were blocked by the EU, but in practice nearly all exports were blocked due to difficulties in keeping the two separate.
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Credit where credit's due:

Originally Posted by @archer_rs
Brexit lorry queues are now so bad a charity specialising in natural disasters has been drafted in to care for suffering drivers.
REACT Disaster Response has agreed a contract with Kent County Council to provide help to drivers stuck for days at Dover...
https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status...-Xg6mfSjA&s=19
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“And you’re content to back a lawbreaker in office?”

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....and yet a decent, if slightly boring lawyer is an unacceptable Prime Minister

We have the leaders we deserve.
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Interesting article from the BBC about how the fallout from Brexit is changing some farmers' minds about supporting the Conservatives:

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For years he was president of the Conservative Association in Penrith and The Border, when former Tory MP Rory Stewart held the constituency.

But in 2019 Mr Craig resigned in solidarity with Mr Stewart, who was suspended from the Conservatives for rebelling against the government's Brexit agenda and subsequently stood down as an MP.

"I do not associate myself with the current Conservative administration at all, really," Mr Craig says. "I do question whether I was as Conservative as I thought I was."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61443452

Of course this could only result in the departure of a few "moderate" voices from the party (a mirror of what happened to the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn) leaving the remaining members to drag the party even further to the right.
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Looks like cheese is jeopardising the UK's ability to get a trade deal with Canada.

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Britain wants greater access to Canadian markets for more than 700 varieties of cheese, including Stilton, Cheshire and Wensleydale, a crumbly variety originating from Yorkshire.

But Ottawa has made it clear it does not want to see more British cheddar — let alone artisanal varieties such as stinking bishop, renegade monk and Hereford hop — on Canadian fridge shelves.
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Ralph Goodale, Canada's high commissioner to the U.K., said if Britain wants more access to Canadian markets for its cheese as part of a bilateral free-trade agreement, it will have to knock on Brussels' door and get its part of the dairy quota back.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/che...pute-1.6467057

Seems like all those trade deals the Brexiteers were crowing about were either simply EU deals rolled over or fictional.
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Looks like cheese is jeopardising the UK's ability to get a trade deal with Canada.





https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/che...pute-1.6467057

Seems like all those trade deals the Brexiteers were crowing about were either simply EU deals rolled over or fictional.
I talked about this last year. From Canada's perspective the UK has already been granted quota for products like dairy under the previous EU agreement of which the UK was party to. The UK leaving the EU is not a a reason for Canada to make greater concessions on quota than it already has, and if the UK wants it's share of the quota Canada has already conceded it needs to negotiate with the EU.


Something else to keep in mind is that the dairy industry in Quebec is vastly outsized in it's political power. It has shown it can block even strong front-runners from winning party leadership, so anyone with aspirations to become PM is pretty much forced to play nice.
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More collateral damage relating to the UK's opposition to the Northern Ireland Protocol.

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Universities have called for an urgent resolution to a row about UK access to a major EU research programme.

Universities UK, which represents 140 institutions, fears ministers could be about to abandon the Horizon scheme.

In a letter to the European Commission, seen by the BBC, it describes the situation as "close to the precipice."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61644662

Let's just continue to cut of our noses to spite our faces
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They need to spend that money on researching how to get a trade agreement.
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
Something else to keep in mind is that the dairy industry in Quebec is vastly outsized in it's political power.
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
And really all international trade is about cheese apparently. Isn't britian selling enough cheese to Japan to offset the loss of its share in the EU quota of cheese imported into Canada?
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Originally Posted by Parsman View Post
Speaking as a peely wally Scotsman, ye ken whit ye can dae with your vitamins!

Deep-fry them?
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Senior Tory MP Tobias Ellwood says government should mitigate the cost of living by rejoining the single market (Norway model)

Brexit isn't what "most people imagined" & "sector after sector" is "strangled by the red tape we were supposed to escape from"

https://www.politicshome.com/thehous...-single-market
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