[Continuation] Brexit: Now What? Turning it up to 11 - Page 77

a_unique_person · 16th May 2022, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It seems that Boris was just blindly fishing for a solution out of a hat without really trying to even understand the consequences of his choice. Having A solution at all was the point. Having an even half-way workable, meh-it-will-do-for-now solution was not.

He's doing what he always does. Kicking the can down the road.

a_unique_person · 16th May 2022, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

On Channel 4 News

"Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it"

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it.

Smirking ****.

video in link https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/st...05196321685511

A normal politician would resign after such an admission. He admits he made a deal he never expected to honour and that he expects the other party to let him off for any obligations on his part. This is why he had to leave the EU.

Mojo · 17th May 2022, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

On Channel 4 News

"Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it"

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it.

Smirking ****.

video in link https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/st...05196321685511

I wonder what his credit rating is like.

a_unique_person · 17th May 2022, 07:03 AM

Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this?

catsmate · 17th May 2022, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this?

No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats.

Captain_Swoop · 17th May 2022, 10:41 AM

Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.

Lothian · 17th May 2022, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.

Opinion piece in the Guardian

"There was clearly a part of Truss that knew she was spewing a word salad of bollocks because she stumbled over sentences and spoke in a robotic monotone. As if struggling to disengage from what’s left of her conscience. Telling lies on this scale must be so corrosive to any sense of personal integrity and self-worth. There may still be a small part of her that knows she is a fraud. But it must be silenced. She has sold her soul in the belief that her ambition can only be realised by out-Convicting the Convict."

Linky thing

a_unique_person · 17th May 2022, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats.

They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP.

a_unique_person · 17th May 2022, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.

If you say things like this often enough they become plausible.

Captain_Swoop · 18th May 2022, 02:15 AM

John Redwood tweeted

"I do not believe the EU would tear up its free access to the U.K. market where it sells so much and break the international law it talks so much about just because the U.K. legally sorts out internal U.K. trade matters with Northern Ireland that the EU has damaged."

https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...78355562704904

Remember that he is a serving MP and at Brexit was a supporter of 'no deal'

Uk doesn’t even have the customs infrastructure in place to impose tariffs. A trade war would be very one sided.

This tweet is a perfect example of why Brexit is such a ********

Captain_Swoop · 18th May 2022, 02:21 AM

‘They need us more than we need them’ seems to be trending again. This time apparently, we have the advantage as the EU just lost the Russian market so they can't afford to lose the UK too.

catsmate · 18th May 2022, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP.

No they are not. There is no "alliance against the UDP [sic]". That is not how the Assembly works.

Captain_Swoop · 18th May 2022, 02:35 PM

Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen.

P.J. Denyer · 19th May 2022, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen.

I know that relations between England & France have always been on the abusive side of friendly. But I think we've gone too far inflicting him on them. As they say "It's all fun and games..."

Captain_Swoop · 19th May 2022, 03:44 AM

The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol.

What a surprise.

Carrot Flower King · 19th May 2022, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol.

What a surprise.

To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any.

I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab.

Captain_Swoop · Yesterday, 03:13 AM

John Redwood says Nancy Pelosi should talk to Unionists in Northern Ireland about the damage the EU is doing to the Northern Ireland Protocol . It is the EU not the U.K. that has undermined it and led to the break down of the Assembly.

jimbob · Yesterday, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any.

I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab.

To quote

Her relationship to the law is like that between a badger and string theory.

Vixen · Yesterday, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by jimbob

To quote

Her relationship to the law is like that between a badger and string theory.

AIUI Bravermann has fallen back on the 'disproportionate and unreasonable' argument.

She will be surprised when she discovers who signed off the totally unacceptable protocols.

Carrot Flower King · Yesterday, 08:44 AM

Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him...

Darat · Yesterday, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him...

Sadly he still thinks the goal is a workable solution: "But talk of scrapping the protocol and starting again is totally counterproductive." It is not counterproductive to be a smoke screen for Johnson and a detraction from his political - well really as we all know it is - personal concerns.

16th May 2022, 07:22 PM	#3041
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 44,039	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It seems that Boris was just blindly fishing for a solution out of a hat without really trying to even understand the consequences of his choice. Having A solution at all was the point. Having an even half-way workable, meh-it-will-do-for-now solution was not. He's doing what he always does. Kicking the can down the road.
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16th May 2022, 07:32 PM	#3042
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 44,039	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop On Channel 4 News "Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it" The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it. Smirking ****. video in link https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/st...05196321685511 A normal politician would resign after such an admission. He admits he made a deal he never expected to honour and that he expects the other party to let him off for any obligations on his part. This is why he had to leave the EU.
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17th May 2022, 01:03 AM	#3043
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 35,769	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop On Channel 4 News "Yes, I agreed it. I hoped & believed our friends would not necessarily want to apply it" The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom agreed & signed an international treaty affecting the lives of millions in the U.K. hoping that the cosignatories would not apply it. Smirking ****. video in link https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/st...05196321685511 I wonder what his credit rating is like.
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17th May 2022, 07:03 AM	#3044
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 44,039	Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this?
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17th May 2022, 07:59 AM	#3045
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 26,900	Originally Posted by a_unique_person Sinn Fein rules NI. Did Boris or Nige predict this? No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats.
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17th May 2022, 10:41 AM	#3046
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law.

17th May 2022, 01:22 PM	#3047
Lothian should be banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth, specifically the crusty bit on the outside Posts: 17,419	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law. Opinion piece in the Guardian "There was clearly a part of Truss that knew she was spewing a word salad of bollocks because she stumbled over sentences and spoke in a robotic monotone. As if struggling to disengage from what’s left of her conscience. Telling lies on this scale must be so corrosive to any sense of personal integrity and self-worth. There may still be a small part of her that knows she is a fraud. But it must be silenced. She has sold her soul in the belief that her ambition can only be realised by out-Convicting the Convict." Linky thing

17th May 2022, 03:07 PM	#3048
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 44,039	Originally Posted by catsmate No. Sinn Féin has 30% of the Assembly seats. They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP.
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17th May 2022, 03:08 PM	#3049
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 44,039	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Liz Truss has said a new law would be introduced to change the post-Brexit trade deal for Northern Ireland but the bill would be legal under international law. If you say things like this often enough they become plausible.
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18th May 2022, 02:15 AM	#3050
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	John Redwood tweeted "I do not believe the EU would tear up its free access to the U.K. market where it sells so much and break the international law it talks so much about just because the U.K. legally sorts out internal U.K. trade matters with Northern Ireland that the EU has damaged." https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...78355562704904 Remember that he is a serving MP and at Brexit was a supporter of 'no deal' Uk doesn’t even have the customs infrastructure in place to impose tariffs. A trade war would be very one sided. This tweet is a perfect example of why Brexit is such a ********
	Last edited by Captain_Swoop; 18th May 2022 at 02:18 AM.

18th May 2022, 02:21 AM	#3051
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	‘They need us more than we need them’ seems to be trending again. This time apparently, we have the advantage as the EU just lost the Russian market so they can't afford to lose the UK too.

18th May 2022, 08:04 AM	#3052
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 26,900	Originally Posted by a_unique_person They are the leaders of an alliance against the UDP. No they are not. There is no "alliance against the UDP [sic]". That is not how the Assembly works.
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18th May 2022, 02:35 PM	#3053
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen.

19th May 2022, 02:43 AM	#3054
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,704	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Brexit is going so well that yesterday Stanley Johnson (Boris' Dad) officially became a French citizen. I know that relations between England & France have always been on the abusive side of friendly. But I think we've gone too far inflicting him on them. As they say "It's all fun and games..."
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19th May 2022, 03:44 AM	#3055
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol. What a surprise.

19th May 2022, 05:19 AM	#3056
Carrot Flower King Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 2,377	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop The Attorney General Suella Braverman will not be publishing the legal advice around changing the Northern Ireland protocol. What a surprise. To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any. I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab.

Yesterday, 03:13 AM	#3057
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,120	John Redwood says Nancy Pelosi should talk to Unionists in Northern Ireland about the damage the EU is doing to the Northern Ireland Protocol . It is the EU not the U.K. that has undermined it and led to the break down of the Assembly.

Yesterday, 03:16 AM	#3058
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 25,564	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King To anyone with any form of scientific training, not referencing your supporting evidence means you don't have any. I strongly suspect this to be the case with pretty much anything Braverman says. I mean how the actual **** did she get a law degree from Cambridge? I can hear the cogs whirring when she says her name, same as with Williamson or Raaaaaaaaab. To quote Her relationship to the law is like that between a badger and string theory.
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Yesterday, 03:26 AM	#3059
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,928	Originally Posted by jimbob To quote Her relationship to the law is like that between a badger and string theory. AIUI Bravermann has fallen back on the 'disproportionate and unreasonable' argument. She will be surprised when she discovers who signed off the totally unacceptable protocols.
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Yesterday, 08:44 AM	#3060
Carrot Flower King Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 2,377	Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him...

Yesterday, 10:27 AM	#3061
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 101,791	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Leo Varadkar isn't too impressed with BlowJob - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eu-uk-protocol - but, pacé one of Max Hastings' put downs, he has met him... Sadly he still thinks the goal is a workable solution: "But talk of scrapping the protocol and starting again is totally counterproductive." It is not counterproductive to be a smoke screen for Johnson and a detraction from his political - well really as we all know it is - personal concerns.
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