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Old 3rd July 2022, 05:30 PM   #2161
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
If it is about online bullying what relevance does it have to the topic of this thread?

Because it perfectly illustrates the dynamics of the online mobs that drive so much of what is called 'cancel culture'.
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Originally Posted by Graham2001 View Post
Because it perfectly illustrates the dynamics of the online mobs that drive so much of what is called 'cancel culture'.
Why not call it "online bullying" rather than "cancel culture"?
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
This kid wasnít shunned for a lifestyle choice. He was shunned for victimizing and humiliating a young girl.
Earlier in your three card monte routine, you said, "Feel free to shun that boy and encourage others to do so if you are unsatisfied with the response to his behavior," but perhaps it's dawned on you that this sort of you-do-you moral relativism is not enough: we need an independent reason. Tabling for a moment if Diego's punishment has been taken too far, there's another problem: The students threaten to ostracize anyone who befriends (or secretly befriends) Diego. Dave and Jenni did not victimize and humiliate a young girl.

The vindictiveness and social conformity that you're willing to self-righteously co-sign is extremely right-wing. Law & order conservatives similarly advocate harsh penalties on the intuition that it will deter socially undesirable behavior. This is a mistake. One problem is that criminals, like teenagers, tend to be stupid and impulsive.

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There are also convicted criminals who arenít victims at all. Bearing the brunt of negative consequences that directly result for your own bad behavior doesnít automatically make you a victim.
I never suggested a person on the receiving end of punishment is "automatically" a victim. I outlined conditions where they could be victims.

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I'll take that for what it is: nothing at all.
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From a site called 'Palo Alto Online' an account from June 2022 of what happened when someone noticed tiles dating from 1913 depicting a lotus & two other Buddhist symbols at a camp for children...


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Hidden Villa, a Los Altos Hills nonprofit known for its pastoral landscape and educational programs, announced on June 8 that all of this year's summer camp sessions are canceled due to the "abrupt departure" of camp staff members, disrupting summer plans for nearly 1,000 children.

But some now-former staff members say the situation was anything but abrupt: their resignations came after months of slow-building conflict that had boiled over — in particular, the handling of pre-Nazi swastika tiles that were embedded into the exterior of a camp building for nearly a century until they were removed June 7.

https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/...swastika-tiles
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If the kerfuffle was actually about the tiles that would indeed be beyond ridiculous. But it does sound like the tile argument was just a proxy for the staff feeling ill used. The tiles were finally taken down, and the staff walked AFTER that.
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