The Russian Invasion of Ukraine Part 4 - Page 37

arthwollipot · Yesterday, 05:29 PM

Part 3 of this excellent visual history of the course of the war has dropped. This 27:01 video covers the month of May 2022. It shows clearly just how little Russia gained in that time.

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The Don · Yesterday, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by eerok

This appears to be accurate so far, according to today's analysis from ISW.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-july-4

I hope the next phase consists of Ukraine bombing the crap out of Russian positions from a safe distance.

That would be a nice thought - as long as Ukraine has the means to do that. AIUI they're short of Soviet-era shells for their old artillery and the NATO-specification artillery hasn't arrived in the sorts of numbers to allow for 1:1 replacement.

The Russians OTOH seem determined to continue to advance westwards using their depressingly familiar tactics of using artillery to reduce their target to rubble, advance and repeat. The perceived wisdom is that the Russians will eventually run out of artillery, ordnance, men or a combination of more than one of them. As long as this happens then that's OK. If not, NATO will have to come up with a Plan B.

eerok · Today, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by eerok

This appears to be accurate so far, according to today's analysis from ISW.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-july-4

I hope the next phase consists of Ukraine bombing the crap out of Russian positions from a safe distance.

And now it seems less accurate:

Russia shells Ukraine's Donetsk region seeking new gains after seizing Luhansk (reuters.com)

It seems new weapons are getting through to Ukraine, though, so there's that.

SpitfireIX · Today, 09:43 AM

Even if their forces are unable to advance, Russia will keep shelling Ukrainian military and civilian targets as long as they have artillery and ammunition, despite the fact that conserving those for future use might be more prudent.

Captain_Swoop · Today, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by SpitfireIX

Even if their forces are unable to advance, Russia will keep shelling Ukrainian military and civilian targets as long as they have artillery and ammunition, despite the fact that conserving those for future use might be more prudent.

It gives the impression they are accomplishing something.

Today, 09:13 AM	#1443
eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 5,029	Originally Posted by eerok This appears to be accurate so far, according to today's analysis from ISW. https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-july-4 I hope the next phase consists of Ukraine bombing the crap out of Russian positions from a safe distance. And now it seems less accurate: Russia shells Ukraine's Donetsk region seeking new gains after seizing Luhansk (reuters.com) It seems new weapons are getting through to Ukraine, though, so there's that.
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Today, 09:43 AM	#1444
SpitfireIX Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Location: Niceville, Florida, USA Posts: 5,333	Even if their forces are unable to advance, Russia will keep shelling Ukrainian military and civilian targets as long as they have artillery and ammunition, despite the fact that conserving those for future use might be more prudent.
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Yesterday, 11:44 PM	#1442
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,468	Originally Posted by eerok This appears to be accurate so far, according to today's analysis from ISW. https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-july-4 I hope the next phase consists of Ukraine bombing the crap out of Russian positions from a safe distance. That would be a nice thought - as long as Ukraine has the means to do that. AIUI they're short of Soviet-era shells for their old artillery and the NATO-specification artillery hasn't arrived in the sorts of numbers to allow for 1:1 replacement. The Russians OTOH seem determined to continue to advance westwards using their depressingly familiar tactics of using artillery to reduce their target to rubble, advance and repeat. The perceived wisdom is that the Russians will eventually run out of artillery, ordnance, men or a combination of more than one of them. As long as this happens then that's OK. If not, NATO will have to come up with a Plan B.

Today, 10:27 AM	#1445
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,895	Originally Posted by SpitfireIX Even if their forces are unable to advance, Russia will keep shelling Ukrainian military and civilian targets as long as they have artillery and ammunition, despite the fact that conserving those for future use might be more prudent. It gives the impression they are accomplishing something.