[Split Thread] The Religious Right and Politics of sexuality

Stacyhs · 15th July 2022, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

Jesus H Christ on a crutch, aside from being a homophobic tubthumping bigoted [fill in blank], has this idiot actually not realized yet that heterosexuals can get AIDS too?

Not important if they can kill off the evil homos that God hates!

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dudalb · 15th July 2022, 06:20 PM

With a whole Universe to turn, why the hell would God be concerned about people's sexual habits on one small world anyway?

Stacyhs · 15th July 2022, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

With a whole Universe to turn, why the hell would God be concerned about people's sexual habits on one small world anyway?

If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil.

Religion: A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

shemp · 15th July 2022, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil.

Religion: A ~~riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma~~ moldy, festering **** sandwich.

ftfy

Captain_Swoop · 16th July 2022, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil.

Religion: A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

Because man fell from grace with god.

It's all to do with the fall of man.

Stacyhs · 16th July 2022, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Because man fell from grace with god.

It's all to do with the fall of man.

At the hands of a woman, naturally.

God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense.

Lurch · 16th July 2022, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

At the hands of a woman, naturally.

God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense.

With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist.

Skeptic Ginger · 16th July 2022, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lurch

With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! ~~Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist.~~ [Unless it's a totally made up story and the idiots who made it up ignored all the plot holes.]

ftfy

Stacyhs · 16th July 2022, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lurch

With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist.

This is pretty much the teaching of Calvinism. A person is preordained by God to either be 'saved' or not. If a person is 'good' it's because he's already been preordained by God to be saved. Free will is not a thing...everything is preordained.

Religion is so weird and illogical.

Stacyhs · 16th July 2022, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

ftfy

Aridas · 16th July 2022, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

At the hands of a woman, naturally.

God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense.

To poke a bit further at the tale... weren't perfect? Not quite a good description of the actual problem. Rather, weren't perfectly obedient even when they had no way to tell what right or wrong was and had unending time to mess up. It certainly was unavoidably a set up, though that's even more pronounced if one adds an assumption of omniscience. It can also make sense just fine, though, so long as one acknowledges that said fictional God is also the intentional causer of evil, with all the implications that that entails.

Stacyhs · 16th July 2022, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Aridas

To poke a bit further at the tale... weren't perfect? Not quite a good description of the actual problem. Rather, weren't perfectly obedient even when they had no way to tell what right or wrong was and had unending time to mess up. It certainly was unavoidably a set up, though that's even more pronounced if one adds an assumption of omniscience. It can also make sense just fine, though, so long as one acknowledges that said fictional God is also the intentional causer of evil, with all the implications that that entails.

Religion is irrational and illogical and survives only because of brainwashing by society/families and the human need to have answers...even if those answers are ludicrous. "I don't know" is something most people cannot tolerate.

15th July 2022, 06:20 PM	#2
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,959	With a whole Universe to turn, why the hell would God be concerned about people's sexual habits on one small world anyway?
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15th July 2022, 07:35 PM	#4
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 49,490	Originally Posted by Stacyhs If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil. Religion: A ~~riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma~~ moldy, festering **** sandwich. ftfy
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16th July 2022, 06:58 PM	#11
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,078	Originally Posted by Stacyhs At the hands of a woman, naturally. God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. To poke a bit further at the tale... weren't perfect? Not quite a good description of the actual problem. Rather, weren't perfectly obedient even when they had no way to tell what right or wrong was and had unending time to mess up. It certainly was unavoidably a set up, though that's even more pronounced if one adds an assumption of omniscience. It can also make sense just fine, though, so long as one acknowledges that said fictional God is also the intentional causer of evil, with all the implications that that entails.
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15th July 2022, 06:30 PM	#3
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,984	Originally Posted by dudalb With a whole Universe to turn, why the hell would God be concerned about people's sexual habits on one small world anyway? If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil. Religion: A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

16th July 2022, 02:14 PM	#5
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Originally Posted by Stacyhs If God made humans and God is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, then why did he create a human that he "hates"? Oh, let me guess: homos are the product of the Devil. Religion: A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Because man fell from grace with god. It's all to do with the fall of man.

16th July 2022, 03:14 PM	#6
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,984	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Because man fell from grace with god. It's all to do with the fall of man. At the hands of a woman, naturally. God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense.

16th July 2022, 05:11 PM	#7
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,214	Originally Posted by Stacyhs At the hands of a woman, naturally. God gave Adam and Eve free will and them punished them and all mankind for using it. He basically set them up for the fall because they weren't perfect...which is the way he made them. Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist.

16th July 2022, 05:37 PM	#8
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,445	Originally Posted by Lurch With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! ~~Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist.~~ [Unless it's a totally made up story and the idiots who made it up ignored all the plot holes.] ftfy

16th July 2022, 05:39 PM	#9
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,984	Originally Posted by Lurch With Gawd supposedly being so perfect and all knowing, He would have known before creating anything exactly how EVERYTHING would all go down. This means the poor sod would going through a preordained script for all time. How bloody boring must that be! Unless the creep is a right sado-masochist. This is pretty much the teaching of Calvinism. A person is preordained by God to either be 'saved' or not. If a person is 'good' it's because he's already been preordained by God to be saved. Free will is not a thing...everything is preordained. Religion is so weird and illogical.

16th July 2022, 05:40 PM	#10
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,984	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger ftfy

16th July 2022, 07:01 PM	#12
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,984	Originally Posted by Aridas To poke a bit further at the tale... weren't perfect? Not quite a good description of the actual problem. Rather, weren't perfectly obedient even when they had no way to tell what right or wrong was and had unending time to mess up. It certainly was unavoidably a set up, though that's even more pronounced if one adds an assumption of omniscience. It can also make sense just fine, though, so long as one acknowledges that said fictional God is also the intentional causer of evil, with all the implications that that entails. Religion is irrational and illogical and survives only because of brainwashing by society/families and the human need to have answers...even if those answers are ludicrous. "I don't know" is something most people cannot tolerate.