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Ukrainian troops being trained in the UK, video in link
Thousands have been trained by the British Army since 2015. One of the reasons they are doing so well, they have had training in depth already. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-619736...ost_type=share |
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Now the action movie makers have a new "bad guy" country to use as the antagonist.
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Another bleak summary from ISW
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I know that Russia is supposed to be hollowing out their units to continue to reinforce the front lines but they seem to be doing it on multiple fronts. They're continuing their relentless grind on the eastern front. They're throwing more men and materiel towards Kharkiv. They're finding men and equipment to reinforce their positions in the South. I really do hope they start to run out of steam soon. ![]() |
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Remember that the initial assessment was that Russia would struggle with resistance once it had installed a puppet regime. If you are trying to persuade the people you've invaded to give up, you don't want to be seen to husband your resources - especially if you really don't care about your troops |
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US intelligence see that:
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Article does state that there is a mismatch between Putin's ambitions, and Russia's military capacity, but it does seem a long grind will be a likely outcome. |
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They're still making marginal gains in Donbas and to the north of Kharkiv whilst at the same time not losing any of the ground they have gained in the South.
They're still putting Ukrainian defenders under a lot of pressure, causing horrific damage to those areas they can shell and have demonstrated that they can still conduct terror attacks throughout the rest of Ukraine with their longer range weapons. ![]() Meanwhile they are still blockading Ukraine's sea traffic in part because they still hold Snake Island. |
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You think Snake Island is blocking sea traffic?
Russia have withdrawn, they haven't been able to resupply. If they had steam they would be making some real gains and not battering away to make 'marginal' gains. Ukraine are still re-equipping and training. Why would they want to go off half cocked? |
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That's great news as I understand it.
![]() In other news, I think Bernie Ecclestone made some very ill-judged comments:
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Good news. Your own source doesn't say anything like that. You are reading some alternate version of that psot...
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That breaking news came after my post - IMO its great news.
![]() They're still crawling across Eastern Ukraine, reducing everything they can to rubble. They've proven that they cannot conduct a war or movement, but unfortunately a war of attrition is something that they're good enough at to keep doing it for months at a time. You're right, they wouldn't. If there's a decisive counterattack in the upcoming months, I'd be delighted but the Russians appear to be digging in and preparing for a defensive war. |
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They are wasting what forces they have with their pointless attacks that are achieving nothing compared to the cost
Throwing forces in piecemeal just wastes them. As for Snake Island, another embarrassing retreat. It's an admission they can't defend it from attack or effectively resupply. |
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Ukraine will cede the pocket around Severodonetsk and draw a defensive line from Bakhmut to Siversk that Russia will not cross, largely because they're depleted but also they can't stretch their supply lines that far. This will protect the tactically valuable Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, and allow Ukraine protection to bomb deep into Russian-held territory.
Russia wants to call Luhansk a victory and stop for now anyway. This appears to be the end of a phase in Donbas. (I thought I bookmarked the source, but I can't find it. I read this somewhere yesterday, though.) |
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Maybe Igor "Strelkov" Girkin as translated by https://twitter.com/mdmitri91 at https://wartranslated.com/?
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Ukraine aren't going to try anything offensive until they are properly re-equipped and trained.
Pushing stuff in piecemeal is the best way to lose it. On fronts where they find a weakness they may push with what is already there but don't expect any big attacks until they are ready. |
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They're barely crawling. They couldn't capture the capital and overthrow the government with Blitzkrieg. They couldn't overrun the country with Deep Battle. Now they're throwing everything they have to throw, just to hold on to their initial gains, and to keep making marginal advances on Karkhiv.
They're effectively almost on defense at this point. The only reason they're not entirely on defense is that Ukraine isn't ready to mount a full counterattack yet. The Russians are taking advantage of the lull to try to eke out a few more miles of distance between the front and the Russian border. This may end up being a stalemate and eventual cease-fire, along the front more or less as it is now. That's my expectation. Or the hoped-for Ukrainian second wind will come, bearing modern arms gifted by the west, and fresh troops trained by the west in those arms. We'll see. |
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I remember Girkin was referenced, but only as confirmation. Sorry, I thought I'd bookmarked it. Maybe my thousands of bookmarks are becoming unwieldy.
ETA: I found it on Daily KOS, which is admittedly not a very neutral source. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...n-to-join-NATO |
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The island is about 35 km off the coast. The French Caeser artillery has a range of 42 km. That seems to have prompted the "goodwill gesture".
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ETA: Or domestically produced Ukrainian arty:
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...raine-VIDEO-vn
40 dead Russians as the result of US HIMARS. Maybe there was a general among them, if the Russians have any left. Killing Russians gangsters is a great use of my tax dollars. |
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Little two minute video of the Caeser artillery. To my untrained eye that looks like a pretty fast rate of fire for a gun with a 45 km range. Especially if is auto-correcting for whatever minor shifting and settling that the vehicle might undergo with each shot.
These seem to what was used (possibly also with some Ukrainian-built artillery with similar range) to finally force Russia of Snake Island. https://twitter.com/Ahmad30812873/st...67629806071809 No point to make, I just thought it was an interesting vid, with the partial auto loading thing. |
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The British AS-90 SP gun and the 105mm towed gun and have a radar above the barrel, it records the trajectory and muzzle velocity of each shot and the gun automatically 're lays' before the next round. They are using a system that is common to a few NATO countries, I don't have the details at hand at the moment though.
I would think the threatto Snake Island is from missiles attacking both the installations ashore and any ships trying to resupply. |
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Funny. I called Russian control of Snake Island untenable. Was right...
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It's the Ukes' fault. They had a fine, target-rich area, and if they hadn't been so greedy they still would.
The trick is to let the Putlerists stay just barely alive: shell 'em tonight, then sink a barge tomorrow. Harass constantly with economical fire, then lay down an old-fashioned TOT* on saints' days. They'd keep swapping out commanders, and with luck they'd never catch on. * Cap'n Swoop will know what I'm talking about. Gunners all know their history. |
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Time On Target, a British innovation in the North African campaign. (Wiki has a good article on it. Sorry, I have trouble posting links.) All the guns within range of a target fire at predetermined times so that their shells strike at nearly the same instant. A 3-second window is considered sufficient. TOT was much used by all the armies of WW2, and is still practiced when an opportunity offers.
As for instance, againt fixed installations, stalled transport, and similar unwise arrangements. |
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I presume it's Time on Target
And yes it was something that Russia wanted to keep - but it has already done that [ETA] talking about Snake Island. Which shows the limit of Russia's grasp. Yes they can capture Snake Island. It is a bit of a pity that they weren't stupid enough to put some more valuable equipment on it, and try to keep supplying it. But it has already cost them a fair bit so forcing them to abandon it is also good. |
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