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Old 12th November 2007, 02:57 PM   #161
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Old 12th November 2007, 03:03 PM   #162
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Lol....Dylan says that WTC 7 is supposed to be bomb resistant and bullet proof. Guess a CD couldn't have happened after all!
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Yeah, looks like Dylan couldn't get the rights to Willy Rod's testimony.

Must have cost too much.
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Oh lord. He's using 9/11 Mysteries pyroclastic claim? Apparently he doesn't know what the definistion of that is. Is there a volcano underneath the WTC complex or something?
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Old 12th November 2007, 03:18 PM   #165
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I found the presentation of the North of Citgo flight plan quite compelling.

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Old 12th November 2007, 03:53 PM   #166
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The 10 largest U.S. carriers posted a mishandled baggage rate of 4.52 reports per 1,000 passengers in March, not as good as February's mark of 3.85 but better than March 2001's 5.03 for the same 10 carriers. For the first three months this year, the 10 carriers recorded a mishandled baggage rate of 4.37, much better than the 5.28 mark for the first quarter of 2001.
http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2002/dot046_02.html

5.28 complaints per 1000 passengers for the first quarter of 2001. That's roughly 1 out of every 189 passengers.
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Old 12th November 2007, 04:11 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by MetalliSociety View Post
Also, like Bofors, Dylan and Co. never read the NIST report, and they have openly admited that they "dont have the time" to read over the report.
I believe the scientific terminology is TL;DR.
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Old 12th November 2007, 04:13 PM   #168
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And speaking of other weird things in this steaming pile, what is the point of telling us Llyod England belongs to the Blue Knights Motocycle Club?
You'd understand if you knew how many light poles those guys have knocked down over the years.
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Old 12th November 2007, 04:31 PM   #169
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After banging on about buildings burning for 18 hours, Avery says
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Two 110 story skyscrapers, completed in 1973, burn for 56 minutes over 8 floors, and 103 minutes over 5 floors.
That should be 56 minutes over 6 floors and 103 minutes over (at least) 11 floors. The building in Philly burned for 18 hours over 8 floors, yet the WTC burned over a similar/greater area in just a fraction of the time, due to the jet fuel.
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Old 12th November 2007, 05:02 PM   #170
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Just finished the whole movie. Welp, there's nothing earth shattering in it, and quite frankly it almost put me to sleep with Avery's boring and illogically structured arguments.

Anyone with half a brain can see that this move is bunk.
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Originally Posted by MetalliSociety View Post
Just finished the whole movie. Welp, there's nothing earth shattering in it, and quite frankly it almost put me to sleep with Avery's boring and illogically structured arguments.
And Dylan Avery actually expects people to pay to see it. I feel ripped off and I saw it for free.
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Old 12th November 2007, 05:06 PM   #172
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I like the fact that, near the end, they say that the comic book version of the 9/11 Commission Report will tell you all you need to know Did Avery et al read the actual report, or just the comic book?
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Old 12th November 2007, 06:28 PM   #173
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This appears to be the full video, for those of you who are dying to see how it ends. I am too busy at the moment watching a David Gilmour DVD.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer...61960956516&hl
Thanks.

The last half was as poor as the first half that I watched last night. Seriously crappy, mind-numbingly boring, and - like all of the previous versions - full of long debunked nonsense, deceptions and outright lies.
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Old 12th November 2007, 08:36 PM   #174
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If only I had a microphone, and some skill, I'd contemplate MSTing it. Ah well.
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Old 12th November 2007, 08:55 PM   #175
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LCFC is now available for free, officially. That was fast.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24297300734616

Edit: JamesB linked to it above.
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Old 12th November 2007, 09:00 PM   #176
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So wait a second.

What about all those people who downloaded a streaming feed for 7 bucks?

Why do a streaming internet pay-per-view release if you're just going to make it available for free the next day?

Umm...?
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Old 12th November 2007, 09:40 PM   #177
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I'd be pissed, like those guys who bought an iPhone on the first day. They didn't even wait a month.
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Old 12th November 2007, 10:02 PM   #178
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Well. I guess i can just delete the 14 1/2 megabytes out of 631 I started to download last night on Azureus, Nothing to see here. Or maybe I should just continue to download and not view it just to share it. It would be like knifing dylans pockets.


In the time it took me to type this its already at 54 megabytes.
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Old 12th November 2007, 10:09 PM   #179
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Well after years of insisting there were no fires or damage to WTC7, Dylan is now asking if it fell due to fires and damage or if it was "also" controlled demolition. I am still waiting to hear what type of demo setup could survive 7 hours of fires.
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Old 12th November 2007, 11:12 PM   #180
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LOL, at 1:47:06, Dylan tries to time the length of the collapse of WTC7 as "appoximately 6.5 seconds". The funny thing is that before he even starts the clock (by which time the small penthouse had already collapsed), you can hear the sound of the collapse....and this was from a building some distance away.
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Old 12th November 2007, 11:27 PM   #181
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The 1.3GB MOV file from thepiratebay is the one to get...it is complete (2 hr 9 min) and full resolution. I think the 600MB one has errors in it.
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Lol....Dylan says that WTC 7 is supposed to be bomb resistant and bullet proof.

It's a shame they didn't make it building-proof.

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Lol....Dylan says that WTC 7 is supposed to be bomb resistant and bullet proof. Guess a CD couldn't have happened after all!
Are they claiming that 1&2 were designed to withstand the impact of any jumbo jet? A person I know who saw it thought they did.
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The movie we can't debunk...because Dylan barely says a [rule10] thing!
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Well after years of insisting there were no fires or damage to WTC7, Dylan is now asking if it fell due to fires and damage or if it was "also" controlled demolition. I am still waiting to hear what type of demo setup could survive 7 hours of fires.
Is he saying the building was damaged and had fires, but was also demolished? Oh dear. I get the feeling he doesn't want to step on anybody's toes. That also means the movie is not going to please anyone.
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Just listened to Alex Jones' broadcast today. He went into the second hour before plugging LCFC, which again reinforced my impression that Jones and the LC kids are somewhat on the skids. He made a claim that he personally will have to declare bankruptcy if Loose Change isn't a success. He talked about the costs of the movie, claiming that the check for the animation alone was $40,000, and went on to include the costs of four people living for two years, which made me scratch my head a bit. Dylan, Jason, Korey and...? One of the hangers on? Dylan's girlfriend split a long time ago. That cute office assistant, Kris or something like that? He said something about how there were four or five investors in the movie, and that was why they couldn't put it up on YouTube or GoogleVideo, and that they were going to pull down the versions that were up because they had to make money to encourage future videos. Except that the video Gravy linked to was posted by Louder than Words themselves (couldn't tell with the one JamesB linked because it was nearly fullscreen).
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I like the fact that, near the end, they say that the comic book version of the 9/11 Commission Report will tell you all you need to know Did Avery et al read the actual report, or just the comic book?
While I sympathized with the idea of a graphic adaptation, the actual execution was embarrassing in parts.
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The 1.3GB MOV file from thepiratebay is the one to get...it is complete (2 hr 9 min) and full resolution. I think the 600MB one has errors in it.

They left those in on purpose. Bermass said so himself.
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Why does Dylan feel the need to lower his voice?
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Dylan, Jason, Korey and...? One of the hangers on? Dylan's girlfriend split a long time ago. That cute office assistant, Kris or something like that?
That's Kristina 'Kristy' Kissner.

Their general manager, bookkeeper, financial advisor and publicity director along with general offices duties, scheduling and phone support.

http://www.loosechange911.com/crew.shtml
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That's Kristina 'Kristy' Kissner.

Their general manager, bookkeeper, financial advisor and publicity director along with general offices duties, scheduling and phone support.

http://www.loosechange911.com/crew.shtml
KKK eh? Hmmmmmmm
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Interesting. If Jones is paying for LTW's living, and he goes bankrupt if LCFC fails, then if this does fail will the Truth Movement effectively collapse? God I hope so...

Didn't Avery brag that LCFC cost over 1 million to make? I'm a little curious as to where all that million went if only 40 grand went to the CG animations, and figureing that would probably be the most expensive part since the rest is just interviews with a camera and footage previously used i the other versions.
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I think the number of advertisements is a slight indicator of their financial desperation. They want to milk out all the money, while they still can.

Today I counted 35 (yes that's thirty-five) different advertisements on prisonplanet.com frontpage alone, including the advertisements squeezed among the actual article topics. And I didn't even include the several "subscribe to prisonplanet.tv" or "advertise with us" ads. Those would have brought the number close to 40.

Their frontpage is so complex with all the flashing ads nowadays, it's not pleasent for the eye, even if you forget all the repulsive content inside. The ad count has incresed dramatically over the last year or so. Nowadays, you can't even see the "News In Focus" highlights, before you have scrolled down a page full of flashing ads. That's also very telling. Ad's first, important news later.
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At around 1:15 Dylan maintains that the steel embedded in World Financial Centre 3 weighed 'upto 300 tons'. Since it was surely from the 80th floor or above of WTC1 - wouldn't 5/6 tons be a better estimate? Even the heaviest column trees were IIRC 22 tons.

Of course Dylan doesn't explain that this steel could never be propelled by cutter charges, or by thermite.

This is followed by a harebrained comment by Gordon Ross, who cannot see any reason why steel would land 'tens of metres' away from the towers.
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Around 1:24 Dylan says they stopped using asbestos fireproofing at the 64th floor of WTC2. Was it not the 34th floor of WTC1 with none in WTC2?

He also claims that asbestos removal would have cost over $1 billion.
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At around 1:15 Dylan maintains that the steel embedded in World Financial Centre 3 weighed 'upto 300 tons'. Since it was surely from the 80th floor or above of WTC1 - wouldn't 5/6 tons be a better estimate? Even the heaviest column trees were IIRC 22 tons.
Someone should tell Dylan not to believe anything official without double-checking!

The '300 tons'-mistake was made by FEMA, and, strangely, THAT Dylan believes!

911myths has is all.
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I thought by far the most compelling video he showed was of George Bush holding the news conference in which he wanted to have the testimonial behind closed doors and not under oath, with Dick Cheney (In order to get their evidence straight wink wink).

It was very edgy and mysterious, which indeed is the loose change way. And it proves to be effective propoganda. At least in my eyes.

I managed to hammer it into myself however that this proves absolutely nothing other than it is a bit fishy.

Any takers on this?
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I thought by far the most compelling video he showed was of George Bush holding the news conference in which he wanted to have the testimonial behind closed doors and not under oath, with Dick Cheney (In order to get their evidence straight wink wink).

It was very edgy and mysterious, which indeed is the loose change way. And it proves to be effective propoganda. At least in my eyes.

I managed to hammer it into myself however that this proves absolutely nothing other than it is a bit fishy.

Any takers on this?
Well, effective propaganda that also happens to be wrong is dangerous, don't you think?
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The 1.3GB MOV file from thepiratebay is the one to get...it is complete (2 hr 9 min) and full resolution. I think the 600MB one has errors in it.
I think know that the 1.3GB movie will have the same and more errors!
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