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Old 19th February 2018, 04:20 PM   #1
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9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”

Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E
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Old 19th February 2018, 04:27 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E

Did anyone make a rational point?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E
Four goofs for the price of one?
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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
Did anyone make a rational point?
If I did smilies I'd give you a trillion laughing dogs.
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Originally Posted by DGM View Post
Did anyone make a rational point?
On the top of a head, maybe.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

It's like kindergarteners arguing about what Santa does if a house doesn't have a chimney.
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I wonder if anyone will actually sit through the whole two hours. I made it five minutes.........

It has huge support.......21 people have clicked on it so far.
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Old 19th February 2018, 05:15 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
It's like kindergarteners arguing about what Santa does if a house doesn't have a chimney.
Wins thread.
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LOL...

Prof. Fetzer has truly crossed the event horizon, and living in his own reality. God help him!
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Big Nuke advocates sound horrible. Worse than Big Tobacco, no doubt.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E
Here you go, Steve. This will take care of Fox, Olson and Fetzer arguments.

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This is a fizzle - very low yield (0.188 KT). See any of that kind of explosion on 9/11? Didn't think so ...
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9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”


Well, let's see, dismantled and hollow requires hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of New York residents and visitors to fail to notice a major engineering project in the middle of a major business district, along with tens of thousands of people faking being employed at the site, over a period measured in decades. Meanwhile, micro nukes requires a similar number of people to have missed the massive "Bang", electromagnetic pulse effects, and lingering illnesses due to radioactive contamination (again, almost measured over decades now).

Nope, sorry, I can't decide which is stupider. You'll have to up your game.
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Here you go, Steve. This will take care of Fox, Olson and Fetzer arguments.

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This is a fizzle - very low yield (0.188 KT). See any of that kind of explosion on 9/11? Didn't think so ...
.188KT = 188 Kg of explosives. No nuke required. It would be so small that it would not demolish the building.



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9/11 – World Trade Center: dismantled and hollow vs “micro nukes”


Well, let's see, dismantled and hollow requires hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of New York residents and visitors to fail to notice a major engineering project in the middle of a major business district, along with tens of thousands of people faking being employed at the site, over a period measured in decades. Meanwhile, micro nukes requires a similar number of people to have missed the massive "Bang", electromagnetic pulse effects, and lingering illnesses due to radioactive contamination (again, almost measured over decades now).

Nope, sorry, I can't decide which is stupider. You'll have to up your game.
You forgot the mushroom cloud. This would appear with any large explosion.
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It's like kindergarteners arguing about what Santa does if a house doesn't have a chimney.
You own me a new keyboard, and you can damned well come around here and mop up the mess you've made of my computer desk!!
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Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
.188KT = 188 Kg of explosives. No nuke required. It would be so small that it would not demolish the building.
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Ahem.

.188 KT - that's Kilo Tons
=188 Tons =< 188,000 kg
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I wonder if anyone will actually sit through the whole two hours.
I did.

It wasn't so bad. It was an elimination-style debate which opens with the panelists seated except for Fetzer, who refused to come to the table until he was coaxed over by the promise of an extra raspberry jello if he behaves himself.

Once began, a debate question is given to the panel, the answer to which apparently involves either screaming like a monkey, sobbing hysterically or flinging their jello at one another. Olson had to be consoled and given his picture book of kittens after taking a particularly nasty jello wad to his forehead, which brought on a 36 minute round of uncontrolled babbling and howling laughter by the other panelists.

I was rather disappointed as there doesn't seem to have been a declared winner. To be eliminated apparently involved two large orderlies rushing into the debate and tackling the slowest panelist. The remaining panelists would mimic playing kazoos while the captured panelist is straightjacketed and dragged from the room. This scene is repeated until one man is left at the table, playing with a booger. I won't spoil the ending by saying who that was.

Lastly, if the mods would, the video needs an NSFW tag - their gowns don't close in the back and there's several minutes of some rather gruesome footage you won't be able to un-see anytime soon.

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You'd think they'd learn. This happens every time they serve raspberry jello.
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Ahem.

.188 KT - that's Kilo Tons
=188 Tons =< 188,000 kg
Yes you are right. So anyone seen a mushroom cloud over the world trade centre on 9/11? If not then no blast.
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This needs to be said:

A nuclear bomb detonation is obvious from the second it goes off up to decades later. I don'r care how small they think it is.
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This needs to be said:

A nuclear bomb detonation is obvious from the second it goes off up to decades later. I don'r care how small they think it is.
This only applies if you subscribe to reality. There is no evidence any of the participants do.
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A debate of the Mad versus the Crazy?

Why would I waste two hours on it?
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post

Why would I waste two hours on it?
I doubt anyone has.
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This needs to be said:

A nuclear bomb detonation is obvious from the second it goes off up to decades later. I don'r care how small they think it is.
First there was the Hush-a-Bomb. Then the mad scientists of THEM designed and built the diabolically clever Hush-a-Nuke.
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http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/ has identified several core columns seen sticking up after the collapse to the ones shown in the blueprints. There is no room for any hollow concrete core or whatever.
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E

Once, many years ago, at a theme restaurant called Medieval Manor, I witnessed two men under the influence of alcohol "jousting" one another using loaves of French bread held between their thighs.

Had one of the loaves been labeled "Hollow Towers" and the other one "Mini Nukes," it would have been a veritable prophecy.

Dilly dilly!
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This only applies if you subscribe to reality. There is no evidence any of the participants do.
I know, but it also goes back to the failed logic of a 9-11 conspiracy.

If micro-nukes actually existed, and terrorists had them I'm pretty sure this fact would be terrifying enough to institute whatever constitutional revisions needed to search everyone, everywhere, and at any time. Hell, most people would hold the door open for the NWO cops.

But no, they were secret nukes that nobody, including Los Alamos, has ever seen.
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It's like kindergarteners arguing about what Santa does if a house doesn't have a chimney.
Nominated. This is so perfect.


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I wonder if anyone will actually sit through the whole two hours. I made it five minutes.........
Same with me but I just wanted to see what crazy people look and sound like.
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Links to a video showing people going in and out of the building to prove there was no-one in the building.
Priceless!
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I'm more surprised Steve is still active...
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http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/ has identified several core columns seen sticking up after the collapse to the ones shown in the blueprints. There is no room for any hollow concrete core or whatever.


What does that mean?
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What does that mean?
That an idea that seems utterly stupid at first glance is, in fact, on further investigation, still utterly stupid.

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http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/ has identified several core columns seen sticking up after the collapse to the ones shown in the blueprints. There is no room for any hollow concrete core or whatever.
What hollow concrete core? There were spare columns, undocumented ones? wtf is going on?
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What hollow concrete core? There were spare columns, undocumented ones? wtf is going on?
Apparently, the search for a realistice explanation for free fall of the towers is still going on.

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Apparently, the search for a realistice explanation for free fall of the towers is still going on.

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Oh, god, he's gone full Christophera! We're doomed! DOOOOMED!!!!
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E
It's sort of like debating whether the sky is yellow with green stripes, or purple with pink polka dots.
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It's sort of like debating whether the sky is yellow with green stripes, or purple with pink polka dots.
Fact is, the only people who can see either version are already Fruit Loops™
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Well these guy never really knew what critical thinking is. If they got to nukes today, imagine what they will think in another 10, 20 years. I means what's next ?
I mean sure, aliens. But that's kinda old. Also wasn't it mentioned with 9/11 already ?
Superman ? Gandalf the Grey ? God Himself conspiring with Bush administration ?
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Originally Posted by yankee451 View Post
Don Fox, Joe Olson and Jim Fetzer are big nuke advocates, and they square off against yours truly in this long (2-hour) discussion that eventually gets a little heated.

https://youtu.be/12drkO0du-E
Four broke clocks, with no hands. Heated BS, move the discussion into a dark barn, grow some mushrooms.
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Old 21st February 2018, 01:34 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by beachnut View Post
Four broke clocks, with no hands. Heated BS, move the discussion into a dark barn, grow some mushrooms.
Wise words. Mushrooms are good in so many ways.
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