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Old 24th January 2019, 06:17 AM   #41
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How to escape a black hole: Simulations provide new clues about powerful plasma jets

"Black holes are known for their voracious appetites, binging on matter with such ferocity that not even light can escape once it's swallowed up.

Less understood, though, is how black holes purge energy locked up in their rotation, jetting near-light-speed plasmas into space to opposite sides in one of the most powerful displays in the universe. These jets can extend outward for millions of light years."

https://phys.org/news/2019-01-black-...-powerful.html

""We hope to provide a more consistent picture of the whole problem," he said."

For those who believe in the existence of pulling force / curved space, explaining that thing is not problematic! It is impossible to explain it with current theories because the pulling force is the Emperor's naked.

Some self-evident thing.

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Team discovers new way supermassive black holes are 'fed'

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-team...holes-fed.html

"The research team identified two additional recently reported events of black holes "switched on," which share the same emission properties as AT 2017bgt. These three events form a new and tantalizing class of black hole re-activation.

"We are not yet sure about the cause of this dramatic and sudden enhancement in the black holes' feeding rate," concludes Dr. Trakhtenbrot. "There are many known ways to speed up the growth of giant black holes, but they typically happen during much longer timescales.""



Scientists are not able to consider the possibility that the sudden re-activation of the feeding rate of supermassive targets is just the opposite of what they assume.

No material for one two appear near supermassive objects in their surroundings !!!

It pops out of them self !!!

They are also discharged, just like the stars, but as an expanding dark substance for us.

And when such a cloud of expanding dark matter expands into a perceptible substance, it happens very quickly, NOT SLOWLY !!!

"There are many ways to speed up the growth of Giant Black Holes." "

FAST, not slow.

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Astronomers use split images of quasars to produce a new estimate of the Hubble constant ...
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How to escape a black hole: Simulations provide new clues about powerful plasma jets...
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Team discovers new way supermassive black holes are 'fed'...
The same gibberish and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

Black holes do not emit any matter. Especially his delusion of "expanding dark substance". The article is about black holes ejecting matter that is outside of the black hole .
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How to escape a black hole: Simulations provide new clues about powerful plasma jets
Plasma jets do not originate from inside black holes. They consist of matter and energy that are whipped up from just outside the black hole into spirals, which forces them to jet away from the black hole in ways that we can detect. There's no violation of the standard model of black holes - nothing is escaping from inside the event horizon.
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The same gibberish and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

Black holes do not emit any matter. Especially his delusion of "expanding dark substance". The article is about black holes ejecting matter that is outside of the black hole .
There is sciencepeople who say that black holes can radiate one moment more power than all the stars in the universe.

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There is sciencepeople are scientists who say that black holes can radiate one moment more power than all the stars in the universe.
FTFY

Yet you don't bother to link to them.
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FTFY

Yet you don't bother to link to them.

Physicists use supercomputers and AI to create the most accurate model yet of black hole mergers

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-phys...ate-black.html

"One of the most cataclysmic events to occur in the cosmos involves the collision of two black holes. Formed from the deathly collapse of massive stars, black holes are incredibly compact—a person standing near a stellar-mass black hole would feel gravity about a trillion times more strongly than they would on Earth. When two objects of this extreme density spiral together and merge, a fairly common occurrence in space, they radiate more power than all the stars in the universe."

First the theory is developed that there are black gaps that cannot escape.

And then it is claimed that the combination of two black holes will result in a tremendous escape of radiation?!?


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If two bodies are orbiting each other and they are brought closer together then that will release energy. If we are talking about black holes each 20+ times the mass of the sun then that is a lot of energy. I think that is what they talking about. Though most of the articles I have read are rather vague about this point so I could be wrong.
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If two bodies are orbiting each other and they are brought closer together then that will release energy. If we are talking about black holes each 20+ times the mass of the sun then that is a lot of energy. I think that is what they talking about. Though most of the articles I have read are rather vague about this point so I could be wrong.
So, you have two black holes which mass in infinity "inside" singularity ja when this two infinity mass collide, you get lot of radiation.

Ok. Where that radiation come from?

You say, black hole centre is singularity. Infinity density mass.

And then you have lot of radiation hokkus pokkus!!?

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So, you have two black holes which mass in infinity "inside" singularity ja when this two infinity mass collide, you get lot of radiation.

Ok. Where that radiation come from?

You say, black hole centre is singularity. Infinity density mass.

And then you have lot of radiation hokkus pokkus!!?

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Your post makes no sense. Please revise and resubmit.
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So, you have two black holes which mass in infinity "inside" singularity ja when this two infinity mass collide, you get lot of radiation.

Ok. Where that radiation come from?

You say, black hole centre is singularity. Infinity density mass.

And then you have lot of radiation hokkus hocus pokkus pocus!!?

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Makes about as much sense as PoK ever does.
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The radiation is in the form of gravity waves. This happens BEFORE they merge, not after. The gravity waves increase in strength and frequency then at the moment of merger suddenly stop. The gravity waves radiate the rotational energy of the black holes. Nothing more. The black holes themselves emit no other radiation of any type.
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There is sciencepeople who say that black holes can radiate one moment more power than all the stars in the universe.
The same gibberish, ignorance and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

There is scientific evidence that quasars are active supermassive black holes that are radiating light and radiation from their accrual disc, outside of the black hole. There is also the merger of black holes: Physicists use supercomputers and AI to create the most accurate model yet of black hole mergers where once again nothing material comes from inside the black holes. Gravitational waves carry away energy which have an equivalent mass , E=mc^2.

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Physicists use supercomputers and AI to create the most accurate model yet of black hole mergers

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-phys...ate-black.html

"One of the most cataclysmic events to occur in the cosmos involves the collision of two black holes. Formed from the deathly collapse of massive stars, black holes are incredibly compact—a person standing near a stellar-mass black hole would feel gravity about a trillion times more strongly than they would on Earth. When two objects of this extreme density spiral together and merge, a fairly common occurrence in space, they radiate more power than all the stars in the universe."
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The paper does not say that radiation escapes from inside black holes.
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So, you have two black holes which mass in infinity "inside" singularity ja when this two infinity mass collide, you get lot of radiation.
The same gibberish, ignorance and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

There has been no radiation detected from inside merging black holes.
There is no "infinity mass", black holes have finite masses. Gravitational waves have been detected from black holes with masses of about 20 to 60 solar masses. There are mathematical singularities where the density goes to infinity.
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After 33 days price is going to be 138 000 000 euros.
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So, you have two black holes which mass in infinity "inside" singularity ja when this two infinity mass collide, you get lot of radiation.

Ok. Where that radiation come from?

You say, black hole centre is singularity. Infinity density mass.

And then you have lot of radiation hokkus pokkus!!?

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The thing that you have again failed to understand is that this energy comes from just outside the black holes. Nothing is being emitted from inside the black holes.
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Ultra-luminous infrared galaxy with strong ionized-gas outflow discovered

https://phys.org/news/2019-01-ultra-...nized-gas.html

Galaxys born inside to outside.

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"The researchers found that J0916a showcases signatures of an extremely strong outflow in its emission line profiles. They noted that high- and low-ionization potential lines show large velocity dispersions and shifts in relative to the stellar absorption lines. "J0916a shows extreme outflow not only in the [O III] emission line, but also in the [O II] emission line," the paper reads.

The study reveals that the outflow in J0916a most likely extends to a radius of about 13,000 light years. The astronomers say that this outflow is among the most powerful observed in ULIRGs and quasars at redshifts between 0.3 and 1.6, as it has the mass outflow and energy ejection rates estimated to be at a level of around 500 solar masses per year and approximately 400 tredecillion erg/second respectively."

Inside to outside.

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Active galaxies point to new physics of cosmic expansion

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-gala...expansion.html

""However, in the earlier phases that we can only probe with quasars, we find a discrepancy between the observed evolution of the universe and what we would predict based on the standard cosmological model."
Looking into this previously poorly explored period of cosmic history with the help of quasars, the astronomers have revealed a possible tension in the standard model of cosmology, which might require the addition of extra parameters to reconcile the data with theory.

"One of the possible solutions would be to invoke an evolving dark energy, with a density that increases as time goes by," says Guido."

Don't understand that no energy can make anything to space itself?!?

According to the OSP model, the expanding visible universe itself moves at an accelerating pace towards such a space area where the power pushing the background is denser and denser.

And as the expanding densities of the nuclei of the expanding atoms themselves expand all the time, because of that, more and more of the thrusting force of the entire background, which causes the expanding pushing force in expanding densities to dissipate / expand into space faster and faster, is constantly pushing through them.

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Ultra-luminous infrared galaxy with strong ionized-gas outflow discovered

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https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-gala...expansion.html
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Ultra-luminous infrared galaxy with strong ionized-gas outflow discovered

https://phys.org/news/2019-01-ultra-...nized-gas.html

Galaxys born inside to outside.

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"The researchers found that J0916a showcases signatures of an extremely strong outflow in its emission line profiles. They noted that high- and low-ionization potential lines show large velocity dispersions and shifts in relative to the stellar absorption lines. "J0916a shows extreme outflow not only in the [O III] emission line, but also in the [O II] emission line," the paper reads.

The study reveals that the outflow in J0916a most likely extends to a radius of about 13,000 light years. The astronomers say that this outflow is among the most powerful observed in ULIRGs and quasars at redshifts between 0.3 and 1.6, as it has the mass outflow and energy ejection rates estimated to be at a level of around 500 solar masses per year and approximately 400 tredecillion erg/second respectively."

Inside to outside.

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Outflow from an active galaxy is not the same thing as outflow from beyond the event horizon of the black hole at its centre. Do you even know what high- and low-ionization potential lines are? What is the difference between the [O III] emission line and the [O II] emission line?

You show zero evidence that you actually understand these papers and what they're saying. You see language that seems to you to correlate with what you believe, and hold them up as evidence. The only thing they are evidence of is your own lack of understanding of physics.
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Outflow from an active galaxy is not the same thing as outflow from beyond the event horizon of the black hole at its centre. Do you even know what high- and low-ionization potential lines are? What is the difference between the [O III] emission line and the [O II] emission line?

You show zero evidence that you actually understand these papers and what they're saying. You see language that seems to you to correlate with what you believe, and hold them up as evidence. The only thing they are evidence of is your own lack of understanding of physics.
Expanding space is naked empire.

Lets try tell something about expanding space.

What happening for expanding space when space metric goordinate getting bigger?!?

Is there any kind of movement when expanding space expanding?

If, what moving and where?

If not, what happening when expanding space metric goordinate getting bigger?

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Old 30th January 2019, 12:52 PM   #74
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Expanding space is naked empire....
The same gibberish, ignorance and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

This is the utter stupidity of repeating already answered for years and stupid questions.
Expansion of the universe. A metric is a measure of the distance between points.
When the metric "gets bigger", spacetime expands !
When spacetime expands, the distances between galaxies gets larger - this is the will known "movement" called Hubble's law !
What is moving is galaxies! Where is moving is further apart from each other!
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Old 30th January 2019, 02:05 PM   #75
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"What is moving is galaxies! Where is moving is further apart from each other!"

If galaxygroups moving "in" space faraway from eachother, you dont need expanding space.

So, why you keep saying that space expanding?

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Old 30th January 2019, 02:14 PM   #76
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"The expansion of the universe is the increase of the distance between two distant parts of the universe with time.[1] It is an intrinsic expansion whereby the scale of space itself changes. The universe does not expand "into" anything and does not require space to exist "outside" it. Technically, neither space nor objects in space move. Instead it is the metric governing the size and geometry of spacetime itself that changes in scale."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expa...f_the_universe

It is very very easy say, space expanding.

But nobody cant tell how.

Where is space expansion based?

What makes it possible to expand it?

The substance can expand in space out into the already existing space because the substance consists of separate parts that move in space in relation to each other.

How could space itself expand?

Space is not in any background space where it could grow.

So tell us something about what could make it possible to expand its space at all?

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Old 30th January 2019, 02:20 PM   #77
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We dont need expanding space

This is because nucleus of atoms expanding and recycling expanding pushing force which have a nature of expanding light which moving faster and faster same way what matter and light expanding.

We dont need curving space.

This is because all expanding light interactive with eachother.

So, we can explain al this three phenomena

1. Cosmology way red shifted light.

2. Bending light near Sun

3. Gravity red shifted light

with out hokkus pokkus expanding and curving space.

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Old 30th January 2019, 02:28 PM   #78
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Exclamation A total delsion that Hubble's law means no expansion of spacetime

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
f galaxygroups moving "in" space faraway from eachother, you dont need expanding space.
The same gibberish, ignorance and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

A total delusion that detecting galaxies moving away from each other as predicted by expanding spacetime (Hubble's law) means there is no expanding spacetime!

The Hubble–Lemaître law started with Lemaître deriving from GR that galaxies will have a linear law between redshift and distance and showing that some galaxies do have the relationship in a lesser journal. Hubble gave more data in a well known journal.

ETA: Make that abysmal ignorance if "galaxygroups" means the local galaxy groups. The Big Bang predicts and the papers by Lemaître, Hubble and other astronomers confirm that the Local Group and Virgo Cluster will not fit the linear relationship exactly. This is because the galaxies interact with each other. The galaxies have a peculiar velocity. That is large compared to the Hubble speed for near galaxies. Peculiar velocities are relatively tiny for far away for galaxies. Thus there is a large scatter in the redshift versus distance plot until we leave the local galaxies. Modern plots with galaxies out to large z have an obviously straight line.

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Exclamation A total delusion that people just say "space expanding"

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
"The expansion of the universe is the increase of the distance between two distant parts of the universe with time.[1] It is an intrinsic expansion whereby the scale of space itself changes. The universe does not expand "into" anything and does not require space to exist "outside" it. Technically, neither space nor objects in space move. Instead it is the metric governing the size and geometry of spacetime itself that changes in scale."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expa...f_the_universe
The same gibberish, ignorance and lies about science that was in the 10 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread and currently locked continuation.

A total delusion that people just say "space expanding".

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Old 30th January 2019, 03:54 PM   #80
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Thumbs down 10 years of ignorant delusions and lies do not explain anything

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
We dont need expanding space ...
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