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Old 24th October 2018, 09:28 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Debbie Wasserman Schultz as well.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WFLAGayle...16937779445760
NBC says the return address on the bomb envelopes were hers.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:32 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
NBC says the return address on the bomb envelopes were hers.
Proof that it's a Democratic false flag!

We need Republican one party rule now!1
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:32 AM   #83
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John Brennan was a target, too?
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:32 AM   #84
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Just looking around and found an article saying the Soros "pipe bomb" contained real bomb components like black gunpowder, but nothing that it was in fact a real bomb. None of these others have been reported to be real bombs, and of course none of them have exploded. So, whether or not this terrorist is actually trying to kill people is unknown at this time.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:36 AM   #85
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Building with Kamala Harris's office evacuated after a suspicious package was found there.

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Old 24th October 2018, 09:37 AM   #86
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All this on the same day. I don't know if the explosives are real, but I'm not sure a single person could do all this. On the other hand if it's many persons, it was most probably coordinated.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:40 AM   #87
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Eric Holder too.

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Old 24th October 2018, 09:41 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
All this on the same day. I don't know if the explosives are real, but I'm not sure a single person could do all this. On the other hand if it's many persons, it was most probably coordinated.
Haven't they all gone through the mail? Pretty easy to just drop them off on the same day, even if it means driving around to a few different post offices to try to hide the trail. (ETA: I mean, multiple days to make the devices, but once ready, one day to send them on the way).

Which also means it might be easier to find who did it. False return addresses or not, they'll be able to backtrack the packages to the point of origin pretty quickly. Check security video, interview staff. It could go pretty fast.

I hope.

ETA: They were apparently unable to do that with the anthrax letters in 2001 - but shipping and package tracking technology and standards have advanced quickly since then. Letters can be sent from public mailboxes, I don't know if packages can, a person might need to go into the post office to do that, or at least use an automated machine. The anthrax letters were sent over a period of a few weeks, compared to a bunch of packages mailed the same say (presumably).

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Old 24th October 2018, 09:47 AM   #89
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Mark Rubio tweets
"An attack on an American who happens to be a Democrat, Republican or Independent is an attack on America. The terrorist behind this will soon find out that while a free people have politics that are conflictive,if you try to kill any of us you will have to face all of us."
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:48 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Haven't they all gone through the mail? Pretty easy to just drop them off on the same day, even if it means driving around to a few different post offices to try to hide the trail. (ETA: I mean, multiple days to make the devices, but once ready, one day to send them on the way).

Which also means it might be easier to find who did it. False return addresses or not, they'll be able to backtrack the packages to the point of origin pretty quickly. Check security video, interview staff. It could go pretty fast.

I hope.
ABC says the Soros package was hand-delivered.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/billionair...ry?id=58683450
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:52 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
Mark Rubio tweets
"An attack on an American who happens to be a Democrat, Republican or Independent is an attack on America. The terrorist behind this will soon find out that while a free people have politics that are conflictive,if you try to kill any of us you will have to face all of us."
If only Rubio was consistently this patriotic and likeable.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:52 AM   #92
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
Mark Rubio tweets
"An attack on an American who happens to be a Democrat, Republican or Independent is an attack on America. The terrorist behind this will soon find out that while a free people have politics that are conflictive,if you try to kill any of us you will have to face all of us."
Little Marco is looking pretty tough by comparison.

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Mr Trump said: "They had a very bad original concept, it was carried out poorly and the cover-up was the worst in the history of cover-ups.
"Whoever thought of that idea, I think is in big trouble. And they should be in big trouble."
Quote:
Kushner said, “We’re getting facts in from multiple places.”

“Once those facts come in, the secretary of state will work with our national security team to help us determine what we want to believe and what we think is credible and what we think is not credible,” he said.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:56 AM   #93
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Originally Posted by 332nd View Post
Secret Service saying that there no bomb was sent to the White House.

Edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/johnrober...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
But there needed to be one in order to advance the "they are after both sides" argument.

Now what are the Right-wing terrorist apologists going to do?
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Now what are the Right-wing terrorist apologists going to do?
Well, surely deny that the perpetrator in question is right-wing.
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Old 24th October 2018, 10:00 AM   #95
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One thing I found slightly amusing before the scale of this became clear: When still in the studio and doing the initial report, I could swear that CNN's Jim Sciutto said an IUD had been delivered. (He did follow up immediately with saying "Improvised Explosive Device".)

But then earlier today the chyron read "OCTOBER SUPRISE", so maybe it was the same copy writer.
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Old 24th October 2018, 10:16 AM   #97
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This close to the midterms, is the GOP going to be able to find a democrat to falsely accuse and properly spin this as a false flag operation?
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Old 24th October 2018, 10:20 AM   #98
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Hey, they deserve to be blown up since they are "enemies of the people".
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Weird phraseology?

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Kushner said, “We’re getting facts in from multiple places.”

“Once those facts come in, the secretary of state will work with our national security team to help us determine what we want to believe and what we think is credible and what we think is not credible,” he said.
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Originally Posted by Shalamar View Post
Proof that it's a Democratic false flag!

We need Republican one party rule now!1
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This close to the midterms, is the GOP going to be able to find a democrat to falsely accuse and properly spin this as a false flag operation?
It will become necessary to go to one-party rule so that the GOP can protect the Dems from themselves.

"Look, we TRIED to let you have your own party, and you just ended up sending bombs to each other. Maybe someday when you grow up, we can think about letting you participate in some elections again.

Maybe. If you're good."
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The US has been in full retard mode for 3 years now. Anyone surprised by this?

My only surprise is that something like this took so long to happen.

Thankfully, nobody has been hurt or killed (fingers crossed it stays that way) by the actions of this low-IQ cult nutjob(s).

Can't wait to see how Trump handles this situation, particularly if and how he's going to carry on with his standard daily verbal vomit of hate-filled rhetoric, insults, and hyperbole aimed at democrats/liberals.



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Old 24th October 2018, 10:23 AM   #102
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Disgruntled employee. Soros needs to do a better job of vetting his thugs.
Wow. You're seriously being an ass here.

There was a (half-assed) attempt on the man's life (and another on Hillary's, if I understand correctly) and you spin it to make him the perpetrator rather than the intended victim?

Serious dickishness.
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
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Making a crude bomb is not all the difficult. You can do it with stuff you can buy at any electronics or Home Depot type store, except for the expolisves,and those are not hard to buy legally. Hell, you could make explosives from chemicals you can buy at any chemical supply house.
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I find it slightly curious that they noted that John Brennan's name was spelled wrong on the label but they have not mentioned the (fake) return address that says it was mailed from SUNRISE, FLORIDS.

eta: So was Schultz name.

https://twitter.com/search?q=acosta&src=typd

I'm not implying that the omission means anything.

Also: All caps? Misspellings? Looks like [someone's] Tweets...

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People are attacking their political opponents? Say It isn't so!
Sorry, are you suggesting that it's appropriate to attempt to assassinate one's political opponents? We shouldn't be horrified at such attempts?

Just to be clear, you are probably my political opponent. So, you are committed to the view that mailing a bomb to you would roughly be okay, at least if you were a bit more influential than the average Joe?
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Well, surely deny that the perpetrator in question is right-wing.
We don't know yet, but I would put very heavy bets that the perps were right wingers.
What is scary aoubt this is I doubt all these bombs at the same time are coindicidence. We are dealing with a organixed group here.
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We don't know yet, but I would put very heavy bets that the perps were right wingers.
What is scary aoubt this is I doubt all these bombs at the same time are coindicidence. We are dealing with a organixed group here.
It doesn't take more than one person to mail a bunch of packages, so "organized group" may be a bit premature to declare.
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Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy View Post
This close to the midterms, is the GOP going to be able to find a democrat to falsely accuse and properly spin this as a false flag operation?


Read some of the twitter threads linked above. They don't need to do this, their base is already doing it for them.

We've gotten to the point where Trump doesn't even have to lie to his base to get them riled up, they'll quite happily lie to themselves.
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I missed that link. The one where the suspect has been identified and proved to be a right winger.
Right. Could totally be the case that the attempted bomber is a liberal dissatisfied with Soros's effectiveness.

No, seriously, it's conceivable that the attacker isn't a conservative. I tell you what. We'll wait and see (I think that a suspect will likely be identified). In the meantime, how about a little wager?

If'n it's really clear (both of us agree) that the mailer is conservative, then I get your little icon rights, and if it's obvious he's not a conservative, then you get my poor (dead) dog taken off to be replaced by the image of your choice. Let's make it a one month wager.

Going for it? Seriously committed to the view that the bomber isn't on the right side of the fence? 'Cause I l think he is really likely to be over there. Conceivably might not be, but still really likely.
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Weird phraseology?
Yes. Very odd, and maybe revealing.

Just to be clear, that was in reference to the murder in the Saudi consulate in Turkey of a Washington Post journalist.
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Odds are good that the bomber is a right wing nut job given soros' infamy on among right wing nut jobs. There's a small chance its a random nut job with some idiosyncratic agenda like the Unabomber though.

Political violence* is always wrong regardless of the culprit.

*That is until I decide the government needs to be overthrown, then itabsolutely appropriate and anyone who disagrees is a counter-revolutionary reactionary in need of reeducation.
Kinda weird footnote there. What are you saying?

I think there are situations in which violence is appropriate. They are, I hope, rare. I have no opinion about reeducation, aside from the obvious fact that it is abused rather a lot.
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Right. Could totally be the case that the attempted bomber is a liberal dissatisfied with Soros's effectiveness.

No, seriously, it's conceivable that the attacker isn't a conservative. I tell you what. We'll wait and see (I think that a suspect will likely be identified). In the meantime, how about a little wager?

If'n it's really clear (both of us agree) that the mailer is conservative, then I get your little icon rights, and if it's obvious he's not a conservative, then you get my poor (dead) dog taken off to be replaced by the image of your choice. Let's make it a one month wager.

Going for it? Seriously committed to the view that the bomber isn't on the right side of the fence? 'Cause I l think he is really likely to be over there. Conceivably might not be, but still really likely.
Are we on the same site? wagers? www.internationalskeptics.com
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Ha ha! It's funny that someone tried to kill a person we don't like.

Ha ha! Brilliant as usual, dear apple... Really funny. Keep it up, because, after all, Soros has different political opinions and so might as well try and kill him, am I right?
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Read some of the twitter threads linked above. They don't need to do this, their base is already doing it for them.

We've gotten to the point where Trump doesn't even have to lie to his base to get them riled up, they'll quite happily lie to themselves.
No, I meant literally. Start with a half assed investigation, track down roughly where the bombs where sent from, then find some camera footage of a man (obviously Hispanic, if possible) who happens to be a registered Democrat and start yelling HE DID IT! Then all the media runs DEMOCRAT BOMBS DEMOCRATS! headlines because I really don't think they could help themselves, and by the time everyone realises he's the wrong guy the midterms will be over. They've done this over and over and over, there's no question it would work, but can they pull it off in time?
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Ha ha! It's funny that someone tried to kill a person we don't like.

Ha ha! Brilliant as usual, dear apple... Really funny. Keep it up, because, after all, Soros has different political opinions and so might as well try and kill him, am I right?
Says the poster making wagers with other posters about who is responsible for these attacks.
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Are the chants at the rallies going to change to "Blow her up. Blow her up. Blow her up."?
Be fair.
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Says the poster making wagers with other posters about who is responsible for these attacks.
The wager's not meant to be a joke, but a sign of confidence in the prediction. I don't see how the two are equivalent.
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys View Post
Says the poster making wagers with other posters about who is responsible for these attacks.
Given that all the targets are targets of Right Wing Rhetoric, I would say that thinking that a right wing nutbjo is responsible is a reasonable hypothesis. No one is claiming it's a proven fact.
Nice attempt at a straw man, though.
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Old 24th October 2018, 10:53 AM   #119
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
The wager's not meant to be a joke, but a sign of confidence in the prediction. I don't see how the two are equivalent.
I never assumed it was meant to be a joke. Making wagers on serious, potentially life-threatening events is just as classless. Great you won, now tell that to the victim.
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Old 24th October 2018, 10:58 AM   #120
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Given that all the targets are targets of Right Wing Rhetoric, I would say that thinking that a right wing nutbjo is responsible is a reasonable hypothesis. No one is claiming it's a proven fact.
Nice attempt at a straw man, though.
Speculating is perfectly reasonable. However, making wagers among yourselves is classless if you ask me. Like betting what the over/under would be for the death toll on the Titanic once news broke that she was sinking.
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