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Old 4th August 2019, 05:58 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
"Emboldened" is the word you groped for and failed to find. LoL

Oo, the gravitas. Very few forums (fora?) have as many long-winded poseurs on them as ISF.
Racists suck. Please have the decency to hide under your rock until after the funerals.
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Old 4th August 2019, 06:04 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
Racists suck. Please have the decency to hide under your rock until after the funerals.
Just when you think Trump supporters can't be any worse, they prove yet again they just aren't real Americans. A vote for Trump is a vote for treason.
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Old 4th August 2019, 06:18 AM   #43
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There are two distinct issues that are being conflated here. I'm taking for granted that initial reports are accurate and that the manifesto is deeply racist and echoes Trump's rhetoric.

First, there is the question of whether racism, which evidently motivated the shooting, is to blame for the shooting and therefore those who spread racism should share the blame.

Second, there is the question of whether Trump's rhetoric in particular contributed to the shooter's motivation and whether Trump shares the blame.

Both are more difficult than they seem at first glance. Surely, the easy access to racist diatribes online has made racist extremism more prevalent. That seems undeniable, but it doesn't necessarily follow that everyone spreading racism shares equally in the blame for this shooting. Racism is a broad category, ranging from the explicitly violent and separatist movements to those who view immigrants as responsible for their woes and have unduly negative views therefore, but do not advocate violence. Differences in opinions expressed (as well as other factors) yield difference in blame.

The harder question is about Trump's rhetoric. His defenders will deny that there is any racism to be found there. This isn't really a debate worth having in this context, since our question is not whether Trump's words are racist but whether they embolden racists and if so, is he partially responsible for their actions? It seems to me that even were Trump literally the least racist person in the world, his rhetoric about "sending them back" and viewing asylum seekers as an "invasion"[1] may result in racist violence.

One isn't responsible in every case in which his words have (accidentally) encouraged bad acts, of course. The Beatles aren't responsible for Manson, obviously. But the connection between Trump's words and violent racism are pretty clear and Trump has a megaphone and knows it. At the very least, the continual us-vs-them rhetoric is grossly negligent, since everyone can see that some folk are being inspired to violence and this could be lessened by choosing less vitriolic expressions. Just tone some of the rhetoric down and there's less chance of another shooting like this --- though also less fervor in his political base. Much easier to turn out the vote if the voters think their livelihoods or lives are on the line.

Trump isn't calling for the killing of immigrants, obviously. Trump's words are nonetheless inspiring violence. Some defenders will disagree, but I think it's pretty clear. He is at the least blameworthy for not adjusting his rhetoric and speaking out more explicitly (before the act, say, rather than a tepid response after) to reject violence.

[1] That word by itself makes it hard to imagine Trump isn't racist.
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Old 4th August 2019, 07:20 AM   #44
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The fact that Trump's and the shooter's rhetoric are so close should make Trump pick his words more carefully in the future, and refrain from open racist comments and tactics.
That way we can tell whether he is really appalled by the reasons for the shooting, or if he is secretly supporting it or at least considers it the cost of business for his re-election on a campaign of racial divisiveness.
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Related to the actual shootings, were all the victims shot in front of or inside the Walmart? I saw live coverage on CNN yesterday where shoppers on the scene were saying they ran out of the Walmart towards other parts of the large mall but heard people yelling the shooter had already gone to another part of the mall. One woman said, "We weren't sure where to run."

The alleged gunman, winger Patrick Crusius, had issued a manifesto shortly before the carnage. In addition to advocating strict racial separatism, and that Hispanic immigration was ruining his life, he implied he expected to die. It was pointed out that when confronted by police Crusius immediately surrendered. He's now facing the certainty he will spend the rest of his life incarcerated. Below are images of Crusius in custody and entering the Walmart. The latter image is reportedly from a store cam:

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Old 4th August 2019, 07:49 AM   #46
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https://twitter.com/jackiekcalmes/st...01620690644992

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Manifesto: "Hispanic invasion of TX"
Trump tweets:
6/1/19--Mexico allowing "millions of people...to INVADE the US"
6/2--Mexico must "stop the invasion of our Country by Drug Dealers, Cartels, Human Traffickers..."
6/2--"what are [Dems] thinking as our Country is invaded..."
MORE

3/9/19--"I am stopping an invasion"
1/31--Sending troops to southern border "to stop the attempted invasion"
1/11--"an invasion!"
11/18--"the U.S. is ill-prepared for this invasion"
10/29--"This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!'

Trump tweets/3

6/24/18-- "We can't allow all of these people to invade our Country."
RTs of three people decrying 'invasion,' including one about "...ILLEGALS and 'REFUGEES' invading Texas."

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Manifesto: "The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc..."

Trump to rally: "...Democrats are even trying to give illegal immigrants the right to vote.”
There's also Trump's response to someone at one of his rallies shouting out that immigrants should be shot:

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
Related to the actual shootings, were all the victims shot in front of or inside the Walmart? I saw live coverage on CNN yesterday where shoppers on the scene were saying they ran out of the Walmart towards other parts of the large mall but heard people yelling the shooter had already gone to another part of the mall. One woman said, "We weren't sure where to run."

The alleged gunman, winger Patrick Crusius, had issued a manifesto shortly before the carnage. In addition to advocating strict racial separatism, and that Hispanic immigration was ruining his life, he implied he expected to die. It was pointed out that when confronted by police Crusius immediately surrendered. He's now facing the certainty he will spend the rest of his life incarcerated. Below are images of Crusius in custody and entering the Walmart. The latter image is reportedly from a store cam:

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He "expected to die", yet had concerns for protecting his hearing?
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Old 4th August 2019, 08:41 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Distracted1 View Post
He "expected to die", yet had concerns for protecting his hearing?
It's really only in movies that evil people are smart.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It's really only in movies that evil people are smart.
It's really only in movies that the good guys always win.
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Old 4th August 2019, 11:16 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
One isn't responsible in every case in which his words have (accidentally) encouraged bad acts, of course...
Humans are social animals. Behavior is contagious -- monkey see, monkey do. If the people in your social circle are gaining weight or getting divorced, you're more likely to gain weight or get divorced. Due to the influence of the Columbine killers, and the ritualistic massacres they've inspired, some media are being a little more reflective when it comes to identifying/glorifying the killer. Malcolm Gladwell:

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But Granovetter thought it was a mistake to focus on the decision-making processes of each rioter in isolation. In his view, a riot was not a collection of individuals, each of whom arrived independently at the decision to break windows. A riot was a social process, in which people did things in reaction to and in combination with those around them. Social processes are driven by our*thresholds—which he defined as the number of people who need to be doing some activity before we agree to join them. In the elegant theoretical model Granovetter proposed, riots were started by people with a threshold of zero—instigators willing to throw a rock through a window at the slightest provocation. Then comes the person who will throw a rock if someone else goes first. He has a threshold of one. Next in is the person with the threshold of two. His qualms are overcome when he sees the instigator and the instigator’s accomplice. Next to him is someone with a threshold of three, who would never break windows and loot stores unless there were three people right in front of him who were already doing that—and so on up to the hundredth person, a righteous upstanding citizen who nonetheless could set his beliefs aside and grab a camera from the broken window of the electronics store if everyone around him was grabbing cameras from the electronics store.
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The Christchurch shooter with his detailed manifesto, live-stream, and pop/alt-culture references has probably provided the ritualistic model for racist, lone-wolf terrorism. The kid in San Diego who attacked the synagogue was inspired by him, and so was the El Paso shooter. Their views were informed by discussions on 4chan/8chan.

Trump is largely a symptom of racism in this country (and the global push for nationalism), but it's also fair to say he's reduced some people's thresholds, especially with regard to making racist comments.
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Already the conspiracy theory is on facebook that the manifesto is a lie from 4chan and the shooter was actually a half-Hispanic(!) Antifa(!) terrorist.
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El Paso, Texas 2019. The "Send Them Back" massacre. If Trump can grope some women and Tweet some more racially motivated messages and lies he may really be enjoying his weekend.
Maybe he'll Tweet "It's cheaper than sending them back"

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Perhaps if you'd read beyond the first sentence of my post before posting a knee-jerk reply you'd have spotted that the point you've just made is the exact same point that I made.

I obviously read your whole post before picking the first sentence, which I disagreed with. That you contradict your sentence:
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I mean, he's half-right in a way.
... in the rest of your post doesn't make the sentence that you contradict less wrong: He isn't half-right. He isn't even half-right in a way.
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Already the conspiracy theory is on facebook that the manifesto is a lie from 4chan and the shooter was actually a half-Hispanic(!) Antifa(!) terrorist.

Also inspired by Trump:

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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
"Emboldened" is the word you groped for and failed to find.
That too, but empowered is the right word in the context of what he wrote. When your President is a racist (and he is a racist by any measure you can define) who either deliberately attacks ethnic and religious minorities or at the very least gives other attackers comfort ("fine people on both sides") in his attempts to divide the country along racial lines, then the white supremacists in his base DO feel empowered by his words to take action.


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Very few forums (fora?) have as many long-winded poseurs educated, intelligent and considered people on them as ISF.
FTFY

But if you don't like it here, or if you feel you are not smart enough to keep up with us, maybe Stormfront and 4Chan are more your style.

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
The fact that Trump's and the shooter's rhetoric are so close should make Trump pick his words more carefully in the future, and refrain from open racist comments and tactics.
This afternoon he, or whoever has charge of his Twitter account, began deleting all of the tweets referring to immigrants as "invaders". I suspect that is as close as we can expect him to ever come to acknowledging a measure of culpability.
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This afternoon he, or whoever has charge of his Twitter account, began deleting all of the tweets referring to immigrants as "invaders". I suspect that is as close as we can expect him to ever come to acknowledging a measure of culpability.
Is that true? Where did you learn that?
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Is that true? Where did you learn that?

Trump accused of deleting tweets in wake of El Paso shooting

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Signorile later confirmed that the deleted tweets did not actually contain the word “invaders” but continued to argue that Trump’s staff is attempting to “whitewash” his tweets. Signorile claims a tweet written by Trump about the El Paso shooting received an “enormous” amount backlash, so Trump or his team deleted it and reposted it hours later in an effort to hide the negative responses.

Trump's staff is deleting his worst tweets

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Trump accused of deleting tweets in wake of El Paso shooting




Trump's staff is deleting his worst tweets





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(Not clear to me if the dates included are the dates of the original tweet or the dates they were deleted. More tech-savvy forum members may be able to clear that up.)
Gawd they are stupid. If the administration had anyone left except empty desks and morons they'd know that they are just calling more attention to them. It's encouraging to me that when you're a bigot you can't hire intelligent staff. All the major news outlets and all of the Democratic presidential candidates and most of the staff of Democratic Congress members already have them saved.
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Donald Trump - Deleted Tweets
(Not clear to me if the dates included are the dates of the original tweet or the dates they were deleted. More tech-savvy forum members may be able to clear that up.)
It looks like the dates of the original tweet.
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That's prevarication; some of the tweets did contain the word "invasion", as can be seen in the screenshots posted earlier in the thread.
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Gawd they are stupid. If the administration had anyone left except empty desks and morons they'd know that they are just calling more attention to them. It's encouraging to me that when you're a bigot you can't hire intelligent staff. All the major news outlets and all of the Democratic presidential candidates and most of the staff of Democratic Congress members already have them saved.

That's because Der Trumpenführer is not a politician, and he has cleaned out all the politicians and replaced them with dumb-**** lobbyists and dickwit temps who don't know thing one about politics.

In any other country, what Der Trumpenführer is doing, and has been doing for the last three years would be political suicide. Not in America though.

I think he truly could shoot someone dead on 5th avenue, and the GOP would do nothing.
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Gawd they are stupid.
I'm just going to preemptively put in a "But her emails!" here, because we know what will somehow be brought up false equivalenize* the deleted tweets.



*I made that word up, but I like it.
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I think he truly could shoot someone dead on 5th avenue, and the GOP would do nothing.
That's just gross exaggeration. They wouldn't do nothing. They'd find some way to blame the guy who got shot, and attack people calling for a homicide investigation.
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I give it 48-72 hours for accurate information to come out. Not saying any of it here is incorrect.
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He "expected to die", yet had concerns for protecting his hearing?
And?
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That's just gross exaggeration. They wouldn't do nothing. They'd find some way to blame the guy who got shot, and attack people calling for a homicide investigation.
I sort of wish he would, at least try to. I mean, I'd like to know if there's a point at which these people will find their balls/ovaries and be loyal to the nation? I mean God damn, enough resigning, grow a pair of the appropriate sex organs and at least try to take back your party.
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El Paso, Texas 2019. The "Send Them Back" massacre. If Trump can grope some women and Tweet some more racially motivated messages and lies he may really be enjoying his weekend.
Maybe he'll Tweet "It's cheaper than sending them back"
What do you want to bet he wants to Tweet some of the dead were Mexican.

Someone will stop him saying that if they can.

Conveniently he won't mention the dead and wounded Mexicans were most likely those who had crossed the border legally to shop.
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There are two distinct issues that are being conflated here. I'm taking for granted that initial reports are accurate and that the manifesto is deeply racist and echoes Trump's rhetoric.

First, there is the question of whether racism, which evidently motivated the shooting, is to blame for the shooting and therefore those who spread racism should share the blame.

Second, there is the question of whether Trump's rhetoric in particular contributed to the shooter's motivation and whether Trump shares the blame.

Both are more difficult than they seem at first glance. Surely, the easy access to racist diatribes online has made racist extremism more prevalent. That seems undeniable, but it doesn't necessarily follow that everyone spreading racism shares equally in the blame for this shooting. Racism is a broad category, ranging from the explicitly violent and separatist movements to those who view immigrants as responsible for their woes and have unduly negative views therefore, but do not advocate violence. Differences in opinions expressed (as well as other factors) yield difference in blame.

The harder question is about Trump's rhetoric. His defenders will deny that there is any racism to be found there. This isn't really a debate worth having in this context, since our question is not whether Trump's words are racist but whether they embolden racists and if so, is he partially responsible for their actions? It seems to me that even were Trump literally the least racist person in the world, his rhetoric about "sending them back" and viewing asylum seekers as an "invasion"[1] may result in racist violence.

One isn't responsible in every case in which his words have (accidentally) encouraged bad acts, of course. The Beatles aren't responsible for Manson, obviously. But the connection between Trump's words and violent racism are pretty clear and Trump has a megaphone and knows it. At the very least, the continual us-vs-them rhetoric is grossly negligent, since everyone can see that some folk are being inspired to violence and this could be lessened by choosing less vitriolic expressions. Just tone some of the rhetoric down and there's less chance of another shooting like this --- though also less fervor in his political base. Much easier to turn out the vote if the voters think their livelihoods or lives are on the line.

Trump isn't calling for the killing of immigrants, obviously. Trump's words are nonetheless inspiring violence. Some defenders will disagree, but I think it's pretty clear. He is at the least blameworthy for not adjusting his rhetoric and speaking out more explicitly (before the act, say, rather than a tepid response after) to reject violence.

[1] That word by itself makes it hard to imagine Trump isn't racist.
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He "expected to die", yet had concerns for protecting his hearing?
He was an actor in his one person play. Presentation means a lot. It makes sense he wanted to appear in his own costume. Prepared, living his fantasy.
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I sort of wish he would, at least try to. I mean, I'd like to know if there's a point at which these people will find their balls/ovaries and be loyal to the nation? I mean God damn, enough resigning, grow a pair of the appropriate sex organs and at least try to take back your party.
I'm pretty confident there isn't. The party's last shred of integrity died with McCain.
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Trump accused of deleting tweets in wake of El Paso shooting




Trump's staff is deleting his worst tweets





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(Not clear to me if the dates included are the dates of the original tweet or the dates they were deleted. More tech-savvy forum members may be able to clear that up.)
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El Paso, Texas 2019. The "Send Them Back" massacre. If Trump can grope some women and Tweet some more racially motivated messages and lies he may really be enjoying his weekend.
Maybe he'll Tweet "It's cheaper than sending them back"
I wish the media would pick up on that and use it
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That's because Der Trumpenführer is not a politician, and he has cleaned out all the politicians and replaced them with dumb-**** lobbyists and dickwit temps who don't know thing one about politics.

In any other country, what Der Trumpenführer is doing, and has been doing for the last three years would be political suicide. Not in America though.

I think he truly could shoot someone dead on 5th avenue, and the GOP would do nothing.
Especially if he did it above 110th Street.
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Originally Posted by Warmer1 View Post
El Paso, Texas 2019. The "Send Them Back" massacre. If Trump can grope some women and Tweet some more racially motivated messages and lies he may really be enjoying his weekend.
Maybe he'll Tweet "It's cheaper than sending them back"
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I wish the media would pick up on that and use it
Ditto! I suppose a direct quote of the mewling idiots, "The Send Her Back Massacre" would be too much to hope for, but referring to El Paso 03/08/19 as the "Send Them Back Massacre" would be honesty-in-advertising. Let Trump-Miller own the situation they created.
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If his staff are deleting his tweets (and possibly reposting them cleansed of negative words and replies), that suggests:

1) If Trump actually does run the @PresidentTwat account, he has no idea how to manage it. He can only post stuff "when he thinks of it". So the scatterbrain **** that appears in his feed is indicative of the complete lack of ability to focus on anything but "ratings", "deals", his next meal, and golf. And he needs someone else to clean up his droppings when he makes a mess in his cage.

2) If he does NOT run the account, it seems likely that staffers have been writing all his output for some time. This has been posited from a long time back. The length, complexity and grammatical correctness of his posts have been giving it away. Various analyses have indicated way north of 50% of Trumpty's tweets were not written by him. And perhaps the "covfefe" and "Whales" gaffes were thrown in by competent writers trying to deflect attention from other contentious issues. Bait and switch.

3) If point (2) is correct, the selective deletes and reposts indicate someone who is au fait with Twitter as a communications tool rather than as an extension of his dementia and shaving-mirror. And that ain't Trumpty! Trumpty can't drive an umbrella or a glass of water or stairs. His hair is thinning because there's no nourishment under there. Complex operations like a smartphone and Twitter media and content management are almost certainly the work of someone like SS-Gruppenfuhrer Miller. Confirmed from having watched Miller at work on TV slamming out almost the exact same words and ideas as these shooter manifestos.


So we should not be looking so much at Trump's twitter contribution as those feeding him the lines. People much smarter than Trump, and much, MUCH more dangerous.
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
If his staff are deleting his tweets (and possibly reposting them cleansed of negative words and replies), that suggests:

1) If Trump actually does run the @PresidentTwat account, he has no idea how to manage it. He can only post stuff "when he thinks of it". So the scatterbrain **** that appears in his feed is indicative of the complete lack of ability to focus on anything but "ratings", "deals", his next meal, and golf. And he needs someone else to clean up his droppings when he makes a mess in his cage.

2) If he does NOT run the account, it seems likely that staffers have been writing all his output for some time. This has been posited from a long time back. The length, complexity and grammatical correctness of his posts have been giving it away. Various analyses have indicated way north of 50% of Trumpty's tweets were not written by him. And perhaps the "covfefe" and "Whales" gaffes were thrown in by competent writers trying to deflect attention from other contentious issues. Bait and switch.

3) If point (2) is correct, the selective deletes and reposts indicate someone who is au fait with Twitter as a communications tool rather than as an extension of his dementia and shaving-mirror. And that ain't Trumpty! Trumpty can't drive an umbrella or a glass of water or stairs. His hair is thinning because there's no nourishment under there. Complex operations like a smartphone and Twitter media and content management are almost certainly the work of someone like SS-Gruppenfuhrer Miller. Confirmed from having watched Miller at work on TV slamming out almost the exact same words and ideas as these shooter manifestos.


So we should not be looking so much at Trump's twitter contribution as those feeding him the lines. People much smarter than Trump, and much, MUCH more dangerous.
I've been referring to it as the Trump-Miller administration. All the changes at Homeland Security, CBP, ICE,... cosmetic! The immigration czar is Miller. The only question is whether it's Trump-Miller or Miller-Trump.

The purging of the Twitter account is stupid. There are several websites that have literally posted every Tweet that's originated from Trump, whether original of from one of his minions.
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The purging of the Twitter account is stupid. There are several websites that have literally posted every Tweet that's originated from Trump, whether original of from one of his minions.
Understand: Trump is an ancient bastard and still doesn't understand how the "internet forever" concept works. And if he has a social media manager, it's not especially likely that he chose someone who is actually competent for that task, as Trump has proven time and time again that competence, experience, and/or relevant expertise for a particular position is not how he chooses people for positions. Remember, Trump chose Rudy Giuliani to be his "Cyber Security Czar", and that was after the incident where Giuliani didn't realize his failure to use spaces after periods in his tweets created accidental web-links, whose URLs people bought and filled anti-Trump messages and images, which Giuliani publicly described as people illegally hacking his tweets.
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Understand: Trump is an ancient bastard and still doesn't understand how the "internet forever" concept works. And if he has a social media manager, it's not especially likely that he chose someone who is actually competent for that task, as Trump has proven time and time again that competence, experience, and/or relevant expertise for a particular position is not how he chooses people for positions. Remember, Trump chose Rudy Giuliani to be his "Cyber Security Czar", and that was after the incident where Giuliani didn't realize his failure to use spaces after periods in his tweets created accidental web-links, whose URLs people bought and filled anti-Trump messages and images, which Giuliani publicly described as people illegally hacking his tweets.
That is of course true, but remember we're dealing with someone who seems to have no trouble claiming that news unfavorable to him is fake even if it's a recorded broadcast of himself, so it would be right in character for him to claim his tweets are unchanged and the originals fake.
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