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Old 29th March 2019, 09:44 AM   #1
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Arrow Deuterium water is hurting mitochondria function

Our friend Jack Kruse is back! This time, we discuss how deuterium in foods and water slows mitochondria ATP function, which decreases the spinning speed and magnetic fields generated by mitochondria.

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What is Deuterium?

Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. An isotope is another form of the same element that contains an equal number of protons but what differs is the number of neutrons in their nuclei. Isotopes therefore have differing masses but their chemical properties and how they behave in most chemical reactions are identical.

Hydrogen has two isotopes, deuterium and tritium. We will not discuss tritium but instead focus on deuterium. Deuterium has a neutron in its nuclei which makes it denser than hydrogen. Hydrogen does not have a neutron present in its structure.

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Old 29th March 2019, 09:56 AM   #2
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Thanks for the warning.

I'll restrict my Deuterium intake to 0.016% of all the hydrogen I consume.
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Old 29th March 2019, 10:01 AM   #3
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I wonder what hydrinos do for your mitochondria?
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What about tritium? Should I be concerned?
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Old 29th March 2019, 10:54 AM   #5
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Old 29th March 2019, 11:59 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by therival58 View Post
Our friend Jack Kruse is back! This time, we discuss how deuterium in foods and water slows mitochondria ATP function, which decreases the spinning speed and magnetic fields generated by mitochondria.
Does that mean if you drink water that contains deuterium, you won't be able to use the Force?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian/Legends

OOps, never mind... that's midichlorians, not mitochondria.
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Old 29th March 2019, 01:06 PM   #7
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Well, sure!

And did you know that an MRI scan will force ALLL of your electron orbits into the same plane?

That is bound to help use the Force to contact the Midlothians. Especially while wearing a tin foil hat in a parabolic cone shape, to focus the wwwwwwaves. Gee, until my recent MRI I hadn't noticed that "wwwwwaves" start with a wwwwwwwave form. Coincidence? I think not....
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Old 29th March 2019, 02:00 PM   #8
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I wonder what hydrinos do for your mitochondria?
Easy, they will provide infinite energy and eternal youth, provided you never actually use them.
Plus, there needs to be some way to introduce them to your body and that causes engineering problems at the moment.
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Old 29th March 2019, 02:14 PM   #9
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Easy, they will provide infinite energy and eternal youth, provided you never actually use them.
Plus, there needs to be some way to introduce them to your body and that causes engineering problems at the moment.
Just ten more years!
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... So hydrogen is very important to optimal human survival when explained at a quantum level.
Sorry, none of that statement had the slightest thing to do with QM, which makes this "conclusion" a red flag. In any event, standard biochemistry would apply.
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
Sorry, none of that statement had the slightest thing to do with QM, which makes this "conclusion" a red flag. In any event, standard biochemistry would apply.
Biochemistry is half the equation; only 'biophysics' gives the full picture!
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If only you understood Quantumbiochemophysics, you'd get it.
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Old 30th March 2019, 02:20 AM   #13
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To be fair, there is some evidence that maybe deuterium is actually harmful to life in high enough concentrations as it cannot quantum tunnel trough enzymes like hydrogen and would thus inhibit some enzyme functions.

Of course, the concentrations required are ridiculous and not in any way present in normal water.
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Originally Posted by therival58 View Post
Biochemistry is half the equation; only 'biophysics' gives the full picture!
To be fair, I've been looking into chemiosmosis, and the proton pump does seem to be at the scale that could experience quantum effects, though not seemingly the core mechanism. Fascinating overall, as the pump is the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics at work, holy cow. Also, to be fair, biophysics is indeed very much a thing. As for deuterium, I was busy chasing down what the effect of an extra neutron might be, but then... dinner was served.

So, I hereby issue you my official apology. To be fair to me, QM is so often a red flag that I went for it myself.
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Old 30th March 2019, 12:12 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Lukraak_Sisser View Post
To be fair, there is some evidence that maybe deuterium is actually harmful to life in high enough concentrations as it cannot quantum tunnel trough enzymes like hydrogen and would thus inhibit some enzyme functions.

Of course, the concentrations required are ridiculous and not in any way present in normal water.
Jack Kruse was on a podcast based out in Australia and he said most of the health problems being experienced in Australia is due to their high deuterium diet. Apparently the rainfall in Austalia has high deuterium content, so maybe deuterium is higher in different parts of the world?
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
To be fair, I've been looking into chemiosmosis, and the proton pump does seem to be at the scale that could experience quantum effects, though not seemingly the core mechanism. Fascinating overall, as the pump is the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics at work, holy cow. Also, to be fair, biophysics is indeed very much a thing. As for deuterium, I was busy chasing down what the effect of an extra neutron might be, but then... dinner was served.

So, I hereby issue you my official apology. To be fair to me, QM is so often a red flag that I went for it myself.

Then what explains the the spinning head of the mitochondria?
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Jack Kruse was on a podcast based out in Australia and he said most of the health problems being experienced in Australia is due to their high deuterium diet. Apparently the rainfall in Austalia has high deuterium content, so maybe deuterium is higher in different parts of the world?
Of course, deuterium being heavier it just naturally sinks to the bottom of the world.
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Jack Kruse was on a podcast based out in Australia and he said most of the health problems being experienced in Australia is due to their high deuterium diet. Apparently the rainfall in Austalia has high deuterium content, so maybe deuterium is higher in different parts of the world?
A simple search indicates that dangerous levels in humans probably require 25-50% if water to be replaced by heavy water.
If Australia's rain contained THAT much deuterium it would be the worlds premier nuclear power.
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Jack Kruse was on a podcast based out in Australia and he said most of the health problems being experienced in Australia is due to their high deuterium diet. Apparently the rainfall in Austalia has high deuterium content, so maybe deuterium is higher in different parts of the world?
Yes it is heavier, so it sinks to the bottom of the world.

OMG I was beat to the punch line!
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If only you understood Quantumbiochemophysics, you'd get it.
Sounds like a job for Neuroquantumbiochemophysics.
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Oh hell, I guess we shouldn't leave out Albert then.


Relativisticneuroquantumbiochemophysics


If you understood that you'd understand everything, you'd get even really stupid jokes.
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Oh hell, I guess we shouldn't leave out Albert then.


Relativisticneuroquantumbiochemophysics


If you understood that you'd understand everything, you'd get even really stupid jokes.

Only relevant if the joke is traveling a significant portion of the speed of humor or in close proximity to a large comedy well.
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Only relevant if the joke is traveling a significant portion of the speed of humor or in close proximity to a large comedy well.

Well that's on a whole 'nother level of complexity, I mean everyone who understands - and there aren't many - agree that the theory of Relativity is child's play in comparison to Steinein's theory of Relevancy. You shouldn't mention it, it just confuses people.
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Then what explains the the spinning head of the mitochondria?
The mitochondrial ATP synthase is actually a fascinating molecular rotor that turns as it pumps protons across the mitochondrial membrane and makes ATP from ADP. One of the only examples of a biological "wheel."

Unfortunately the rest of the OP is largely Jabberwocky.

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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
The mitochondrial ATP synthase is actually a fascinating molecular rotor that turns as it pumps protons across the mitochondrial membrane and makes ATP from ADP. One of the only examples of a biological "wheel."

Unfortunately the rest of the OP is largely Jabberwocky.
So Kruse almost got it right this time, but not quite
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Sounds like a job for Neuroquantumbiochemophysics.
Or what we mutant Aussies call bull-****.
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So Kruse almost got it right this time, but not quite
As I see it he does manage to state several scientific facts, although often they are not directly related to one another or are taken out of context. But then he puts them all together in a paper bag together with more crazy ideas, shakes it wildly, tears it open, and reports the result as a revelation.
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As I see it he does manage to state several scientific facts, although often they are not directly related to one another or are taken out of context. But then he puts them all together in a paper bag together with more crazy ideas, shakes it wildly, tears it open, and reports the result as a revelation.
Yes, but you need to sprinkle it with a bit of lunacy to REALLY make to work.
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kinetic isotope effect

Some enzyme-catalyzed reaction show a kinetic isotope effect. Most of the time deuterium produces a decrease in the rate, when compared with its lighter isotope. However, this is about the only sliver of truth I can find in the notion presented in the opening post.
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bacterial flagella

Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
The mitochondrial ATP synthase is actually a fascinating molecular rotor that turns as it pumps protons across the mitochondrial membrane and makes ATP from ADP. One of the only examples of a biological "wheel."

Unfortunately the rest of the OP is largely Jabberwocky.
The bacterial flagella also rotates in response to the protonmotive force, as you probably are aware. It can also change directions, which has never ceased to amaze me.
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