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Old 22nd March 2019, 06:46 AM   #281
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Originally Posted by Red Baron Farms View Post
Right. In layman's terms. Not in scientific terms. In science the results Mills got where completely meaningless. You should now see why scientists scoff at Mill's. That and of course the fact that Hydrinos don't exist.
Yeah, that was what I was trying to provide an analogy to. Using a device outside the range it's calibrated for gives you results that are meaningless.

ETA: Even if the device could be calibrated to the appropriate range (and I don't know if that's the case here)
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Old 22nd March 2019, 07:07 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by PeterWol62 View Post
The comments about invalid spectral analyser results might or might not be valid. If the manufacturer has published data showing that the device has zero sensitivity in a particular range, that is one thing. But if the manufacturer merely states that he has only calibrated or validated the device for a specific range, then that statement would not mean the same.


See, "zero sensitivity" isn't really the problem here. If the detector simply returned zero, you wouldn't have anything to even look at.

The problem is, the sensitivity is literally undefined. We have no idea what the relationship between the reading and reality is. It could be higher, it could be lower, and it could be either of those by almost any multiplication factor, 1% off, 10%, 10000% whatever. We don't know. And there's no reason to suppose that the error is constant over time or under all conditions. And without knowing any of that, there's no way we can translate one set of readings into another in hopes of producing more accurate results.

Now, sure, maybe just by coincidence Mills bought the one meter in which the response is neither higher nor lower, it's just bang-on exactly the same as what a proper measurement would be. But how unlikely is that?
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Old 22nd March 2019, 09:03 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by Red Baron Farms View Post
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[snip] That and of course the fact that Hydrinos don't exist.
Now, now you don't know they don't exist.... it's just that we know Mills hasn't any!

Maybe that's backwards. Maybe hydrinos are real and Mills doesn't exist.
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Old 26th March 2019, 03:35 AM   #284
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New patent

This is for a "MAGNETOHYDRODYNAMIC ELECTRIC POWER GENERATOR"
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Old 26th March 2019, 07:45 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
New patent

This is for a "MAGNETOHYDRODYNAMIC ELECTRIC POWER GENERATOR"
Oh gosh are we about to start the new scam cycle again?

Will we see notifications or impending production at x number of sites and contracts with obscure companies?

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
New patent

This is for a "MAGNETOHYDRODYNAMIC ELECTRIC POWER GENERATOR"
Again the same nonsense, using circular magnets on a faraday channel shows a fundamental lack of understanding of basic MHD dynamics. Highest field line concentration will tend to be at the center of the magnets radius. Which is, as pictured, at the midpoint of the channel where ions will simply tend to gyrate. The idea is to spread the field out linearly and uniformly over the length of the channel such that the curved paths of the ions, at various speeds, tend to meet the conductive stips. With a field distribution that is also and similarly curved, (not to mention potentially crossing field reversal boundaries, within the conductive length), just means reducing or eliminating ion impacts to the conductive plates or at worst having multiple countering impacts (at the boundary transitions).
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
New patent

This is for a "MAGNETOHYDRODYNAMIC ELECTRIC POWER GENERATOR"
Wow, the claims don't even start until almost page 300. So, this is what BLP does instead of actually produce a working product.

The title is misleading. "Magnetohydrodynamic" is only superficially mentioned in the claims, along with "boiler" and other methods for generating power. This patent is simply a complete description of the SunCell.

Of course, we all know that a "boiler" is beyond the technical capability of BLP, or anyone else on the planet, apparently

At least the patent explains the reactants. They claim that it is a reaction between water and hydrogen, caused by their electrical arc between their molten electrodes. So, they have hydrogen (and metals) for fuel, and water for some nice hydrolysis reaction (you can watch similar things on YouTube).

I guess with the patent out, we should expect a product any day now? Oops, I forgot -- no-one can make a boiler.

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Cue new Mills fan to amaze us with the marvel this will be.
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It's March 2019. Wasn't something supposed to have happened by now? Didn't Markie have a million internetz bet with someone?
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Old 26th March 2019, 05:29 PM   #290
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
It's March 2019. Wasn't something supposed to have happened by now? Didn't Markie have a million internetz bet with someone?
That was michaelsuede, and he welched on it.
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Old 27th March 2019, 07:05 AM   #291
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Originally Posted by MEequalsIxR View Post
Maybe that's backwards. Maybe hydrinos are real and Mills doesn't exist.
Offered as proof of existence, a set of gas chromatography measurements, should be easily found at the link:
(March 1st. )
The data confirming the existence of hydrino is available at this link of today:
I am not permitted to post links to this site. Will this work?
(https, remove between commas, ://) Brilliantlightpower , remove spaces, commas etc, put a dot here, com/news/

We can supply hydrino bound in compounds or as a gas. .........
(Private e-mail extract, from R.L.Mills)
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Originally Posted by PeterWol62 View Post
Offered as proof of existence, a set of gas chromatography measurements, should be easily found at the link:
(March 1st. )
The data confirming the existence of hydrino is available at this link of today:
I am not permitted to post links to this site. Will this work?
(https, remove between commas, ://) Brilliantlightpower , remove spaces, commas etc, put a dot here, com/news/

We can supply hydrino bound in compounds or as a gas. .........
(Private e-mail extract, from R.L.Mills)
It's an anti-bot measure; you need 15 posts before posting links.

https://Brilliantlightpower.com/news/

Is that the link you were trying to post? Normally just post it using, say, without the http and with commas instead of periods, someone will repost for you.
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Old 27th March 2019, 07:40 AM   #293
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Originally Posted by PeterWol62 View Post
Offered as proof of existence, a set of gas chromatography measurements, should be easily found at the link:
(March 1st. )
The data confirming the existence of hydrino is available at this link of today:
I am not permitted to post links to this site. Will this work?
(https, remove between commas, ://) Brilliantlightpower , remove spaces, commas etc, put a dot here, com/news/

We can supply hydrino bound in compounds or as a gas. .........
(Private e-mail extract, from R.L.Mills)

But Brilliant Light Power and Mills post lots of lies at that site. And even if you don't agree he's deliberately lying he is still quite definitely wrong all the time in his claims. He's claimed to have things he doesn't actually have multiple times. And, no, in case you are going to try to use the same excuse markie tries to use, I don't know mean that he misses deadlines. I mean he actually has claimed to actually have things in the here and now and then turns out not to actually have them.
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Old 27th March 2019, 11:02 AM   #294
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New video

https://youtu.be/FMl2aMfRYRw


Great new way of measuring the energy output, you put it in a water bath, then shine a torch and say "look at the (paraphrasing) striations that's the water changing density as it warms up."

If only there was some objective way to measure the temperature of something, perhaps a meter of some sort that could register changes in thermal energy? We could call such a device a meterthermo.

I know too far fetched, just a silly science fiction idea !
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Isn't it time for a new video where something buzzes, something gets hot, and no measurements are taken?

Originally Posted by Darat View Post

Thanks!
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We could call such a device a meterthermo.
And we could call two of them a couplethermo.
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Thanks!
I'm sorry Myriad but you are being very dishonest here as in the video they clearly show how they are measuring the energy output.

This is always the problem for Mills, folk like you who are ignorant of the True(tm)* science simply don't have the knowledge to understand the complex way in which they measure heat output. Sure it just looks like someone shining a torch into a water bath and saying you can see distortions in the water, but if you had an understanding of the True(tm)* science you'd know there is no better way of showing the amount of excess heat, this totally validates the generator.



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I'm sorry Myriad but you are being very dishonest here as in the video they clearly show how they are measuring the energy output.

This is always the problem for Mills, folk like you who are ignorant of the True(tm)* science simply don't have the knowledge to understand the complex way in which they measure heat output. Sure it just looks like someone shining a torch into a water bath and saying you can see distortions in the water, but if you had an understanding of the True(tm)* science you'd know there is no better way of showing the amount of excess heat, this totally validates the generator.



*Previously known as Scam(tm).
I'm sure they had a thermometer, but no, it does not validate the generator (though I suspect you were being sarcastic). This is pure theater. BLP has to be 'seen' as making progress, or the investors will revolt (I'm sure many of them know their money is wasted, but don't want to say so, on the hope that another fool will buy their shares).

A real system is always right around the corner, except they can't figure out how to turn heat into electricity.

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As an added safety feature the water tank is genius.

When the device burns up after about a minute the water going into the wrecked device puts out the fire and blows the main circuit breaker.

Thus saving BLP scientists from being killed instantly by hydrino meltdown.

Sheer genius. He should patent that.
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It is blowing hydrino bubbles!

Oh wait. Hydrinos are dark matter and cant form bubbles. Never mind
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I'm sorry Myriad but you are being very dishonest here as in the video they clearly show how they are measuring the energy output.

This is always the problem for Mills, folk like you who are ignorant of the True(tm)* science simply don't have the knowledge to understand the complex way in which they measure heat output. Sure it just looks like someone shining a torch into a water bath and saying you can see distortions in the water, but if you had an understanding of the True(tm)* science you'd know there is no better way of showing the amount of excess heat, this totally validates the generator.



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Somewhat like Rossi and the "Look it makes steam!"
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Somewhat like Rossi and the "Look it makes steam!"
IF only we could find some way to harness that steam for energy...we'll need another 10 years!
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It is blowing hydrino bubbles!

Oh wait. Hydrinos are dark matter and cant form bubbles. Never mind
Sure they can. They interact with all kinds of matter, except when they don't.

The bigger question is why they're not forming a hydrino compound with the water.
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Oh gosh are we about to start the new scam cycle again?

Will we see notifications or impending production at x number of sites and contracts with obscure companies?
Seems familiar in a Charlie Brown and football sort of way...
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I'm sorry Myriad but you are being very dishonest here as in the video they clearly show how they are measuring the energy output.

This is always the problem for Mills, folk like you who are ignorant of the True(tm)* science simply don't have the knowledge to understand the complex way in which they measure heat output. Sure it just looks like someone shining a torch into a water bath and saying you can see distortions in the water, but if you had an understanding of the True(tm)* science you'd know there is no better way of showing the amount of excess heat, this totally validates the generator.



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Well, he might be measuring the temperature, but I specifically said "no measurements taken." As in, recorded. He's failing to keep any durable record of his lumithermohydrohydrino readings over time. To do that scientifically, he'd have to be holding a smart phone next to his flashlight, to record video of the striations in the water density revealed by the beam.

Please read my posts more carefully before accusing me of being dishonest!
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Well, he might be measuring the temperature, but I specifically said "no measurements taken." As in, recorded. He's failing to keep any durable record of his lumithermohydrohydrino readings over time. To do that scientifically, he'd have to be holding a smart phone next to his flashlight, to record video of the striations in the water density revealed by the beam.

Please read my posts more carefully before accusing me of being dishonest!
I was joking....
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Originally Posted by Red Baron Farms View Post
It is blowing hydrino bubbles!

Oh wait. Hydrinos are dark matter and cant form bubbles. Never mind

Bubbles in a regular calorimetry experiment: "Something's leaking! Shut it the **** down!"

Bubbles in a BLP calorimetry experiment: "If you shine a flashlight near where the bubbles are coming out you can see how the water's changing density."
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I was joking....

Me too!
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Caliometry Validation Report

There's equations and numbers. I can only assume that this is purporting to be the data from the latest YouTube video.
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Caliometry Validation Report

There's equations and numbers. I can only assume that this is purporting to be the data from the latest YouTube video.
Quote:
"The excess energy is defined as the thermal energy released into the water bath in excess of the electrical energy input. "[1]
Once again the same flaw as was in previous attempt, failure to include all energy inputs and/or mundane well understood reactions like the burning of metals.

Just another smoke and mirrors report that has no real significance at all. And that's even assuming the test was what Mills claims it is.
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Caliometry Validation Report

There's equations and numbers. I can only assume that this is purporting to be the data from the latest YouTube video.
Nope.

First, the report deals with a 1 kg. reactor, and that assembly is much bigger than that.

Second, the report deals with millisecond current bursts, while the power seems to have been applied continuously in the video. They announce that they're turning the power off towards the end.

All of this assumes that "the latest YouTube video" is the one provided by Darat and linked to just prior to your answer.

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A record of the raw voltage and current vs. time data for the duration of the electrical power input burst was obtained from BLP as a single Excel worksheet file for each test.
The report is another pretend independent report. No observed data, just data that BLP claims it had observed.
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Wonder what's up with their quarterly report? Been almost 4 months since their last quarterly report and last year's first quarter report was out in February.
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Wonder what's up with their quarterly report? Been almost 4 months since their last quarterly report and last year's first quarter report was out in February.
Then their quarterly report is a month overdue... Or are they using a metric calendar?
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
Wonder what's up with their quarterly report? Been almost 4 months since their last quarterly report and last year's first quarter report was out in February.
Well it's hard to make up a quarterly report out of whole cloth when nothing reportable has happened.
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Well it's hard to make up a quarterly report out of whole cloth when nothing reportable has happened.
You'd say Mills has 30+ years of experience with that situation though, so surely he has learned how to do at least that by now?
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You'd say Mills has 30+ years of experience with that situation though, so surely he has learned how to do at least that by now?
But even Mills knows that one can only stretch proof by youtube so far. The indications are that he is tooling up for another fringe reset. That takes a lot of prep due to the historical trail of fail.
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Then their quarterly report is a month overdue... Or are they using a metric calendar?
A month overdue, in terms of his usually delivery dates that would count as needing time travel.
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But even Mills knows that one can only stretch proof by youtube so far. The indications are that he is tooling up for another fringe reset. That takes a lot of prep due to the historical trail of fail.
I do wonder whether this is the biggest obstacle Mills currently faces. Whereas in the past it's been possible to hide and obscure his past, we're now in the age where the internet is deeply embedded into almost everybody's lives. As the saying goes "the internet is forever". So when he announced he had finally got a market ready product in 2008 it was relatively easy to ignore that he had announced a market ready product in 1999. In 2019 it's harder to ignore than he announced a market ready product in 2008. It'll certainly be harder to ignore an announcement from 2016.
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