The Trump Presidency: Part 19 - Page 25

TragicMonkey · 13th January 2020, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Tweets

I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions.

The clause "with pre-existing conditions" refers back to "I": Trump is referring to his own pre-existing condition, which is of course malignant narcissism with a side order of senile dementia and purest Jersey-style madness.

alfaniner · 13th January 2020, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I wish Twitter had never been invented.

I for one like having direct access to what's going on in that head. And not believing what I'm reading most of the time.

Steve · 13th January 2020, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by BrooklynBaby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack...ssy_in_Baghdad

That link indicates the attack was by some Iraqi militia and a mob of Iraqi civilians. Is that who you meant by “they”.

Stacyhs · 13th January 2020, 06:47 PM

Trump claimed there was an imminent threat. Something that has already happened is not "imminent". If Trump and Pompeo had claimed the attack on the Baghdad embassy was the cause, that would be one thing. But "imminent" does not refer to something that happened days earlier. Some people have trouble with the POTUS blatantly and continually lying to the American people and some clearly do not.

Stacyhs · 13th January 2020, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I for one like having direct access to what's going on in that head. And not believing what I'm reading most of the time.

Trump would just be posting on his FB page instead if Twitter didn't exist.

Trebuchet · 13th January 2020, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Tweets

I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions. I am honored to have terminated the very unfair, costly and unpopular individual mandate for you!

SOCIALIST! Real Americans don't want any government regulations keeping big health corporations from screwing them over!

And then there's SOCIAList Security. I bet Trump supports that too!

Skeptic Ginger · 13th January 2020, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

He's retweeting Russian bots now.

Bots and troll activity will only pick up from now until the election.

And this is the guy the US is supposed to depend on to stop foreign election interference for 2020.

Skeptic Ginger · 13th January 2020, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It's now being reported that no embassies were notified of any imminent threat at the time of Soleimani's assassination. That would have been standard procedure if such a danger existed. I think most people have figured out by now that there was no "imminent" threat and that Trump's and Pompeo's reason for killing Soleimani was nothing but a big, fat lie.

And Trump is such a bad liar. “I can reveal I believe it probably would've been four embassies.”

Skeptic Ginger · 13th January 2020, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Tweets

I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions. I am honored to have terminated the very unfair, costly and unpopular individual mandate for you!

He's math challenged.

Regnad Kcin · 13th January 2020, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It's now being reported that no embassies were notified of any imminent threat at the time of Soleimani's assassination. That would have been standard procedure if such a danger existed. I think most people have figured out by now that there was no "imminent" threat and that Trump's and Pompeo's reason for killing Soleimani was nothing but a big, fat lie.

”By now?”

Planigale · 13th January 2020, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by BrooklynBaby

They attacked our embassy in Iraq less than two weeks ago. Y'all sure have a short memory.

I worry that all this about 'attack' makes it sound like they were armed. But from wikipedia.

Quote:

threw stones and water over the walls

So the embassy was threatened with getting wet! No bullets or bombs, not even a petrol bomb.

Stacyhs · 13th January 2020, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's math challenged.

He's more than just 'math' challenged. The only POTUS even close to being that 'challenged' is GWB. But the major difference between the two is GWB was dumb without being malicious.

Stacyhs · 13th January 2020, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

”By now?”

True. I suspected it from the start and said so.

Ladewig · 13th January 2020, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

He's more than just 'math' challenged. The only POTUS even close to being that 'challenged' is GWB. But the major difference between the two is GWB was dumb without being malicious.

GWB was capable of listening to advice and was capable of putting the country’s needs ahead of his own.

Is there a word for simultaneous misfeasance and malfeasance?

Aridas · 13th January 2020, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

ETA: Trump retweeted a photoshopped image of Chuck Schumer wearing a turban and Nancy Pelosi wearing hijab standing with an Iranian flag. The tweet included the caption "The corrupted Dems trying their best to come to the Ayatollah's rescue. #NancyPelosiFakeNews."

Just more of the "Democrats love terrorists and THAT is why they don't want to get into a war with them!" BS that the Republicans have pushed before. That's compared to the reality, of course, of Democrats being strongly against Soleimani's killing for a number of reasons that have nothing even remotely to do with loving terrorists or shedding any tears about the death of Soleimani.

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

I remember the Texas federal judge sat on his decision until after the midterms.

Indeed. And employed reasoning that was apparently widely decried as nonsensical.

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

He's retweeting Russian bots now.

I don't think that that's even remotely a new thing.

ETA: Ugh.

NYT: Russia Hacks Burisma Ahead of Impeachment Trial

Need much more be said?

The Great Zaganza · 13th January 2020, 11:10 PM

Luckily for the Trump Clan, none of them have the imagination to realize that their Daddy has painted a big target on their backs.

Stacyhs · 13th January 2020, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

GWB was capable of listening to advice and was capable of putting the country’s needs ahead of his own.

Is there a word for simultaneous misfeasance and malfeasance?

GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld.

I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself.

The Great Zaganza · 14th January 2020, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld.

I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself.

I'd rather have the country run by a cunning Cabal than by an uneducatable idiot.

Ladewig · 14th January 2020, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I'd put my next mortgage payment on the line on a bet that at some point in the last 3 years, someone has literally tried to physically wrench a phone out of the Presidents hand.

Thoughts that would go through my head before trying that

1) OK, he is definitely the kind of guy who would shoot someone who tried to pull a phone away from him, but I feel very certain that the USSS wouldn’t let him have a gun.

2) He’s going to yell for help and when the agents run in he’ll say “shoot that guy, he attacked me,” but if I don’t have a weapon, they won’t shoot me.

3) He’s going to tell the attorney general that I should be executed for attacking him, but it is not a capital crime.

4) it will mean the end of my career, but I may be setting a good example for others. If enough people followed my lead, the country would be better off. On the other hand, he’d probably insist that in the future, two armed agents stand by him during phone calls so I’d be throwing away my career for nothing.

5) no. The better plan is to have a switch that disconnects the phone. He won’t know what happened and we can blame it on the technology in the other person’s country. I’ll get the NSA working on that right away.

Ladewig · 14th January 2020, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld.

I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself.

I’m not entirely convinced that he is able to comprehend that he and the United States are two different entities.

The Great Zaganza · 14th January 2020, 05:45 AM

Trump bragging on Fox how profitably he is selling US force protection to South Korea and Saudi Arabia is disgusting.

sackett · 14th January 2020, 06:41 AM

Yo, BrooklynBabe: Nobody says y'all in Brooklyn.

Or in Tomsk, or wherever y'allski are sitting.

sackett · 14th January 2020, 06:46 AM

And only a few boos at that football game way down south.

In that mob, excuse me, crowd, it would take some sand to protest against God's 'Nointed Prisidint.

newyorkguy · 14th January 2020, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Trump Tweets - Mini Mike Bloomberg is spending a lot of money on False Advertising...

Quote:

Mini Mike Tweets back - Glad to see you're watching our ads, @realDonaldTrump. I know management isn't your strong suit, so perhaps you don't know...

See the difference in tone, in respect, the differing level of the exchange? But the worst part is, apparently Trump has been doing the opposite of what he is claiming. Proving he is totally untrustworthy. How do people support a president no one can trust? A man who is a serial liar. A man many people feel is basically a con artist, so many people that it seems reasonable there's at least some truth in it.

Man. that's some strong Kool-Aid!

The_Animus · 14th January 2020, 11:50 AM

Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong.

It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are

Belz... · 14th January 2020, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

I'm following up on a claim using skepticism tools.

New year's resolution?

ponderingturtle · 14th January 2020, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by The_Animus

Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong.

It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are

It's the new normal.

Belz... · 14th January 2020, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

He's retweeting Russian bots now.

He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later.

slyjoe · 14th January 2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by sackett

And only a few boos at that football game way down south.

In that mob, excuse me, crowd, it would take some sand to protest against God's 'Nointed Prisidint.

The whole display was disgusting - it looked like he didn't know what he was supposed to do. Melania had to direct him, and she had a couple hand pulls away from him.

He was irritated by NFL players kneeling during the national anthem. Which isn't written down.

What is written down is the US Flag Code, which says you should never display or transport the flag horizontally. I'm sure our idiot commander in chief will jump right on that unpatriotic gesture.

thaiboxerken · 14th January 2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by The_Animus

Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong.

It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are

There are other Trumpanzees that are spreading fake news that the Aussie fires are caused by many arsonists, I guess to prove that climate change has nothing to do with it.

Belz... · 14th January 2020, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's math challenged.

He's reality-challenged, which includes math.

ponderingturtle · 14th January 2020, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later.

Since when has terrrorists inspired by him made any real difference anyway? It won't change anything anymore than the MAGAbomber did.

Mikemcc · 14th January 2020, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later.

He didn't do so bad supporting them himself!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...t-organization

Armitage72 · 14th January 2020, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

There are other Trumpanzees that are spreading fake news that the Aussie fires are caused by many arsonists, I guess to prove that climate change has nothing to do with it.

There were similar claims in 2017 that illegal immigrants had been arrested for starting the fires in California. A Two-fer.

Segnosaur · 14th January 2020, 01:20 PM

Well at least now we know that the U.S. can easily cut military spending by a few billion more...

From: https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/210653...l-construction
...the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020. The funds transfer would bring the total amount devoted to border wall construction under Trump to $18.4 billion.

Oh, and keep in mind that when Trump first started campaigning, he claimed that the wall could be built for $4 billion, and "mexico will pay for it".

Seriously, how can anyone who supports the military also vote for Trump, given the fact he is harming soldiers in order to build his monument to bigotry?

Steve · 14th January 2020, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Well at least now we know that the U.S. can easily cut military spending by a few billion more...

From: https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/210653...l-construction
...the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020. The funds transfer would bring the total amount devoted to border wall construction under Trump to $18.4 billion.

Oh, and keep in mind that when Trump first started campaigning, he claimed that the wall could be built for $4 billion, and "mexico will pay for it".

Seriously, how can anyone who supports the military also vote for Trump, given the fact he is harming soldiers in order to build his monument to bigotry?

Many (most?) of his supporters agree with his bigotry.

Stacyhs · 14th January 2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by The_Animus

Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong.

It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are

He managed to graduate from high school? Must have been before the brain rot set it.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th January 2020, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by The_Animus

Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong.

It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are

It must be terribly frightening for someone who thinks the deep state has the AWESOME power to fake worldwide news about a whole continent on fire.

Segnosaur · 14th January 2020, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Quote:

Seriously, how can anyone who supports the military also vote for Trump, given the fact he is harming soldiers in order to build his monument to bigotry?

Many (most?) of his supporters agree with his bigotry.

Oh, I agree... the bigotry runs deep among the Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular.

But the republicans also claim to "love the military". That is some mighty big logical disconnect, to vote for a politician who is harming the military just because he's sharing your racist delusions.

Steve · 14th January 2020, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Oh, I agree... the bigotry runs deep among the Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular.

But the republicans also claim to "love the military". That is some mighty big logical disconnect, to vote for a politician who is harming the military just because he's sharing your racist delusions.

Everybody has their personal priorities. Supporting the military is good but keeping America white is even better.

13th January 2020, 06:07 PM	#961
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles September TLA & Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 53,068	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Tweets I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions. The clause "with pre-existing conditions" refers back to "I": Trump is referring to his own pre-existing condition, which is of course malignant narcissism with a side order of senile dementia and purest Jersey-style madness.
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13th January 2020, 06:33 PM	#962
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 21,273	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I wish Twitter had never been invented. I for one like having direct access to what's going on in that head. And not believing what I'm reading most of the time.
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13th January 2020, 06:42 PM	#963
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,403	Originally Posted by BrooklynBaby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack...ssy_in_Baghdad That link indicates the attack was by some Iraqi militia and a mob of Iraqi civilians. Is that who you meant by “they”.
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13th January 2020, 06:54 PM	#966
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwet Posts: 24,438	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Tweets I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions. I am honored to have terminated the very unfair, costly and unpopular individual mandate for you! SOCIALIST! Real Americans don't want any government regulations keeping big health corporations from screwing them over! And then there's SOCIAList Security. I bet Trump supports that too!
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13th January 2020, 07:06 PM	#967
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 77,944	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander He's retweeting Russian bots now. Bots and troll activity will only pick up from now until the election. And this is the guy the US is supposed to depend on to stop foreign election interference for 2020.
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13th January 2020, 06:47 PM	#964
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 10,250	Trump claimed there was an imminent threat. Something that has already happened is not "imminent". If Trump and Pompeo had claimed the attack on the Baghdad embassy was the cause, that would be one thing. But "imminent" does not refer to something that happened days earlier. Some people have trouble with the POTUS blatantly and continually lying to the American people and some clearly do not.

13th January 2020, 06:48 PM	#965
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 10,250	Originally Posted by alfaniner I for one like having direct access to what's going on in that head. And not believing what I'm reading most of the time. Trump would just be posting on his FB page instead if Twitter didn't exist.

13th January 2020, 07:11 PM	#968
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 77,944	Originally Posted by Stacyhs It's now being reported that no embassies were notified of any imminent threat at the time of Soleimani's assassination. That would have been standard procedure if such a danger existed. I think most people have figured out by now that there was no "imminent" threat and that Trump's and Pompeo's reason for killing Soleimani was nothing but a big, fat lie. And Trump is such a bad liar. “I can reveal I believe it probably would've been four embassies.”
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13th January 2020, 07:13 PM	#969
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 77,944	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Tweets I stand stronger than anyone in protecting your Healthcare with Pre-Existing Conditions. I am honored to have terminated the very unfair, costly and unpopular individual mandate for you! He's math challenged.
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13th January 2020, 07:27 PM	#970
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,561	Originally Posted by Stacyhs It's now being reported that no embassies were notified of any imminent threat at the time of Soleimani's assassination. That would have been standard procedure if such a danger existed. I think most people have figured out by now that there was no "imminent" threat and that Trump's and Pompeo's reason for killing Soleimani was nothing but a big, fat lie. ”By now?”
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13th January 2020, 07:31 PM	#971
Planigale Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 3,460	Originally Posted by BrooklynBaby They attacked our embassy in Iraq less than two weeks ago. Y'all sure have a short memory. I worry that all this about 'attack' makes it sound like they were armed. But from wikipedia. Quote: threw stones and water over the walls So the embassy was threatened with getting wet! No bullets or bombs, not even a petrol bomb.
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13th January 2020, 07:32 PM	#972
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 10,250	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger He's math challenged. He's more than just 'math' challenged. The only POTUS even close to being that 'challenged' is GWB. But the major difference between the two is GWB was dumb without being malicious.

13th January 2020, 07:34 PM	#973
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 10,250	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin ”By now?” True. I suspected it from the start and said so.

13th January 2020, 09:18 PM	#974
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26,900	Originally Posted by Stacyhs He's more than just 'math' challenged. The only POTUS even close to being that 'challenged' is GWB. But the major difference between the two is GWB was dumb without being malicious. GWB was capable of listening to advice and was capable of putting the country’s needs ahead of his own. Is there a word for simultaneous misfeasance and malfeasance?
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13th January 2020, 10:22 PM	#975
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,734	Originally Posted by Stacyhs ETA: Trump retweeted a photoshopped image of Chuck Schumer wearing a turban and Nancy Pelosi wearing hijab standing with an Iranian flag. The tweet included the caption "The corrupted Dems trying their best to come to the Ayatollah's rescue. #NancyPelosiFakeNews." Just more of the "Democrats love terrorists and THAT is why they don't want to get into a war with them!" BS that the Republicans have pushed before. That's compared to the reality, of course, of Democrats being strongly against Soleimani's killing for a number of reasons that have nothing even remotely to do with loving terrorists or shedding any tears about the death of Soleimani. Originally Posted by BobTheCoward I remember the Texas federal judge sat on his decision until after the midterms. Indeed. And employed reasoning that was apparently widely decried as nonsensical. Originally Posted by Norman Alexander He's retweeting Russian bots now. I don't think that that's even remotely a new thing. ETA: Ugh. NYT: Russia Hacks Burisma Ahead of Impeachment Trial Need much more be said?
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13th January 2020, 11:10 PM	#976
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 10,683	Luckily for the Trump Clan, none of them have the imagination to realize that their Daddy has painted a big target on their backs.
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13th January 2020, 11:42 PM	#977
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 10,250	Originally Posted by Ladewig GWB was capable of listening to advice and was capable of putting the country’s needs ahead of his own. Is there a word for simultaneous misfeasance and malfeasance? GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld. I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself.

14th January 2020, 12:24 AM	#978
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 10,683	Originally Posted by Stacyhs GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld. I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself. I'd rather have the country run by a cunning Cabal than by an uneducatable idiot.
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14th January 2020, 02:26 AM	#979
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26,900	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I'd put my next mortgage payment on the line on a bet that at some point in the last 3 years, someone has literally tried to physically wrench a phone out of the Presidents hand. Thoughts that would go through my head before trying that 1) OK, he is definitely the kind of guy who would shoot someone who tried to pull a phone away from him, but I feel very certain that the USSS wouldn’t let him have a gun. 2) He’s going to yell for help and when the agents run in he’ll say “shoot that guy, he attacked me,” but if I don’t have a weapon, they won’t shoot me. 3) He’s going to tell the attorney general that I should be executed for attacking him, but it is not a capital crime. 4) it will mean the end of my career, but I may be setting a good example for others. If enough people followed my lead, the country would be better off. On the other hand, he’d probably insist that in the future, two armed agents stand by him during phone calls so I’d be throwing away my career for nothing. 5) no. The better plan is to have a switch that disconnects the phone. He won’t know what happened and we can blame it on the technology in the other person’s country. I’ll get the NSA working on that right away.
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14th January 2020, 02:29 AM	#980
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26,900	Originally Posted by Stacyhs GWB listened to advice...but that advice was often from those he should not have listened to: Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld. I agree that GWB believed he was putting the US first. Trump puts no one and nothing before himself. I’m not entirely convinced that he is able to comprehend that he and the United States are two different entities.
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14th January 2020, 05:45 AM	#981
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 10,683	Trump bragging on Fox how profitably he is selling US force protection to South Korea and Saudi Arabia is disgusting.
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14th January 2020, 06:41 AM	#982
sackett Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,806	Yo, BrooklynBabe: Nobody says y'all in Brooklyn. Or in Tomsk, or wherever y'allski are sitting.
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14th January 2020, 06:46 AM	#983
sackett Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,806	And only a few boos at that football game way down south. In that mob, excuse me, crowd, it would take some sand to protest against God's 'Nointed Prisidint.
	__________________ Fill the seats of justice with good men; not so absolute in goodness as to forget what human frailty is. -- Thomas Jefferson What region of the earth is not filled with our calamities? -- Virgil

14th January 2020, 10:55 AM	#984
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 10,331	Quote: Trump Tweets - Mini Mike Bloomberg is spending a lot of money on False Advertising... Quote: Mini Mike Tweets back - Glad to see you're watching our ads, @realDonaldTrump. I know management isn't your strong suit, so perhaps you don't know... See the difference in tone, in respect, the differing level of the exchange? But the worst part is, apparently Trump has been doing the opposite of what he is claiming. Proving he is totally untrustworthy. How do people support a president no one can trust? A man who is a serial liar. A man many people feel is basically a con artist, so many people that it seems reasonable there's at least some truth in it. Man. that's some strong Kool-Aid!

14th January 2020, 11:50 AM	#985
The_Animus Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,104	Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong. It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are
The_Animus Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,104	__________________ Don't feed the trolls. Just ignore them.

14th January 2020, 11:53 AM	#986
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 87,600	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward I'm following up on a claim using skepticism tools. New year's resolution?
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14th January 2020, 11:55 AM	#987
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 48,438	Originally Posted by The_Animus Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong. It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are It's the new normal.
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14th January 2020, 11:57 AM	#988
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 87,600	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander He's retweeting Russian bots now. He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later.
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14th January 2020, 11:58 AM	#989
slyjoe Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins Posts: 1,747	Originally Posted by sackett And only a few boos at that football game way down south. In that mob, excuse me, crowd, it would take some sand to protest against God's 'Nointed Prisidint. The whole display was disgusting - it looked like he didn't know what he was supposed to do. Melania had to direct him, and she had a couple hand pulls away from him. He was irritated by NFL players kneeling during the national anthem. Which isn't written down. What is written down is the US Flag Code, which says you should never display or transport the flag horizontally. I'm sure our idiot commander in chief will jump right on that unpatriotic gesture.
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14th January 2020, 11:58 AM	#990
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30,400	Originally Posted by The_Animus Yesterday a Trump cultist I graduated from high school with was claiming the Australian wildfires were fake news. He also claims Sandy hook was a false flag using crisis actors and that Trump has never done anything wrong. It's both amazing and terrifying how crazy his supporters are There are other Trumpanzees that are spreading fake news that the Aussie fires are caused by many arsonists, I guess to prove that climate change has nothing to do with it.
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14th January 2020, 11:59 AM	#991
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 87,600	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger He's math challenged. He's reality-challenged, which includes math.
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14th January 2020, 11:59 AM	#992
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 48,438	Originally Posted by Belz... He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later. Since when has terrrorists inspired by him made any real difference anyway? It won't change anything anymore than the MAGAbomber did.
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14th January 2020, 12:07 PM	#993
Mikemcc Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,800	Originally Posted by Belz... He's playing a very dangerous game of saying that Democrats support terrorists. It's likely to blow up in our faces sonner than later. He didn't do so bad supporting them himself! https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...t-organization

14th January 2020, 12:15 PM	#994
Armitage72 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,692	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken There are other Trumpanzees that are spreading fake news that the Aussie fires are caused by many arsonists, I guess to prove that climate change has nothing to do with it. There were similar claims in 2017 that illegal immigrants had been arrested for starting the fires in California. A Two-fer.
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14th January 2020, 01:20 PM	#995
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,361	Well at least now we know that the U.S. can easily cut military spending by a few billion more... From: https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/210653...l-construction ...the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020. The funds transfer would bring the total amount devoted to border wall construction under Trump to $18.4 billion. Oh, and keep in mind that when Trump first started campaigning, he claimed that the wall could be built for $4 billion, and "mexico will pay for it". Seriously, how can anyone who supports the military also vote for Trump, given the fact he is harming soldiers in order to build his monument to bigotry?
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