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9/11: How they Faked the Videos
Full article here.
How they spoofed the “live” shots of flight 175:
How they spoofed the “amateur” videos (not live):
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A) this should be in the 911 sub forum.
B) How did they spoof the vision of the hundreds of people that saw the attacks with their own two biological eyes? |
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Hilarious.
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...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015 |
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Special folks have internet access too.
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Then what made the plane shaped hole?
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You know what would be a lot easier, cheaper, and more efficient?
Crashing two planes into the buildings. |
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Ben is sick ladies and gentlemen, thats right, Ben is sick. |
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I want to thank the 126 Republican Congress members for providing a convenient and well organized list for the mid-terms. - Fred Wellman (Senior VA Advisor to The Lincoln Project) ![]() |
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Hundreds? This is lower Manhatten during morning commute. We're talking 10s of thousands or more pairs of eyeballs.
Clearly, each and every person that claims to have seen anything is a crisis actor. Question for the op: Do we know the location, size and power of the speakers used to broadcast the sound of passenger jets that would have flown at that low altitude? |
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I want to thank the 126 Republican Congress members for providing a convenient and well organized list for the mid-terms. - Fred Wellman (Senior VA Advisor to The Lincoln Project) ![]() |
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I've never been to NYC, how do I know it's a real place?
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I have been there, and I have photos, but all that proves is that I'm actually a creation of the CIA and someone is really good with Photoshop.... or internet picture searches...
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The non-theoretical character of metaphysics would not be in itself a defect; all arts have this non-theoretical character without thereby losing their high value for personal as well as for social life. The danger lies in the deceptive character of metaphysics; it gives the illusion of knowledge without actually giving any knowledge. This is the reason why we reject it. - Rudolf Carnap "Philosophy and Logical Syntax" |
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I think I'll start an 8Chan account and launch a CT that both the Afghan and Iraq wars are fake with Afghanistan being filmed in New Mexico and Iraq out at Fort Irwin.
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If you haven't already, click the OP signature links. Most recent most - Steve's open letter to Caitlyn Johnstone. I know that many of you come to
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They are all CGI bots. No one saw anything in NYC.
The towers, too, were CGIed. As was the blue sky - everybody knows there was Hurrican Erin there that day. 9/11 did not actually happen at all. We were all brainwashed into thinking there was a World Trade Center in lower Manhattan. |
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Ben is sick ladies and gentlemen, thats right, Ben is sick. |
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Not again, please.
Spoiler: Missiles fired from the Woolworth building. http://www.internationalskeptics.com...47#post9776847 |
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This isn't an explanation, it's a plot, and a pretty damned silly one too. As has been noted, why do it like this to achieve an effect that can be easily realized by actually doing what you're taking the hard (more like impossible) way to fake? It's not just a solution in search of a problem, it's a solution that actively creates problems that wouldn't exist without it- all these supposed "how it was dones" are things that needed to be done only because that's how it was supposedly done. Like most CTs (really more so than most), it's an exercise in idiotic recursion, fictions for the fiction's sake.
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(Zoidberg, Hermes, and Bender walk up to Zoidberg's new home, which is should be noted is underwater and find that it has burned to the ground.)
Zoidberg: "My house! It burned down! How did this happen?." Hermes: (Stares at the rubble in abject confusion) "That is... a very good question." Bender: "Oh there's where I left my cigar!" (Picks the cigar off the burned rubble and puffs it, even blowing some smoke rings) Hermes: "THAT JUST RAISES FURTHER QUESTIONS!" |
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I always dearly love crazy that thinks it's not crazy because it found a worse or different kind of crazy.
Years back we had a no-planer and a controlled demolitionist get into and it was beautiful. I want to print their nonsense back and forth where both of them were claiming the intellectual and moral high ground and frame it on my wall as a monument to just how stupid CTers are. |
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Yahtzee: "You're doing that thing again where when asked a question you just discuss the philosophy of the question instead of answering the bloody question." Gabriel: "Well yeah, you see..." Yahtzee: "No. When you are asked a Yes or No question the first word out of your mouth needs to be Yes or No. Only after that have you earned the right to elaborate." |
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I have been to New York. It certainly appeared to be a real place. OTOH, I did a lot of my "traveling" there on what appeared to be an underground rail system. While on these alleged trains, I spent a lot of time in the dark, and it was pretty difficult to tell what direction I was traveling, how fast I was going, etc., and the stations all looked pretty much the same until I went up the stairs to the outside world, so I can't completely rule out the possibility that it was all an extremely complex hoax, with tens of thousand of stage hands rearranging the sets while I was supposedly traveling on the "underground trains".
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What I find interesting is what a horrible, frustrating life conspiracy theorists of this sort must lead. It's like some fiction of a person lost in an alien world, or a time traveler whose every move is condemned as magic, or one of those science fiction stories in which nobody recognizes the aliens until it's too late. Imagine walking down the streets of Manhattan, and realizing that nearly everyone you meet is either a conspirator or a fool.
Surely you would have to be careful, as saying the wrong thing to the wrong person could get you disappeared or reprogrammed, or at least silenced, or something. The internet is, of course, safe, because the fiendish evil geniuses who engineered the world conspiracy obviously can't figure out who you are. I wonder if there's some secret gesture, like the old Christian half-fish, by which the lonely wanderer can know when it's safe to speak the truth. If half this stuff were true, it would be clear that the world is an absolute tangle of intransigent corruption and incorrigible confusion that makes the vision of the ancient gnostics pale by comparison. What nobility and self sacrifice it shows to take up the banner of truth against such odds. Me, I'd probably just hide in the basement, or become a ruthless hedonist, so one must applaud the bravery of those who march into the shadowy valley. |
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Nah, it's actually quite common. Common sense is the most fairly distributed thing in the world, everybody has enough. You are always the person you trust most. It's just failure to learn and use skeptical approach.
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Right, in the middle of a collapsing building(s) someone is going to go out and plant evidence. Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy, but in the real world how is this to be accomplished without anyone noticing? Or why hasn't a whistle blower and come forth proclaiming responsibility for planting anything?
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