9/11: How they Faked the Videos - Page 2

Captain_Swoop · 31st December 2019, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy

Looking at 'body of work' I would day sarcasm.

turingtest · 31st December 2019, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Right, in the middle of a collapsing building(s) someone is going to go out and plant evidence. Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy, but in the real world how is this to be accomplished without anyone noticing? Or why hasn't a whistle blower and come forth proclaiming responsibility for planting anything?
Oh wait I know the government death squads. LOL

Pretty sure, given his first post in this thread, that Deadie was being facetious. It does illustrate something about CT-driven thought, though, doesn't it? when you can't tell the difference between someone saying something silly facetiously and someone else saying something just as silly seriously...

bknight · 31st December 2019, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Looking at 'body of work' I would day sarcasm.

Originally Posted by turingtest

Pretty sure, given his first post in this thread, that Deadie was being facetious. It does illustrate something about CT-driven thought, though, doesn't it? when you can't tell the difference between someone saying something silly facetiously and someone else saying something just as silly seriously...

I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment?

JoeMorgue · 31st December 2019, 01:16 PM

So, he says knowing he will never get an answer from the OP, is there... a reason they choose this incredibly convoluted method?

Surely the evil NWO Illuminati Lizard People Government could crash a flew planes.

What did this method accomplish for them that just... committing the attacks wouldn't?

Captain_Swoop · 31st December 2019, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment?

Comment from the OP

Deadie · 31st December 2019, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment?

Hence the power of poe's law. I'm not at all the only person in this thread having a go for the sake of fun fyi. "Plane shaped missiles" didn't tip you off?

This used to be more enjoyable when the op's engaged in the discussion.

Captain_Swoop · 31st December 2019, 01:28 PM

I think your lack of posting history told against you

JoeMorgue · 31st December 2019, 01:30 PM

We shouldn't have to check people's character sheets to know if we should respond to inanity one way or the other.

Having to keep track of who's an idiot, who's a troll, and who's an amazing performance art subtle deconstruction of a troll is and the list of unofficial rules as to how we have to respond to each getting tiresome.

abaddon · 31st December 2019, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Deadie

Hundreds? This is lower Manhatten during morning commute. We're talking 10s of thousands or more pairs of eyeballs.

Clearly, each and every person that claims to have seen anything is a crisis actor.

Question for the op: Do we know the location, size and power of the speakers used to broadcast the sound of passenger jets that would have flown at that low altitude?

Oh, right, you are new.

The OP believe that missiles were used to create all of those "apparent" plane shaped holes by means of an unfeasible amount of precision accuracy. Or occasionally, it was nukes planted in the buildings when they were built, or make up whatever you want. He does.

Deadie · 31st December 2019, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

We shouldn't have to check people's character sheets to know if we should respond to inanity one way or the other.

Having to keep track of who's an idiot, who's a troll, and who's an amazing performance art subtle deconstruction of a troll is getting tiresome.

Ok, this is a legitimate and fair point and I apologize to anyone confused about my bad attempt at humor.

bknight · 31st December 2019, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Deadie

Ok, this is a legitimate and fair point and I apologize to anyone confused about my bad attempt at humor.

Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely.

And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place.

carlitos · 31st December 2019, 01:55 PM

This subforum isn't only to discuss the serious event, it's to discuss the often-amusing misadventures of conspiracy theorists.

bknight · 31st December 2019, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

This subforum isn't only to discuss the serious event, it's to discuss the often-amusing misadventures of conspiracy theorists.

You lighten up

abaddon · 31st December 2019, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely.

The event itself? Of course not. Roughly 3,000 people died because of 19 religious zealots. That is and never will be a matter of mockery.

Yankee's bizarre crap is an entirely different matter. I have no issue mocking that astonishing pile of crap CT delusion at all.

Originally Posted by bknight

And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place.

Credit where it is due. It would never have happened if some random people did not post utter crankery about 911.

PhantomWolf · 31st December 2019, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

So all the airplane pieces that are in the museum are CGIed??

The CTs really need to look at evidence not fantasy beliefs.

But how can you prove that these pieces really came from a plane, does this look like a plane to you?

bknight · 31st December 2019, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

But how can you prove that these pieces really came from a plane, does this look like a plane to you?

Not a plane but a piece of an airplane fuselage.

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Dr.Sid · 31st December 2019, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Not a plane but a piece of an airplane fuselage.

It's green. You know what else is green ? Military stuff. It's clearly a misille.

PhantomWolf · 31st December 2019, 04:21 PM

For anyone wondering about the providence of the piece, it was on display in the NYPD Museum's 9/11 exhibit in 2008.

Here's the display it was in. And yes they are my own photos from my trip there.

Axxman300 · 31st December 2019, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

I have been to New York. It certainly appeared to be a real place. OTOH, I did a lot of my "traveling" there on what appeared to be an underground rail system. While on these alleged trains, I spent a lot of time in the dark, and it was pretty difficult to tell what direction I was traveling, how fast I was going, etc., and the stations all looked pretty much the same until I went up the stairs to the outside world, so I can't completely rule out the possibility that it was all an extremely complex hoax, with tens of thousand of stage hands rearranging the sets while I was supposedly traveling on the "underground trains".

Manhattan is obviously a Reptilian hologram. It's not a real island, it's a massive alien spaceship. All of those bridges and tunnels are just gateways into a giant matrix where everyone is sedated and plugged into a Reptilian computer and have no knowledge that they are being probed and are having their DNA extracted in order to recreate humanity in a distant galaxy.

Seriously, why do you think the Indians sold it so damned cheap?

PhantomWolf · 31st December 2019, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Axxman300

Manhattan is obviously a Reptilian hologram. It's not a real island, it's a massive alien spaceship. All of those bridges and tunnels are just gateways into a giant matrix where everyone is sedated and plugged into a Reptilian computer and have no knowledge that they are being probed and are having their DNA extracted in order to recreate humanity in a distant galaxy.

Seriously, why do you think the Indians sold it so damned cheap?

Probably cause they weren't actually Indians, given they weren't in India.

Axxman300 · 31st December 2019, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Probably cause they weren't actually Indians, given they weren't in India.

Or were they? Just asking questions.

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

And what do you think of all the forensic evidence from the planes?

How does that change the evidence in the impact holes? (It doesn't). It has been five years but the evidence that makes the plane parts moot hasn't changed a bit. Neither has this forum's steadfast refusal to address it.

Axxman300 · 31st December 2019, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely.

And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place.

I agree but in the case of Yankee the most severe reaction which gets the most mileage is ridicule. I'm sure you've read his other threads, when anyone attempts to debate him on the liquid merits of his claims he blows smoke, moves the goal posts, and accuses us of either being CIA shills or mindless fools.

Making jokes at his expense on the other hand gets to him.

We're not talking about remote controlled aircraft and plastic explosives with this guy, we're talking hardcore No Planes/No Twin Towers/No dead bodies. How can you debate these concepts with a straight face?

I don't think 9-11 was funny but Yankee's OP along with his other intellectually inbred posts are a laugh riot. Okay, maybe I should feel sorry for him because he's suffering from some neurological impairment or possibly sun-downing but without evidence for those situations I have to take him at face value. I spend almost half my life as a CTist myself, I have been in meetings where much crazier theories have been advanced by people who are otherwise sane who work in good professions.

curious cat · 31st December 2019, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

It's green. You know what else is green ? Military stuff. It's clearly a misille.

See? Gotcha again!

Axxman300 · 31st December 2019, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

How does that change the evidence in the impact holes? (It doesn't). It has been five years but the evidence that makes the plane parts moot hasn't changed a bit. Neither has this forum's steadfast refusal to address it.

See what I mean?

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Axxman300

I agree but in the case of Yankee the most severe reaction which gets the most mileage is ridicule. I'm sure you've read his other threads, when anyone attempts to debate him on the liquid merits of his claims he blows smoke, moves the goal posts, and accuses us of either being CIA shills or mindless fools.

Making jokes at his expense on the other hand gets to him.

We're not talking about remote controlled aircraft and plastic explosives with this guy, we're talking hardcore No Planes/No Twin Towers/No dead bodies. How can you debate these concepts with a straight face?

I don't think 9-11 was funny but Yankee's OP along with his other intellectually inbred posts are a laugh riot. Okay, maybe I should feel sorry for him because he's suffering from some neurological impairment or possibly sun-downing but without evidence for those situations I have to take him at face value. I spend almost half my life as a CTist myself, I have been in meetings where much crazier theories have been advanced by people who are otherwise sane who work in good professions.

I like jokes. That's why I'm here.

DuvalHMFIC · 31st December 2019, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

But how can you prove that these pieces really came from a plane, does this look like a plane to you?

I really, really want to photoshop "Yes, this is part of a plane" onto that picture

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 04:59 PM

Why, look at that. Still moderated. The truth hurts.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571

bknight · 31st December 2019, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

How does that change the evidence in the impact holes? (It doesn't). It has been five years but the evidence that makes the plane parts moot hasn't changed a bit. Neither has this forum's steadfast refusal to address it.

For the benefit of everyone list the evidence that makes the plane parts moot.
Don't post links your page(s), just list the evidence.

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

For anyone wondering about the providence of the piece, it was on display in the NYPD Museum's 9/11 exhibit in 2008.

Here's the display it was in. And yes they are my own photos from my trip there.

Oh yes. Concrete that flowed like lava. Snicker.

I tried to discuss that canard here too, but alas, the conversation had so many skeptics foaming at the mouth it too had to be moderated. And remains so. The truth hurts.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=252571

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

For the benefit of everyone list the evidence that makes the plane parts moot.
Don't post links your page(s), just list the evidence.

Danced about ad nasea here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571

bknight · 31st December 2019, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uplo...ectories-1.jpg

Danced about ad nasea here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571

And what is the point you are trying to make? No links, just words here.

curious cat · 31st December 2019, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Right, in the middle of a collapsing building(s) someone is going to go out and plant evidence. Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy, but in the real world how is this to be accomplished without anyone noticing? Or why hasn't a whistle blower and come forth proclaiming responsibility for planting anything?
Oh wait I know the government death squads. LOL

It is sad how you are underestimating the perpetrators of this crime, silly...
Don't you know THEY have superhuman powers, unlimited resources at their disposal, use alien technology and can manipulate the brains of masses? How can you be so blind? There are proofs of it everywhere - just look at the chemtrails! I wouldn't be surprised you actually believe the Earth is round too!

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

And what is the point you are trying to make? No links, just words here.

At the far left of both impact holes, by itself the lightly damaged cladding is proof a 767's wing tip wasn't responsible.

A few feet away from the lightly damage aluminum sheeting are heavily damaged steel columns that were impacted from the side, in a completely different direction than the jet was traveling.

On the ninth column from the left is an inward blasting hole, nowhere near where the alleged jet engine impacted.

Something, or some things, struck from the side. Therefore what we were shown on television cannot have been responsible. There are many more details discussed in the moderated post, and of course on my site.

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by curious cat

It is sad how you are underestimating the perpetrators of this crime, silly...
Don't you know THEY have superhuman powers, unlimited resources at their disposal

Yes. They can make very smart people believe impossible things.

bknight · 31st December 2019, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

At the far left of both impact holes, by itself the lightly damaged cladding is proof a 767's wing tip wasn't responsible.

A few feet away from the lightly damage aluminum sheeting are heavily damaged steel columns that they were impacted from the side, in a completely different direction than the jet was traveling.

You are of course a forensic damage expert that can differentiate how/why damage occurs as the plane impacts the, please list your qualifications and training.

Quote:

On the ninth column from the left is an inward blasting hole, nowhere near where the alleged jet engine impacted.

Please show a graphic to prove your allegation

Quote:

Something, or some things, struck from the side. Therefore what we were shown on television cannot have been responsible. There are many more details discussed in the moderated post, and of course on my site.

You know there was live TV for all to see a plane approaching the south tower other views show the airplane slamming into the tower. Where do you claim that a that it could not be responsible.

theprestige · 31st December 2019, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

Yes. They can make very smart people believe impossible things.

Wouldn't it be easier to just crash planes into things, if that's the impression they were trying to create?

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

You are of course a forensic damage expert that can differentiate how/why damage occurs as the plane impacts the, please list your qualifications and training.
Please show a graphic to prove your allegation

You know there was live TV for all to see a plane approaching the south tower other views show the airplane slamming into the tower. Where do you claim that a that it could not be responsible.

I am capable of doing my own thinking. If that makes me an expert, then so be it. If you require an expert to do your thinking for you, then you'll have to take my word for it.

All the views of the "live" impact were capturing the north face of the North Tower. None of them caught the "crash." Those that do show the crash were not broadcast live.

yankee451 · 31st December 2019, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Wouldn't it be easier to just crash planes into things, if that's the impression they were trying to create?

If planes could do such things, there would be no need for missiles. Furthermore, if a plane did such a thing, the damage evidence would be consistent with it.

31st December 2019, 12:55 PM	#42
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 4,552	Originally Posted by bknight Right, in the middle of a collapsing building(s) someone is going to go out and plant evidence. Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy, but in the real world how is this to be accomplished without anyone noticing? Or why hasn't a whistle blower and come forth proclaiming responsibility for planting anything? Oh wait I know the government death squads. LOL Pretty sure, given his first post in this thread, that Deadie was being facetious. It does illustrate something about CT-driven thought, though, doesn't it? when you can't tell the difference between someone saying something silly facetiously and someone else saying something just as silly seriously...
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31st December 2019, 01:16 PM	#44
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 29,958	So, he says knowing he will never get an answer from the OP, is there... a reason they choose this incredibly convoluted method? Surely the evil NWO Illuminati Lizard People Government could crash a flew planes. What did this method accomplish for them that just... committing the attacks wouldn't?
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31st December 2019, 01:26 PM	#46
Deadie Scholar Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Brainerd, MN Posts: 97	Originally Posted by bknight I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment? Hence the power of poe's law. I'm not at all the only person in this thread having a go for the sake of fun fyi. "Plane shaped missiles" didn't tip you off? This used to be more enjoyable when the op's engaged in the discussion.
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31st December 2019, 01:30 PM	#48
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 29,958	We shouldn't have to check people's character sheets to know if we should respond to inanity one way or the other. Having to keep track of who's an idiot, who's a troll, and who's an amazing performance art subtle deconstruction of a troll is and the list of unofficial rules as to how we have to respond to each getting tiresome.
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31st December 2019, 01:33 PM	#49
abaddon Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 21,214	Originally Posted by Deadie Hundreds? This is lower Manhatten during morning commute. We're talking 10s of thousands or more pairs of eyeballs. Clearly, each and every person that claims to have seen anything is a crisis actor. Question for the op: Do we know the location, size and power of the speakers used to broadcast the sound of passenger jets that would have flown at that low altitude? Oh, right, you are new. The OP believe that missiles were used to create all of those "apparent" plane shaped holes by means of an unfeasible amount of precision accuracy. Or occasionally, it was nukes planted in the buildings when they were built, or make up whatever you want. He does.
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31st December 2019, 12:55 PM	#41
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,390	Originally Posted by bknight Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy Looking at 'body of work' I would day sarcasm.

31st December 2019, 01:13 PM	#43
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Looking at 'body of work' I would day sarcasm. Originally Posted by turingtest Pretty sure, given his first post in this thread, that Deadie was being facetious. It does illustrate something about CT-driven thought, though, doesn't it? when you can't tell the difference between someone saying something silly facetiously and someone else saying something just as silly seriously... I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment?

31st December 2019, 01:21 PM	#45
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,390	Originally Posted by bknight I see nothing that would pass the smell test of sarcasm, but if it would then what would be the purpose? Trollish behavior to elicit a comment? Comment from the OP

31st December 2019, 01:28 PM	#47
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,390	I think your lack of posting history told against you

31st December 2019, 01:34 PM	#50
Deadie Scholar Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Brainerd, MN Posts: 97	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue We shouldn't have to check people's character sheets to know if we should respond to inanity one way or the other. Having to keep track of who's an idiot, who's a troll, and who's an amazing performance art subtle deconstruction of a troll is getting tiresome. Ok, this is a legitimate and fair point and I apologize to anyone confused about my bad attempt at humor.

31st December 2019, 01:50 PM	#51
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by Deadie Ok, this is a legitimate and fair point and I apologize to anyone confused about my bad attempt at humor. Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely. And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place.

31st December 2019, 01:55 PM	#52
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31st December 2019, 01:56 PM	#53
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by carlitos This subforum isn't only to discuss the serious event, it's to discuss the often-amusing misadventures of conspiracy theorists. You lighten up

31st December 2019, 02:49 PM	#54
abaddon Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 21,214	Originally Posted by bknight Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely. The event itself? Of course not. Roughly 3,000 people died because of 19 religious zealots. That is and never will be a matter of mockery. Yankee's bizarre crap is an entirely different matter. I have no issue mocking that astonishing pile of crap CT delusion at all. Originally Posted by bknight And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place. Credit where it is due. It would never have happened if some random people did not post utter crankery about 911.
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31st December 2019, 03:22 PM	#56
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf But how can you prove that these pieces really came from a plane, does this look like a plane to you? Not a plane but a piece of an airplane fuselage.

31st December 2019, 04:12 PM	#58
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 3,134	Originally Posted by bknight Not a plane but a piece of an airplane fuselage. It's green. You know what else is green ? Military stuff. It's clearly a misille.

31st December 2019, 04:27 PM	#60
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 4,817	Originally Posted by CORed I have been to New York. It certainly appeared to be a real place. OTOH, I did a lot of my "traveling" there on what appeared to be an underground rail system. While on these alleged trains, I spent a lot of time in the dark, and it was pretty difficult to tell what direction I was traveling, how fast I was going, etc., and the stations all looked pretty much the same until I went up the stairs to the outside world, so I can't completely rule out the possibility that it was all an extremely complex hoax, with tens of thousand of stage hands rearranging the sets while I was supposedly traveling on the "underground trains". Manhattan is obviously a Reptilian hologram. It's not a real island, it's a massive alien spaceship. All of those bridges and tunnels are just gateways into a giant matrix where everyone is sedated and plugged into a Reptilian computer and have no knowledge that they are being probed and are having their DNA extracted in order to recreate humanity in a distant galaxy. Seriously, why do you think the Indians sold it so damned cheap?
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31st December 2019, 04:31 PM	#61
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,115	Originally Posted by Axxman300 Manhattan is obviously a Reptilian hologram. It's not a real island, it's a massive alien spaceship. All of those bridges and tunnels are just gateways into a giant matrix where everyone is sedated and plugged into a Reptilian computer and have no knowledge that they are being probed and are having their DNA extracted in order to recreate humanity in a distant galaxy. Seriously, why do you think the Indians sold it so damned cheap? Probably cause they weren't actually Indians, given they weren't in India.
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31st December 2019, 04:34 PM	#62
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 4,817	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Probably cause they weren't actually Indians, given they weren't in India. Or were they? Just asking questions.
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31st December 2019, 04:40 PM	#63
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by bknight And what do you think of all the forensic evidence from the planes? How does that change the evidence in the impact holes? (It doesn't). It has been five years but the evidence that makes the plane parts moot hasn't changed a bit. Neither has this forum's steadfast refusal to address it.
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31st December 2019, 04:48 PM	#64
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 4,817	Originally Posted by bknight Here's my take on this, I see nothing humorous concerning this event and I take it to heart that people attempting to defend a position of fraud/hoax during the events of 9/11 should be dealt with severely. And your apology is accepted by me, but such apologies should never have been made or accepted in the first place. I agree but in the case of Yankee the most severe reaction which gets the most mileage is ridicule. I'm sure you've read his other threads, when anyone attempts to debate him on the liquid merits of his claims he blows smoke, moves the goal posts, and accuses us of either being CIA shills or mindless fools. Making jokes at his expense on the other hand gets to him. We're not talking about remote controlled aircraft and plastic explosives with this guy, we're talking hardcore No Planes/No Twin Towers/No dead bodies. How can you debate these concepts with a straight face? I don't think 9-11 was funny but Yankee's OP along with his other intellectually inbred posts are a laugh riot. Okay, maybe I should feel sorry for him because he's suffering from some neurological impairment or possibly sun-downing but without evidence for those situations I have to take him at face value. I spend almost half my life as a CTist myself, I have been in meetings where much crazier theories have been advanced by people who are otherwise sane who work in good professions.
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31st December 2019, 04:49 PM	#65
curious cat Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 373	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid It's green. You know what else is green ? Military stuff. It's clearly a misille. See? Gotcha again!

31st December 2019, 04:49 PM	#66
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 4,817	Originally Posted by yankee451 How does that change the evidence in the impact holes? (It doesn't). It has been five years but the evidence that makes the plane parts moot hasn't changed a bit. Neither has this forum's steadfast refusal to address it. See what I mean?
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31st December 2019, 04:55 PM	#67
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by Axxman300 I agree but in the case of Yankee the most severe reaction which gets the most mileage is ridicule. I'm sure you've read his other threads, when anyone attempts to debate him on the liquid merits of his claims he blows smoke, moves the goal posts, and accuses us of either being CIA shills or mindless fools. Making jokes at his expense on the other hand gets to him. We're not talking about remote controlled aircraft and plastic explosives with this guy, we're talking hardcore No Planes/No Twin Towers/No dead bodies. How can you debate these concepts with a straight face? I don't think 9-11 was funny but Yankee's OP along with his other intellectually inbred posts are a laugh riot. Okay, maybe I should feel sorry for him because he's suffering from some neurological impairment or possibly sun-downing but without evidence for those situations I have to take him at face value. I spend almost half my life as a CTist myself, I have been in meetings where much crazier theories have been advanced by people who are otherwise sane who work in good professions. I like jokes. That's why I'm here.
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31st December 2019, 04:57 PM	#68
DuvalHMFIC Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,545	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf But how can you prove that these pieces really came from a plane, does this look like a plane to you? I really, really want to photoshop "Yes, this is part of a plane" onto that picture
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31st December 2019, 04:59 PM	#69
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Why, look at that. Still moderated. The truth hurts. http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571
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31st December 2019, 05:03 PM	#71
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf For anyone wondering about the providence of the piece, it was on display in the NYPD Museum's 9/11 exhibit in 2008. Here's the display it was in. And yes they are my own photos from my trip there. Oh yes. Concrete that flowed like lava. Snicker. I tried to discuss that canard here too, but alas, the conversation had so many skeptics foaming at the mouth it too had to be moderated. And remains so. The truth hurts. http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=252571
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31st December 2019, 05:06 PM	#72
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by bknight For the benefit of everyone list the evidence that makes the plane parts moot. Don't post links your page(s), just list the evidence. Danced about ad nasea here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571
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31st December 2019, 05:11 PM	#73
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by yankee451 http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uplo...ectories-1.jpg Danced about ad nasea here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=271571 And what is the point you are trying to make? No links, just words here.

31st December 2019, 05:13 PM	#74
curious cat Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 373	Originally Posted by bknight Right, in the middle of a collapsing building(s) someone is going to go out and plant evidence. Because you posted this I assume you may believe this fantasy, but in the real world how is this to be accomplished without anyone noticing? Or why hasn't a whistle blower and come forth proclaiming responsibility for planting anything? Oh wait I know the government death squads. LOL It is sad how you are underestimating the perpetrators of this crime, silly... Don't you know THEY have superhuman powers, unlimited resources at their disposal, use alien technology and can manipulate the brains of masses? How can you be so blind? There are proofs of it everywhere - just look at the chemtrails! I wouldn't be surprised you actually believe the Earth is round too!

31st December 2019, 05:24 PM	#75
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by bknight And what is the point you are trying to make? No links, just words here. At the far left of both impact holes, by itself the lightly damaged cladding is proof a 767's wing tip wasn't responsible. A few feet away from the lightly damage aluminum sheeting are heavily damaged steel columns that were impacted from the side, in a completely different direction than the jet was traveling. On the ninth column from the left is an inward blasting hole, nowhere near where the alleged jet engine impacted. Something, or some things, struck from the side. Therefore what we were shown on television cannot have been responsible. There are many more details discussed in the moderated post, and of course on my site.
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31st December 2019, 05:25 PM	#76
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by curious cat It is sad how you are underestimating the perpetrators of this crime, silly... Don't you know THEY have superhuman powers, unlimited resources at their disposal Yes. They can make very smart people believe impossible things.
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31st December 2019, 05:36 PM	#77
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,354	Originally Posted by yankee451 At the far left of both impact holes, by itself the lightly damaged cladding is proof a 767's wing tip wasn't responsible. A few feet away from the lightly damage aluminum sheeting are heavily damaged steel columns that they were impacted from the side, in a completely different direction than the jet was traveling. You are of course a forensic damage expert that can differentiate how/why damage occurs as the plane impacts the, please list your qualifications and training. Quote: On the ninth column from the left is an inward blasting hole, nowhere near where the alleged jet engine impacted. Please show a graphic to prove your allegation Quote: Something, or some things, struck from the side. Therefore what we were shown on television cannot have been responsible. There are many more details discussed in the moderated post, and of course on my site. You know there was live TV for all to see a plane approaching the south tower other views show the airplane slamming into the tower. Where do you claim that a that it could not be responsible.

31st December 2019, 05:40 PM	#78
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 48,609	Originally Posted by yankee451 Yes. They can make very smart people believe impossible things. Wouldn't it be easier to just crash planes into things, if that's the impression they were trying to create?

31st December 2019, 05:41 PM	#79
yankee451 Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,774	Originally Posted by bknight You are of course a forensic damage expert that can differentiate how/why damage occurs as the plane impacts the, please list your qualifications and training. Please show a graphic to prove your allegation You know there was live TV for all to see a plane approaching the south tower other views show the airplane slamming into the tower. Where do you claim that a that it could not be responsible. I am capable of doing my own thinking. If that makes me an expert, then so be it. If you require an expert to do your thinking for you, then you'll have to take my word for it. All the views of the "live" impact were capturing the north face of the North Tower. None of them caught the "crash." Those that do show the crash were not broadcast live.
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