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Iranian general Qassem Suleimani asassinated in drone strike / WWIII?
The US has assassinated a major Iranian leader overnight as a "target of opportunity" in an action that, according to CNN, was planned with only Republican members of Congress. Representatives of the Senate and the Minority Leader in the House (McCarthy) were seen leaving the secured area of Mar-A-Lago prior to announcement of the attack.
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I don't think that's the correct use of the expression "The tail wagging the dog".
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WWIII on the way? USA takes out Iranian General
USA takes out Iranian General Qasem Soleimani.
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This is under 'general politics' as it has repercussions worldwide IMV. Oil prices have already risen 4% and US citizens urged to get out ASAP. |
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Definitely WW III.
Quickly convert your assets into cash and buy Gold and Coffee from my prepper website. |
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Iranian general Qassem Suleimani asassinated in drone strike ordered by Trump
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Now the region has a new Martyr of unprecedented level. All hell will break loose against US forces. Congratulations.
Relevant thread: https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1212966187157663748 |
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From the thread above:
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And it conveniently gets the news about the unredacted emails directly implicating Trump in the Ukraine scandal off the radar...imagine that...the warmonger uses war to distract the media from his treasonous crimes.
Also important to note as I did in my thread on the topic that he froze out the Democrats from the planning process AGAIN. |
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It's just three days into the new year and things are already getting very exciting!
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I think that's likely one of the reasons. It can also be claimed as an excuse to stop the impeachment proceedings entirely as a matter of security. And being at war is usually a good move when it comes to being re-elected.
Pretty much the only things I don't think this was about are making America or the Middle East safer.
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For those who didn't pay attention, here's the lead-up from an article Elijah Magnier wrote before the assassination: How the US was hoist by its own petard in Iraq and the wishful thinking of its thinktanks.
Originally Posted by Elijah Magnier
Who is now a martyr and has already been replaced by a man most likely not much less capable than himself. ![]() |
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At least we can rest easy that President Trump is telling us the truth about the threat, and that he always puts the interests of the USA above his own political interests, and he knows how to build coalitions, and he would never act rashly because he's a very stable genius who is keenly aware of geopolitical realities, and he knows more than the generals anyway.
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So now Dominic Raab, UK Foreign Secretary, has expressed support for Trump, whilst advising de-escalation (as if!). So, it looks like British troops will once again be dragged into an unwanted war.
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New decade, time for a new military entanglement in the middle east. Hope we liked the dismal failure of the Iraq war, because this one will only be the same, but more so.
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Democrats will be aghast at his pointless escalation of conflict in the Middle East, conveniently forgetting that they have approved every military budget Trump has asked for.
At this point, I almost feel like we need a "rip the bandaid off" approach to US military excesses. Some president needs to just withdraw every US troop from foreign soil and let the chips fall where they may. This would be a disaster, but this country has proven to be totally incapable of acting with good judgement in these matters. Are we seriously ginning up a war because Iran killed some military contractor? Who gives a **** if he was an American, he was a literal mercenary. |
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I would imagine an uptick in terrorist activity aimed at the USA somewhere in the near future is far more likely than 'World War III'.
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I find myself feeling incredibly ill informed. There's US troops sitting halfway across the world doing something or another, but I'm really not sure what. Now, there have been protests, and so a US airstrike takes out an Iranian general in Iraq.
My first question was, "What was an Iranian general doing in Iraq?" If the answer was any variation on "conducting a war", it's hard to get too bent out of shape about him becoming a casualty. That happens in war. On the other hand, I would like to think this was part of a well thought out course of action, as opposed to some sort of knee jerk, "They can't do that. Find me someone to kill!" reaction from our president. The whole thing seems very sad. I always wonder why people think these things are so important that they have to hang out killing each other. Can't we just give everyone internet service so they can play chess or watch porn or view cat videos? It seems like a better life than smuggling rocket propelled grenades. |
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Right out of the Maggie playbook.
I'd really like to live in a world where starting a war makes a politician less likely to be re-elected. Ho hum. |
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John Bolton Tweeted
@AmbJohnBolton Congratulations to all involved in eliminating Qassem Soleimani. Long in the making, this was a decisive blow against Iran's malign Quds Force activities worldwide. Hope this is the first step to regime change in Tehran. |
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God willing Trump will waffle on this nonsense as he does on everything and things manage to de-escalate. Can't really say I'm optimistic.
The US public is going to find out, once again, that we're only good at about 1/2 of the the whole "regime change" thing. Sure, the US military can curb stomp the Iranian state, but we'll be totally unable to stop the chaotic destruction that will rush to fill the vacuum of power. So yeah, no WWIII. Just a breeding ground for terrorists and extremism and a fresh source of IED wounded US troops. Victory! |
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If you want to pin a single man who did the most to defeat ISIS, it was General Soleimani. He coordinated between forces from the whole region and was respected by all opposing the terror cult, noch just Shi'ites. He is said to have played a major role in getting Hezbollah (the Lebanese group, not to be confused with the Iraqi Khataib Hezbollah which was attacked by the US last week) involved, and even that he got Putin convinced to intervene. You can't overestimate the damage this assassination has done to what was left of any positive image of the US in the whole region. This man was adored by "the Arab street", and that will have consequences. |
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I remember hearing news commentary at least a couple of years ago to the effect that...
“The only winner of the Iraq invasion is Iran.” |
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