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Yes, stripped of titles including HRH and public funding/protection |
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9 | 25.71% |
Yes but keeping titles incl HRH, public funding, protection and Frogmore Cottage |
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2 | 5.71% |
No, Harry cannot give up his British citizenship and Archie belongs to the Queen |
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3 | 8.57% |
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21 | 60.00% |
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Yahtzee: "You're doing that thing again where when asked a question you just discuss the philosophy of the question instead of answering the bloody question." Gabriel: "Well yeah, you see..." Yahtzee: "No. When you are asked a Yes or No question the first word out of your mouth needs to be Yes or No. Only after that have you earned the right to elaborate." |
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A proposal from the palace! The queen has offered to let Harry and Meghan off the hook of royal duty...if they can defeat her and Philip on Countdown!
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Nah it's if they can beat them on 8 out of 10 Cats do Countdown.
And let's not forget he could also threaten the royals with another It's a Royal Knockout. Mind you he could also be threatening to release the hound of the baskervilles (aka the royal who has been locked up in a turret in Windsor for 70 years). It's amazing all the things he could be threatening to do if he doesn't get his way! Wonder which rag I can get to pay me for all these "he could"s? |
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Meh. Such polls are contaminated by teenaged girls, who are notoriously bad judges of male beauty. There is a powerful distinction between "good looking" and "attractive". William when younger would look nice on a coin. Harry when younger would look hot on one's bedroom floor.
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Bald is beautiful!
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I do too... I think it adds a certain amount of character to a country's social and political landscape.
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The Queen is still considered the Head of State for Canada, but her representative is the Governor General, who is selected by the Prime Minister at the time and serves 5 year terms. They do the same sort of functions that the Queen does in the U.K. (reading the throne speech, formally 'dissolving' parliament, etc.) The problem though is that when you have an 'appointed' or 'elected' position (rather than hereditary) you run the risk of the position becoming political. |
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I personally think its beneficial to a country to have a ceremonial figure as a "head of state", someone removed from the politics of the country, and for whom protocol is considered a defining feature.
For example, lets say you were an American, and you just saved a bunch of orphans from a burning building. Since the orphans happen to be white, the Trump administration decides to award you the Medal of freedom fries. You go into the ceremony knowing that the person presiding over the ceremony is someone who called neo-Nazis "fine people", and during the ceremony there is a pretty good chance that Trump will decide to go off on a racist rant. (This happened when Trump was at a ceremony to honor the WW2 "Code talkers".) On the other hand, lets say your brother from Britain also rescued orphans from a burning building, and they decide to award him the Royal order of the Crumpet (or whatever honor they give for that sort of thing). They know that there is a higher probability of the ceremony being treated with respect, and even though they never voted for the queen, they also didn't vote against her either. That's one example... I can think of others: greeting heads of state, doing throne speeches/state of the unions, etc. |
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Being a figurehead is no more stupid a job than being a spokesmodel. And as with any job, some are suited to the work and others are not, some enjoy it and others don't. As long as somebody's paying for the position to be filled it's clearly of value to somebody.
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Regarding security for the Harrys while in Canada, From the Globe and Mail 3 days ago.
“His Royal Highness, Prince Henry of Wales [Harry], along with members of his family, are Internationally Protected Persons (IPPs) and are entitled to the protection of the RCMP while in Canada,” said Cpl. Caroline Duval of the RCMP in a statement. “As part of its mandate, the RCMP is responsible at all times for the safety and security of visiting members of the Royal Family while they are in Canada. Security costs for protection of visiting members of the Royal Family while in Canada are covered through the existing operational budget. For security reasons, we cannot provide a detailed breakdown of these costs. For security reasons, the RCMP does not disclose the number of police personnel assigned to work during this type of visit.” Looks like Canada will foot the bill for security in our country unless some cost arrangement can be made with the UK. |
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Prince Philip supposedly made >20,000 public appearances in a career that lasted over half a century. The fact that he may have made a few gaffs in that time is perhaps not that surprising.
Still a better average than Trump, who tends to say things that are somehow wrong pretty much every week. |
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Queen agrees on 'period of transition' for Harry and Meghan
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That means the queen allowed Harry to recharge his crystal amulet at the Bloodwell, but if he wants more he'll have to either set up his own in Canada or come crawling back. The star lizard lifeforce is finite, and periodic channelling is vital to maintain human form. Harry thinks he can overcome the addiction through willpower but the queen well knows the hunger always wins in the end. She will set her Dalek guards around the temple perimeter to catch anyone sneaking back in.
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Prince Philip was born into a centuries-old establishment that produced severe social expectations of behavior and presentation, and applied mandatory education and training fulfill that expectation.
Americans pretty forcefully rejected that establishment and its expectations. As a result, even its leading figures commonly seem crass and boorish to their more refined and constrained cousins across the pond. Of course Philip has been less gaffe-prone than Trump. That quality, in Prince Philip, is pretty much the one thing that justifies his existence. Being less gaffe-prone than literally anyone else in the world is kind of the point of Prince Philip. Not giving a **** about that sort of thing is kind of the point of being American. |
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Jesus Christ that's a lot of vicious and violent hate for royalty.
The French idea was murderous, horrific, inhumane, and all around awful. You want to see a good idea for how to deal with obsolete royalty? Look at the UK. Look at the British commonwealth. Those people knew how to do it right. Your idea of running around murdering people whose privilege you dislike is so wrong as to be monstrous. Would you like to reset and try again? |
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This was all largely a joke.
I do think it is ridiculous for a nation of free citizens to pay such reverence to such a regressive institution. It's pathetic. There was a time when killing absolute monarchs was a moral answer. Nowadays they should just be taxed into oblivion like all other rich layabouts. |
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A look at how the major British tabloids have treated Meghan Markle as compared to Kate Middleton.
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Big Phil' rocks man.
Easily my favourite royal. 98 Prince Philip gaffes, for his 98th birthday https://inews.co.uk/light-relief/jok...8-years-500658
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Please explain what you imagine "pay such reverence" actually means.
I am Canadian, and I think having a monarch as ceremonial head of state is a good thing because it removes the political nature from the position. But I do not believe that the position of the monarch is ordained by god. I do not think they are above the law. I do not let it affect my day-to-day activities. I never tune in to royal weddings or the queen's address. So does that count as 'reverence'? |
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