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I am well aware of EEG (I mentioned it in my post #156). I was writing about electromagnetic radiation by the brain in the radio frequency range (and, in the case of telepathy, the most interesting frequencies are probably around 10 MHz, I suppose (though this is really unproved speculation)). The radio frequency range starts at 3 kHz (see my post #153, where I quoted wikipedia), while EEG frequencies are at most about 100 Hz, as I explained to you in post #156 (I hope that you know what a frequency is, and what MHz means).
As far as I know, electromagnetic radiation by the brain around 10 MHz has never been measured seriously, making such a measurement would certainly much more difficult than stating "this poster will not change his mind no matter what evidence is presented", after a beer or two. |
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I'll repeat my question and rephrase:
Assume you learned tomorrow that you have no telepathic ability. How would your life change? Would you be better or worse off and why? This is not a trick question--because I don't know your answer and I can't even speculate on it. I just am curious as to your mindset. |
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Yes, thanks, I'm familiar with the terminology.
10MHz happens to be a radio frequency much used by radio amateurs for long distance communication. There have been people listening intently to the 10MHz/30 metre band for many decades. So far as I'm aware, nobody has yet reported reception from a distant source being interfered with by the presence of human brains closer to the receiver. Not even if there were many millions of them within a few miles. |
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How in any way shape or form is it perverse?
Time to add a new event Events so far ( I know I missed a few)
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I think it would be far more accurate to say that the latest telepathy test I have done on this forum (in which Emily's Cat gave an incorrect and non-credible answer, while cullennz, from New Zealand (the antipode, for me in Belgium), gave a correct and credible answer, opening post, analysis) was a superb success.
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Michel's urine subtraction detection system is offline.
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I say 'missile'.
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Telepathy test: which word did I write?
Hi, I invite you to participate in a telepathy test.
At about 5:47 p.m. on this Friday October 14 (Brussels, Belgium time), I wrote carefully one of the ten words: "Belgium", "England", "Scotland", "Ireland", "U.S.A.", "Australia", "New Zealand", "France", "Germany" and "Russia" on my sheet of paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse. Then, I wrote it again twice. I shall repeat this word from time to time during this test. I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt). You may also answer "I don't know". In an attempt to try to give some clarity to this test, I also ask you to answer the following question : Do you sometimes have an impression of "hearing some of my thoughts", because of an unusual telepathy phenomenon? My (first) name is Michel, I live near Brussels (Belgium). Thank you for participating. |
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I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus.
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Deja remote vu...
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I don't know which word you wrote.
I never have an impression of seeming to hear some of your thoughts. This is a completely honest and sincere answer without any sarcasm or hidden jokes at all. |
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And this is why it is pointless to engage with you; you reject as a lie any answer that disagrees with your starting hypothesis. You've said before, by the way, that clearer and more definite answers are of better quality; I presume that rule has now become inconvenient and must be jettisoned.
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This test would be more valid if you didn't give any options. Let people choose from the whole range of all words from all languages. If people can really hear your thoughts then a large number of people should get the correct word, even just by writing the first thing that comes into their heads.
In order to prevent people copying each other, you could have people send them to you via PM, and you reveal after a week or a month what all the different words were. You should also send the word you're thinking of to a trusted person in advance. If, say, 60% of people get the word correct, then that counts as a pass. What say you? |
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You've said a great many things, and the sheer volume of posts makes it difficult to find any specific statement. But here's a set of criteria for determining the honesty of a post that you posted some time ago. I note that you say these criteria are, not that these criteria include, the items on the list.
And let's recap my response. I have no idea what word you wrote. I am 100% certain of this. I have never felt any sensation of receiving thoughts from you or any other person other than via the usual sensory apparatus. Which of your criteria apply to this statement? Dave |
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I see no obvious reason why I should discard your statement as non-credible. However, it is my experience that, in the area of telepathy, people can frequently be very dishonest. I am not that interested in polished "standard lies".
I also note that you did not choose any of the ten countries proposed in my opening post, as your answer (it's usually when people really participate in the test, by making a definite choice in the forced-choice test, that things begin to become more interesting). |
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A very sincere answer.
I looked at and concentrated on each word in your list for several seconds. I did that several times. I got no impression of any of the words over any of the others, so I don't know what word you wrote. I have never had any impression that I could hear your thoughts or those of anyone else. |
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I also have no idea what word you wrote, I cannot and have never, heard your thoughts.
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I don't know.
I have never had the impression I was hearing someone else's thoughts. I choose not to share personal information such as my name and location in a public post. |
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Same we he does credibility. If the person answered correctly then it's credible/honest if they picked something else then what he circled they are not credible/dishonest.
ETA: Michel; I do not know what word you wrote or circled, I cannot and have never heard your thoughts, ever |
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I do not have any idea. I can't read thoughts. No one can. I've never heard any of your thoughts.
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I believe the word you wrote down was "Camgirls"
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I have never had the impression of hearing or otherwise perceiving anyone else's thoughts, so I have no idea which word you wrote down and thought about.
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