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Old 10th November 2017, 02:55 AM   #3441
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
They've really played him well, all that pomp and he's putty in their hands.
No kidding, drag out the traditional dancers, give him the ceremonial tat from the souvenir shop and our president is now your prison date. China might as well tattoo a picture of a hot chick on his back.
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Old 10th November 2017, 03:30 AM   #3442
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41937426

Trump at Apec summit: US will no longer tolerate trade abuses

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President Donald Trump has said the US will no longer tolerate "chronic trade abuses", in a defiant address at the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) summit in Vietnam.
He said he would always put US interests first and Apec nations should "abide by fair reciprocal trade".
In stark contrast, China's Xi Jinping said globalisation was irreversible and voiced support for multilateralism.
But it's not the fault of China, he admires them. It was those previous US Presidents that are to blame.
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Old 10th November 2017, 08:32 AM   #3443
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I just have to think that in private China's Xi Jinping is saying to his advisors, "Psshhh... this guy....!"
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Old 10th November 2017, 08:35 AM   #3444
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Did anyone else watch this weeks episode of South Park?

Spot on, imo
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Old 10th November 2017, 10:39 AM   #3445
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Today's BBC OS "Trump's Towns" from Phoenix Arizona, is more encouraging

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172vrb5cv15kyw
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OS continues its US tour, coming live from the newsroom of the Arizona Republic newspaper in Phoenix, Arizona - a town that voted for Trump despite the conservative newspaper endorsing Clinton. We hear from journalists and local people about how they feel now.
The Arizona Republic shows what a respectable conservative looks like
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Old 10th November 2017, 10:47 AM   #3446
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
Today's BBC OS "Trump's Towns" from Phoenix Arizona, is more encouraging

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172vrb5cv15kyw

The Arizona Republic shows what a respectable conservative looks like
For those of us who are at work or otherwise cannot listen, could you give a brief description of what the show was about?

It sounds like it involves people admitting "I voted for Trump but it was a mistake". But did they give indications why they voted for him in the first place and/or why they changed their opinion?

And did they give any statistics/opinion polls or just random interviews?
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Old 10th November 2017, 10:49 AM   #3447
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41937426

Trump at Apec summit: US will no longer tolerate trade abuses



But it's not the fault of China, he admires them. It was those previous US Presidents that are to blame.
Nixon!
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Old 10th November 2017, 10:58 AM   #3448
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
For those of us who are at work or otherwise cannot listen, could you give a brief description of what the show was about?

It sounds like it involves people admitting "I voted for Trump but it was a mistake". But did they give indications why they voted for him in the first place and/or why they changed their opinion?

And did they give any statistics/opinion polls or just random interviews?
It's general discussion - from the newsroom of the Arizona Republic, which endorsed a Democrat candidate last year, for the first time since it started publication in 1890, saying that Trump isn't Conservative.

They also were saying that sexual harassment is a major problem, and that the outrage about the recent news has reached a tipping point, including amongst conservatives (and gave quotes)

It is still being broadcast, but the staff are not wilfully ignorant - unlike the staff of the Times Gazette in Hillsboro, Ohio.
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Old 10th November 2017, 02:52 PM   #3449
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Carroll Bryant



He was in his 40's when he tried to seduce a 17 year old Mexican girl. when that failed he tried to bully her into committing suicide:
Backstory: The Legend of Carroll Bryant

Now he's claiming it's better to have pedophiles in office than Democrats:
Democrats Versus Pedophiles
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Brett J. Talley, President Trump’s nominee to be a federal judge in Alabama, has never tried a case, was unanimously rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Assn.’s judicial rating committee, has practiced law for only three years and, as a blogger last year, displayed a degree of partisanship unusual for a judicial nominee, denouncing “Hillary Rotten Clinton” and pledging support for the National Rifle Assn.


On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee, on a party-line vote, approved him for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...110-story.html
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Old 10th November 2017, 03:37 PM   #3451
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Brett J. Talley, President Trump’s nominee to be a federal judge in Alabama, has never tried a case, was unanimously rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Assn.’s judicial rating committee, has practiced law for only three years and, as a blogger last year, displayed a degree of partisanship unusual for a judicial nominee, denouncing “Hillary Rotten Clinton” and pledging support for the National Rifle Assn.


On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee, on a party-line vote, approved him for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...110-story.html

The GOP is getting more blatant. They are knocking out the other leg of the checks and balances - I just hope they don't go too far before 2020
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Old 10th November 2017, 04:08 PM   #3452
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Brett J. Talley, President Trump’s nominee to be a federal judge in Alabama, has never tried a case, was unanimously rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Assn.’s judicial rating committee, has practiced law for only three years and, as a blogger last year, displayed a degree of partisanship unusual for a judicial nominee, denouncing “Hillary Rotten Clinton” and pledging support for the National Rifle Assn.


On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee, on a party-line vote, approved him for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...110-story.html

**** us. This country is so screwed.
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**** us. This country is so screwed.
I do hope the Democrats are saving these appointment confirmations up for Senate campaign ads.

Also, impeachment of federal judges is a possibility we need to keep in mind.
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Old 10th November 2017, 07:41 PM   #3454
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Personally I would love for a Democrat to run on a platform of punishing Trump supporters with a massive, brutal totalitarian crackdown. They would, and shouldn't, win but I'd love to be able to put their campaign signs all over my yard on a busy street corner just so everyone that voted Trump could see how much I hate them.

It would be hugely divisive and would never work politically but, damn, it would feel good.
Uh? Divisive is quite politically workable.

Divisive has a solid grip on power up and down the board right now. Hardly a progressive or conservative I know not willing to be quite divisive on a regular basis lately.

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Old 11th November 2017, 01:19 AM   #3455
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Flynn's lawyer has denied that Flynn discussed ways to abduct Turkish cleric and send him to Turkey.
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Wrong thread.

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Flynn's lawyer has denied that Flynn discussed ways to abduct Turkish cleric and send him to Turkey.
What value can a denial from this group have? It's not as if the president and those he associates himself with are honorable people.
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Old 11th November 2017, 03:25 AM   #3458
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What value can a denial from this group have? It's not as if the president and those he associates himself with are honorable people.
I guess there are enough people who would take such a denial at face value.
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What value can a denial from this group have? It's not as if the president and those he associates himself with are honorable people.
I did make that point in the Trump and Russia thread, but I can't see anything else about the story anywhere on ISF. (On that thread it is not quite a derail, but it was buried under discussion about photos of Putin shaking hands...

HEre is Esquire's take on it

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...al-15-million/

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At the time of this meeting at 21, Michael Flynn was one of the incoming administration*’s foremost national security advisors. He was intimately involved with planning the transition to a new administration that, even more than most, was being assembled on the fly by people who really didn’t know what they were doing, including Flynn himself, God knows. Still, Flynn allegedly found the time to cut a deal with a foreign power to kidnap one of its enemies on American soil and transport him overseas, for which the Flynns pere et fils would be paid $15 million. Later, when as far as anyone knows, his deal with Turkey was still pending, Flynn would become the president*s National Security Advisor, with all the power and influence that office entails.
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Flynn's lawyer has denied that Flynn discussed ways to abduct Turkish cleric and send him to Turkey.
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I guess there are enough people who would take such a denial at face value.

"Never believe anything until it's been officially denied."
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What value can a denial from this group have? It's not as if the president and those he associates himself with are honorable people.

And what value has the accusation? This is almost three weeks old:

Targeting Michael Flynn & Shielding the Radical Cleric Gulen: Special Counsel Robert Mueller MUST Step Down

Originally Posted by Sibel Edmonds
General Michael Flynn, Former National Security Advisor to President Trump, is being investigated by Special Counsel for accepting legitimate payments from Turkish companies for researching and exposing Wanted Terrorist and Radical Islamist Fethullah Gulen and his $25+ Billion criminal network in the United States.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller is Special Counsel in charge of the case. He is the same Robert Mueller who used his position as Director of the FBI to shield and cover up Gulen’s criminal-terrorist network and operations, and take drastic measures to quash a whistleblower’s Gulen-related reports. These previous connections and actions by Mr. Mueller create a direct conflict of interest with his current position as Special Counsel in Flynn’s case, and require that he must immediately step down from the case. [...]
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If it's all legit he obviously has nothing to worry about.
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"newsbud.com?"

I think I'll wait until it bears fruit.
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Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling

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“He said he didn’t meddle — I asked him again,” Mr. Trump told reporters traveling with him aboard Air Force One as he flew to Hanoi for more meetings. “You can only ask so many times. I just asked him again. He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they are saying he did.”
When asked, it wasn't anyone else in Trump's first grade class, either.
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Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling



When asked, it wasn't anyone else in Trump's first grade class, either.
That pretty much settles it doesn't it? We can put all this nonsense aside, glad that Putin respects Trump so much that there is no way at all he would seek to lie to Trump.
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling



When asked, it wasn't anyone else in Trump's first grade class, either.
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That pretty much settles it doesn't it? We can put all this nonsense aside, glad that Putin respects Trump so much that there is no way at all he would seek to lie to Trump.
I wouldn't be so sure about the denials - from the Trump and Russia thread:

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So Trump says he asked about election meddling and Putin said he didn't do it...and Trump believes him. Okay the best case scenario here is that Trump is just that stupid. The worst case scenario is that Trump knows Putin is lying and just doesn't care and is stupid enough to think this puts the matter to rest.
Putin's press secretary says Donnie didn't ask about meddling:

Originally Posted by The Hill
President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin did not discuss alleged election meddling on Saturday, despite Trump saying they did, according to Putin’s office.


“No,” Putin's press secretary Dmitri Peskov told CNN when asked, “as far as you know, did the two leaders discuss meddling?"
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ction-meddling

So now, I guess Trump wants us to believe Putin except for when he's lying?
It's almost as though Putin is enjoying letting Trump look stupid an untrustworthy, but I can't see why he'd want that... (Apart from geopolitical reasons, and quite possibly the personal reason that Trump is so unlikable that I imagine most of his acquaintances and even political allies would enjoy seeing him humiliated if it didn't harm them).
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Update from Trump and Russia Thread.

Apparently Putin did discuss this.

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Because that sounds so believable
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I wouldn't be so sure about the denials - from the Trump and Russia thread:


It's almost as though Putin is enjoying letting Trump look stupid an untrustworthy, but I can't see why he'd want that... (Apart from geopolitical reasons, and quite possibly the personal reason that Trump is so unlikable that I imagine most of his acquaintances and even political allies would enjoy seeing him humiliated if it didn't harm them).
Peskov told Russian state media they did discuss it. Seems like they're trying to spread FUD.
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"newsbud.com?"

No doubt run by the dog from the Air Bud movie franchise.

Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling

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“He said he didn’t meddle — I asked him again,” Mr. Trump told reporters traveling with him aboard Air Force One as he flew to Hanoi for more meetings. “You can only ask so many times. I just asked him again. He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they are saying he did.”

Didn't Trump try this once before? "I asked him. He said, 'No.' I asked him again. He said, 'No.' Therefore, he's telling the truth."

Imagine if it really were that simple. Court cases could be decided in seconds.

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Update from Trump and Russia Thread.

Apparently Putin did discuss this.



Because that sounds so believable
What value could a claim by Manboobs or The Hair have?
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What value could a claim by Manboobs or The Hair have?
Far greater than the pre$$titutes at the Washington Pest.
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Didn't Trump try this once before? "I asked him. He said, 'No.' I asked him again. He said, 'No.' Therefore, he's telling the truth."

Imagine if it really were that simple. Court cases could be decided in seconds.

It's just like that rule where, if you ask an undercover police officer if he's a cop, he has to tell the truth. If you ask a certain number of times, the person you're asking can't lie.
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Far greater than the pre$$titutes at the Washington Pest.
The Hair's already been caught in lies about Russia. Why should we believe it now?
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Old 11th November 2017, 12:52 PM   #3475
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
The Hair's already been caught in lies about Russia. Why should we believe it now?
Because a different liar says so.


I can tell that you aren't convinced by this reasoning.
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Old 11th November 2017, 02:14 PM   #3476
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Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd View Post
Didn't Trump try this once before? "I asked him. He said, 'No.' I asked him again. He said, 'No.' Therefore, he's telling the truth."

Imagine if it really were that simple. Court cases could be decided in seconds.
Damn it Trump!

The rule is that you have to ask 3 times. On the 3rd time, they can't lie.

This proves Trump knows the Russians meddled, or he would have asked 3 times.
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Old 11th November 2017, 02:33 PM   #3477
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
It's just like that rule where, if you ask an undercover police officer if he's a cop, he has to tell the truth. If you ask a certain number of times, the person you're asking can't lie.
Originally Posted by Charles Lutwidge Dodgson
I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.
Yeah. It's common knowledge that cop shops get their rules from Lewis Carroll poetry.

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Old 11th November 2017, 06:07 PM   #3478
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Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!
Wut? This is Dr. Strangelove meets Mean Girls.
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Old 11th November 2017, 06:17 PM   #3479
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post

He thinks he has a talent for comedy.

Far, far too many people seem to agree.
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Trump's probably got "people" keeping a list of everyone who posts mocking replies on his Twitter account, for when the world recognizes him as rightful king.
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