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Old 17th October 2020, 10:16 PM   #121
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I fear Trump would thrive in Russia - plenty rich guys who will love to have a former President tell them all about US secrets.
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Old 17th October 2020, 10:20 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by SezMe View Post
I just checked. We do NOT have an extradition treaty with Russia so hiding from USA law there is possible. But does Putin want that albatross hanging over him 24/7? I would guess not.
Trump couldn't tolerate not being the big man on campus.
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Old 17th October 2020, 10:24 PM   #123
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There is one problem for Trump in Russia: no one will take him seriously if he refuses to drink.
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Old 17th October 2020, 10:35 PM   #124
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Originally Posted by jerrywayne View Post
Not to overlook another aspect of Trumpism:

"News is “faked”; elections are “rigged”; a “deep state” plots a “coup”; Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia died suspiciously in bed with a pillow over his face; aides of ex-president Barack Obama conspire to undermine foreign policy from a “war room”; Obama himself was a Muslim mole; the National Park Service lied about the size of the crowd at the president’s inauguration; conspiracies are afoot in nearly every department and agency of the executive branch, including the State Department, the CIA, the Justice Department, the Food and Drug Administration, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI (“What are they hiding?”). Thus saith, and maybe even believeth, the president of the United States."
Don’t forget the National Hurricane Center (NHC). They’re in on it too. They are the ones that tricked the president into saying Alabama. Those oceanic and atmospheric guys are always pulling that kind of ****.

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"49]I just checked. We do NOT have an extradition treaty with Russia so hiding from USA law there is possible. But does Putin want that albatross hanging over him 24/7? I would guess not.
Putin would love to take him. He’d then trot Trump out before his friends and say “dance, monkey, dance.” Plus it’s a great PR coup: “America is so corrupt that it’s presidents Have to flee the country.

The weird part would be all the USSS agents that would follow him over there.
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Old 17th October 2020, 11:29 PM   #125
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Originally Posted by Tero View Post
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Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.
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No, just no. Maybe only because it involves "laptop" and "FBI". That's as far as the similarities go.

The FBI does, as a matter of principle, not say anything about this sort of thing.
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They don't even say there is an investigation. FBI policy is to neither confirm nor deny that there is an investigation.
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And yet it's being reported that the FBI has the laptop and is not investigating Biden, they are investigating Russian meddling in the election.

I'll have to look around for the source of the information.
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You'll find that it's not the FBI itself confirming they have anything. It's the guy from the MAC shop, the NY Post, various news media, etc.
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That's not what I read. I'll have to go find it.
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So your issue is pedantry and you're annoyed I read something else into your comment?

You could just say that without the disdain.
Let's take a look at how this started. Pedantry had nothing to do with it.

1) Tero asked why the FBI will not comment on if there is no computer and why they cannot comment on an investigation.

2) You replied that the FBI will not say anything as as a matter of principle.

3) I replied that it is a matter of FBI policy to neither confirm nor deny an investigation.

4) When I pointed out that it wasn't the FBI that said they were investigating it, but the media, the guy from the shop, the pundits, etc. you said that's not what you read and presented an article that read the "FBI is 'reportedly' investigating" thus proving my point.

5). When I pointed that out, instead of accepting that you replied "Well obviously it is 'reportedly'. That is standard news lingo." You completely ignored the entire point that the FBI has not confirmed that they are investigating the matter because their policy, not principle, is to neither confirm nor deny an investigation which was the entire point of our exchange. And then you accused me of pedantry. So, yeah...I am a bit disappointed that you get so defensive about something so trivial.
ETA: It wasn't disdain as much as disappointment.

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Old 18th October 2020, 03:30 AM   #126
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The Democrats, and their media sycophants, absolutely KNOW Biden is an active national security threat to the US.
They just don’t care. #FACT

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Joe Biden has multiple homes, access to private planes, domestic staff. Now we know how he managed to afford all that after 40 years on a government salary! #CrookedJoeBiden

The “big guy” splitting the loot with bag man Hunter Biden was indeed his father Joe!
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Old 18th October 2020, 03:31 AM   #127
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced that the Senate will vote Wednesday on the coronavirus relief proposal crafted by Republicans, in addition to a separate vote on additional funding for a program to aid small businesses on Tuesday.

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•More federally-expanded unemployment benefits for laid-off Americans
•An entire second round of the Paycheck Protection Program to save workers’ jobs at the hardest-hit small businesses
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Old 18th October 2020, 04:55 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
Who in their right mind would toss their ballot into one of these obviously insecure cardboard boxes? Might as well throw it in a garbage can.
A Republican in California, knowing their vote for Trump would be wasted?

But if they do use one of those, they can then complain about it being lost and attempt to discredit the election
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Old 18th October 2020, 05:40 AM   #129
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Failed ObamaCare cost the average American family $5,000 more per year -over doubling our healthcare insurance costs AND canceled 35 Million American’s policies Obama’s 'Affordable' Care Act Greatly Increased Premiums & Lessened Choice See ObamaCare study:
Yes, It Was The 'Affordable' Care Act That Increased Premiums
It turns out that across the board, for all ages and family sizes, for HMO, PPO, and POS plans, premium increases averaged about 60% from 2013, the last year before ACA reforms took effect, to 2017....
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Old 18th October 2020, 05:41 AM   #130
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Old 18th October 2020, 05:43 AM   #131
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I think Biden’s exact words were:
“I don't want to defund police. I want to get police more money in order to deal with the things they badly need from making sure they have access to community policing, that they have also in the department's social workers, psychologists.”
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Old 18th October 2020, 06:39 AM   #132
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1317262449469509632

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"Maybe I'll have to leave the country. I don't know." -- Trump on what could happen if he loses to Biden
Footage embedded in tweet.

Meant as a joke, but I have speculated in the past that after he's done Trump might go to Russia to avoid prosecution in the US.
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:15 AM   #133
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Very proud of the @nypost, my former “hometown newspaper”. They have said and shown what everyone knows about Sleepy Joe Biden. He is a CORRUPT POLITICIAN!!!

Joe Biden is a corrupt politician, and everybody knows it. Now you have the proof, perhaps like never was had before on a major politician. Laptop plus. This is the second biggest political scandal in our history!
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:17 AM   #134
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Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:21 AM   #135
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
Well, why not? If you're going to slander someone, might as well go all the way.
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Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
If there is, I expect the guy from the computer repair store is going to have some explaining to do.
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:25 AM   #137
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Very proud of the @nypost, my former “hometown newspaper”. They have said and shown what everyone knows about Sleepy Joe Biden. He is a CORRUPT POLITICIAN!!!

Joe Biden is a corrupt politician, and everybody knows it. Now you have the proof, perhaps like never was had before on a major politician. Laptop plus. This is the second biggest political scandal in our history!
"Reliable Sources" just finished on CNN and they did a great job covering Fox News's coverage of the laptop non-story. The Trump campaign needed another e-mail scandal story and low and behold, Steve Bannon and Giuliani came up with one.
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:26 AM   #138
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I fear Trump would thrive in Russia - plenty rich guys who will love to have a former President tell them all about US secrets.
I doubt he actually knows many secrets. From all accounts, he never pays attention to his briefings.
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Old 18th October 2020, 09:36 AM   #139
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I doubt he actually knows many secrets. From all accounts, he never pays attention to his briefings.
I wonder how people can resist feeding Trump false information just to see him a) fall for it, and b) blab it to the Russians, and c) Tweet it to the entire planet. If I were an Military Commander Man at the White House, I'd mention in passing "Yes, sir, the new hydrogen-filled stealth zeppelins are working well, we've got them orbiting the North Pole to collect the broken-off pieces of the ozone layer with their sonic lasers" and see how long it took it get out. Ten minutes? I suppose it hinges on how soon Trump needs the toilet.
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If there is, I expect the guy from the computer repair store is going to have some explaining to do.
Does it mean that Rudy has been sitting on a hard drive full of child porn for however long he had it?
Not sure that is something they want to be claiming.
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Old 18th October 2020, 10:34 AM   #141
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3) I replied that it is a matter of FBI policy to neither confirm nor deny an investigation..
Unless it's Anthony Weiner's laptop, just four years ago.
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Old 18th October 2020, 10:39 AM   #142
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I found it interesting that this thread does not have the "(Continuation)" blurb in front of it. Maybe because it might be the last one?
(apropos of nothing, really...)

Now it does have it. And we're already on Page 3. (by my settings) Not really necessary at this point, and many of the earlier threads don't have it. Just an observation. But I haven't posted a nitpicky note for a while.
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Does it mean that Rudy has been sitting on a hard drive full of child porn for however long he had it?
Not sure that is something they want to be claiming.
Bannon boasted weeks ago on Dutch TV that he had the drive.
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Let's take a look at how this started. Pedantry had nothing to do with it.

1) Tero asked why the FBI will not comment on if there is no computer and why they cannot comment on an investigation.

2) You replied that the FBI will not say anything as as a matter of principle.

3) I replied that it is a matter of FBI policy to neither confirm nor deny an investigation.

4) When I pointed out that it wasn't the FBI that said they were investigating it, but the media, the guy from the shop, the pundits, etc. you said that's not what you read and presented an article that read the "FBI is 'reportedly' investigating" thus proving my point.

5). When I pointed that out, instead of accepting that you replied "Well obviously it is 'reportedly'. That is standard news lingo." You completely ignored the entire point that the FBI has not confirmed that they are investigating the matter because their policy, not principle, is to neither confirm nor deny an investigation which was the entire point of our exchange. And then you accused me of pedantry. So, yeah...I am a bit disappointed that you get so defensive about something so trivial.
ETA: It wasn't disdain as much as disappointment.
Give it up Stacy.

You meant one thing, I took it differently. Just say so.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
Because, you know, no one was upset enough yet.
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Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
Yeah, that's it, stir up the Q-nuts; it's not like they're not stirred up enough.
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Corrupt politician Joe Biden makes Crooked Hillary look like an amateur!
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Corrupt politician Joe Biden makes Crooked Hillary look like an amateur!
This coming from one of the world's most "professional" family of outright crooks is hilarious.
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Unless it's Anthony Weiner's laptop, just four years ago.
That was part of the Clinton email investigation that had already been acknowledged by the FBI and had been previously closed. They decided they had to break their own policy:

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In late October, senior FBI officials — newly fearful of leaks about their discovery that might damage the bureau’s reputation — decided they had to disclose. It’s worth remembering that at this point the FBI was already investigating the Trump campaign’s potential collusion with Russia. Comey and his team chose to reveal the reopening of the Clinton investigation but to say nothing about the Trump probe.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Give it up Stacy.

You meant one thing, I took it differently. Just say so.
I have done more that said that. I've quite clearly shown that you were incorrect in the policy vs principle disagreement. So why don't you just be gracious and say so?

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Ron Johnson is on Fox News suggesting there's child pornography on the computer that purportedly belongs to Hunter Biden
Because chanting "lock them up" at Trump's rallies doesn't quite scrape the bottom of the barrel?
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"Twitter has removed a post from Donald Trump’s latest appointee to the White House coronavirus task force claiming that masks do not work to slow the spread of the disease that has infected millions of Americans.

Dr Atlas, a radiologist who reportedly turned down efforts for widespread testing and has clashed with task force members over his controversial approach to the public health crisis, wrote: “Masks work? NO!”

He followed his message with several misleading and false statements about the efficacy of face coverings to combat transmissions and linked to an article in the American Institute for Economic Research that argues against wearing them."

In a statement, Mr Atlas claimed that “Twitter seems to be censoring the science if it goes against their own goals of public indoctrination.”

He has suggested that so-called “herd immunity” in the US was possible with the “likelihood that only 25 or 20 percent of people need the infection.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgdhp

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Old 18th October 2020, 12:41 PM   #155
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Let's take a look at how this started. Pedantry had nothing to do with it.[snip]
What you are saying is you couldn't have possibly been misunderstood.

And yet you were.

I am wrong for misunderstanding you. I'm not sure what other kind of wrong you think I was.

You are welcome to believe I didn't know the FBI doesn't officially comment on cases even though I knew that. I believe that was clear when I described Comey's asinine move. I'm not sure why you think I didn't.

I was discussing the fact we have a version of 'knowing' they are investigating. You meant "officially announcing".

Why wouldn't I admit that had I not known? Huh?
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Old 18th October 2020, 12:42 PM   #156
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Where does he find these people?
In his rectum.
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Old 18th October 2020, 01:21 PM   #157
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Let's take a look at how this started. Pedantry had nothing to do with it.[snip]
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What you are saying is you couldn't have possibly been misunderstood.

And yet you were.

I am wrong for misunderstanding you. I'm not sure what other kind of wrong you think I was.

You are welcome to believe I didn't know the FBI doesn't officially comment on cases even though I knew that. I believe that was clear when I described Comey's asinine move. I'm not sure why you think I didn't.

I was discussing the fact we have a version of 'knowing' they are investigating. You meant "officially announcing".

Why wouldn't I admit that had I not known? Huh?
We never discussed the FBI 'commenting' on cases or Comey so that is a strawman. The only thing we discussed was the FBI policy of neither denying nor confirming an investigation. You tried to negate that it was policy by downplaying the 'reportedly' part in the article you had provided as evidence:

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If you read the article, it says the FBI is 'reportedly' investigating. The FBI itself does not say it is.
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Well obviously it is 'reportedly'. That is standard news lingo. These are reputable news agencies citing sources that should have access to the information and should be reliable.
I think you didn't know it is FBI policy not to confirm or deny an investigation. What I think you did misunderstand is that I thought you didn't know that the FBI doesn't comment on cases they're investigating. Which is never what I thought or said. Do we have that cleared up now?
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Old 18th October 2020, 02:51 PM   #158
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Stacyhs and Skeptic Ginger - can you please take your endless spat to pm or something? Many thanks.
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... I think you didn't know it is FBI policy not to confirm or deny an investigation. ...
Why would I not know that?

Are you kidding? With the whole Comey travesty anyone paying attention knew that. Comey said it many times when he discussed his decision to release the fact the Weiner laptop was being investigated both before and after the 2016 election.

The op ed writers, news pundits and news anchors addressed that ad nauseum discussing the Comey fiasco.

If you hadn't been convinced you had some knowledge you needed to impart, that lI lacked—the FBI policy—you might have realized we were talking past each other.
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