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Old 7th November 2020, 04:52 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
What does the Vice President actually do?

I couldn't name 90% of past ones.

Apart from take over of the prez cards it.
If you're Dick Cheney you stick your arm up Bush's ass and operate his brain.
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Old 7th November 2020, 04:55 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
What does the Vice President actually do?
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Old 7th November 2020, 04:56 PM   #43
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Has Kamala Harris shot her friend in the face with a shotgun and then make them apologize?

No?

Then shut up, she's over-qualified.
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Old 7th November 2020, 04:59 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
What does the Vice President actually do?

I couldn't name 90% of past ones.

Apart from take over of the prez cards it.
Most Americans probably couldn't name 90% of the Presidents. So you're doing fine.
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Old 7th November 2020, 05:00 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
What does the Vice President actually do?

I couldn't name 90% of past ones.

Apart from take over of the prez cards it.
Don't confuse your ignorance for a meaningful yardstick for anything.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Biden's will probably be mostly overturning some of the 700-1000 Trump will put out in the next two months.
Trumpís focus has been on reelection and now will be on overturning the results. I doubt he cares enough about anything to do with running the country to do much more than that.
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Old 7th November 2020, 06:16 PM   #47
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You actually thought Trump would win? I'm sorry, Wowbagger, but I'm going to have to recommend you to the Truth and Reconciliation Committee.
The fact that it wasn't a complete landslide victory for Biden should inform you that his chances were a bit better than most people assumed, almost 4 years ago, when I placed that bet. It was tight enough for people to get nervous for almost a week.



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PS. I guess I shouldn't be surprised from the guy who thinks that the Box graphics of Windows/95ô is/was the epitome of all Microsoft Windowsô box graphics.
It was Office 95, not Windows 95, that I commented on. (Though, I don't think the art for Windows 95 was too shabby, either: Kinda basic, but at least it wasn't stark ugliness like previous box arts for the O.S.)
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Old 7th November 2020, 06:56 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
The fact that it wasn't a complete landslide victory for Biden should inform you that his chances were a bit better than most people assumed, almost 4 years ago, when I placed that bet. It was tight enough for people to get nervous for almost a week.



It was Office 95, not Windows 95, that I commented on. (Though, I don't think the art for Windows 95 was too shabby, either: Kinda basic, but at least it wasn't stark ugliness like previous box arts for the O.S.)
Apologies, but you're taking my comments way too seriously.


The only thing that made it tight was the never-happened-in-the-modern-era overabundance in mail-in voting and the protocols set in place to handle them.
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Prediction: Joe is being honest when he says he wants compromise and to work together. The Republicans will do no such thing. With or without Trump, we're in for four more years of the same old lies and bull **** from the GOP. And their attempts to blame Joe for it. Hopefully, enough people will not fall for it.
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Old 7th November 2020, 07:18 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
Prediction: Joe is being honest when he says he wants compromise and to work together. The Republicans will do no such thing. With or without Trump, we're in for four more years of the same old lies and bull **** from the GOP. And their attempts to blame Joe for it. Hopefully, enough people will not fall for it.
In a lot of ways, it's more like they can't compromise than they just won't. After all, a pretty significant chunk of their base is the evangelical type, and you know what Goldwater said about them-

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Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
And when another pretty significant chunk are the type of people who can be convinced that Joe Biden is a damned commie, and GOP politicians rely on those types for votes...the hope that you can reach compromise with them is just a pretty forlorn one. This is not to say that there aren't some on the left who can be convinced of completely baseless ********- but, sorry, it really does seem more prevalent on the side that relies more on uncritical faith than evidence for support.
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Old 7th November 2020, 07:48 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
Prediction: Joe is being honest when he says he wants compromise and to work together. The Republicans will do no such thing. With or without Trump, we're in for four more years of the same old lies and bull **** from the GOP. And their attempts to blame Joe for it. Hopefully, enough people will not fall for it.
Pretty much. I suspect people dancing in the streets are less likely to vote -- meaning, Georgia's senators will probably be Republicans. It's still a conservative state, and we're talking about a special election.

The best hope for Democrats is that Trump goes to war with the Republican Party. Liberal trolls should be on Twitter in the next few months sending messages like, "Mr. President: Please create the Trump Party."
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Pretty much. I suspect people dancing in the streets are less likely to vote -- meaning, Georgia's senators will probably be Republicans. It's still a conservative state, and we're talking about a special election.

The best hope for Democrats is that Trump goes to war with the Republican Party. Liberal trolls should be on Twitter in the next few months sending messages like, "Mr. President: Please create the Trump Party."
I don't know. I sense some serious moolah will be going to the Dem candidates. They're riding high and feeling the energy. Watch this space.
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Old 7th November 2020, 08:13 PM   #53
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Pretty much. I suspect people dancing in the streets are less likely to vote -- meaning, Georgia's senators will probably be Republicans. It's still a conservative state, and we're talking about a special election.

The best hope for Democrats is that Trump goes to war with the Republican Party. Liberal trolls should be on Twitter in the next few months sending messages like, "Mr. President: Please create the Trump Party."
I don't think Georgia is all that conservative. Like Texas it is due for a flip. It's oppressive and the Republicans did almost everything possible to suppress the vote. The problem is it is hard to expect the Democrats keeping up the pressure without the Trump demon. And these runoffs will be super expensive races.
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Old 7th November 2020, 08:19 PM   #54
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Pretty much. I suspect people dancing in the streets are less likely to vote -- meaning, Georgia's senators will probably be Republicans. It's still a conservative state, and we're talking about a special election.

The best hope for Democrats is that Trump goes to war with the Republican Party. Liberal trolls should be on Twitter in the next few months sending messages like, "Mr. President: Please create the Trump Party."
Won't happen. The Republicans are a unified force because they have no standards while the Democrats are already starting to form the "Liberal/Progressive" battle lines and will start eating each other alive as soon as the high of this win wears off.

The Republicans can get a man who bangs porn starts and Evangelicals under the same tent easier then the Democrats can get "We want to wheel out the guillotine and behead the rich all the time" and "We want to wheel out the guillotine and behead the rich 99% of the time" under the same tent.

Having no standards is morally horrible, but it means that the Republicans aren't running cause purity test on their own potential allies to anywhere near the degree the Left is.
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I don't think Georgia is all that conservative. Like Texas it is due for a flip. It's oppressive and the Republicans did almost everything possible to suppress the vote. The problem is it is hard to expect the Democrats keeping up the pressure without the Trump demon. And these runoffs will be super expensive races.
That's why I think the Dems might start another money drive ASAP to fight for it. So expect to see more Chuck Schumer adds when you watch Youtube?


ETA: just saw this when googling Chuck Schumer.

https://twitter.com/NRSC/status/1325...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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That's why I think the Dems might start another money drive ASAP to fight for it.
Just wondering how much money the Democrats have left after the last election. Overall I know they raised over $1 billion dollars, and unlike the Republicans, they don't seem to have been wasting it on things like Trump's lawyers and kickbacks to Trump cronies.

Hopefully they still have lots of cash saved up to use to fight the runoffs.
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Fellow Biden voters: What sort of executive actions would you like to see in the first week or so?
For one thing, rescind the decision to withdraw the US from the World Health Organization. And rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement.
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Old 7th November 2020, 09:57 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
What does the Vice President actually do?

I couldn't name 90% of past ones.

Apart from take over of the prez cards it.
Well 10% of 46 is about five.

Iíd bet even money that at least 33% of US citizens could not correctly name 5 presidents without any prompting.

And Iíd go even money that at least 40% of US citizens could name even 3 vice presidents without prompts.
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Re: a biden presidency

Trump put the brakes on the neocon war machine. Will Biden's owners re-energize the killing machinery ?


Did you ever ask yourself "Who does own Biden, anyway?"


Never forget that Hillary was the war machine's candidate. (she wasnt supposed to lose)
Maybe Joe has a position in mind for her....??


Totalitarian Dictator To Leave Office After Losing Election: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix

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A dangerous faction of American extremists has been greatly emboldened by the election of Joe Biden, and they’ll soon begin calling for widespread organized violence and bloodshed as their fascistic ideology rises to power. I am speaking, of course, of mass media pundits.

Trump’s presidency emboldened white supremacists and other crazies. Biden’s presidency will embolden the elitist commentariat whose job is to call you a naive little child if you don’t think it’s good to brandish armageddon weapons and murder foreigners for crude oil.



America’s election integrity ranks dead last among western democracies. Nothing has ever been done to fix this, so there’s no valid basis upon which to simply dismiss concerns about their validity. Yelling “conspiracy theory” is not an argument.

That said, the entire process by which Donald Trump and Joe Biden became the candidates Americans were given to choose from is also corrupt and rigged to its core, so I see no reason to get super fixated on the general election being rigged as well. It’s fake from top to bottom.



There is no legitimate reason why Biden should not be grilled in every single press conference for specific details on how he plans to fulfill his promise to end the war in Yemen. If the US had an honest and responsible news media, that is exactly what would happen.


No Biden is not going to enslave you to communism, you idiots. He’s going to enslave you to end-stage imperialist neoliberalism like everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Totalitarian Dictator To Leave Office After Losing Election: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/11...rative-matrix/

Trump put the brakes on the neocon war machine. Will it roar back into life?

I quote myself.

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Totalitarian Dictator To Leave Office After Losing Election: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix


Trump put the brakes on the neocon war machine. Will Biden's owners re-energize the killing machinery ?
Never forget that Hillary was the war machine's candidate. Maybe Joe has a position in mind for her....??


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/11...rative-matrix/
Koo Koo for Cocoa Puffs! That is nuttier than a bowel movent after an Almond Rica.

Hillary's war machine? Get real. That is the most stupid claim you could possibly make.
Hillary was NEVER the President. She never waged war on anyone. And it is Trump who has bragged about rebuilding the military. Your posts are like Trump's tweets. Totally devoid of truth.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Trump put the brakes on the neocon war machine. Will Biden's owners re-energize the killing machinery ?
You're just funny Bubba.



"Trump Says 'No Problem' Selling F-35 Jets to UAE, Despite Netanyahu's Denial"
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trum...-uae-1.9157792

"Trump uses veto to unblock $8bn weapons sale to Saudi Arabia"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49106989

"Israel Seeks $8B Arms Deal At White House: F-35s, V-22s, KC-46s"
https://breakingdefense.com/2020/09/...-v-22s-kc-46s/

"Donald Trump really seems to like hypersonic missiles"
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ce-their-name/
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Koo Koo for Cocoa Puffs! That is nuttier than a bowel movent after an Almond Rica.

Hillary's war machine? Get real. That is the most stupid claim you could possibly make.
Hillary was NEVER the President. She never waged war on anyone. And it is Trump who has bragged about rebuilding the military. Your posts are like Trump's tweets. Totally devoid of truth.


Your mistake: The post did not say "Hillary's war machine".


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Trump put the brakes on the neocon war machine. Will Biden's owners re-energize the killing machinery ?

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Who owns Biden??

Never forget that Hillary was the war machine's candidate. Maybe Joe has a position in mind for her....??


Obama continued the wars of Bill Clinton and W Bush. Who did they work for?? Obama set the record for drone attacks.

Hillary supported continuing the neocons wars. There is a lot of money to be made in managing the killing of young soldiers of all races, and innocent mideastern civilians.

Did you even notice that Trump did not pick up where they left off making wars??

Did your sources tell you Trump was nominated for the peace prize two or three times??

Do you think the wars will be restarted under Obama's vice Biden.??

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AFAIK, the 2022 Senate Map looks pretty good for Democrats, better than this year.
That means that Biden's lame duck half of the Presidency might be the first two, not the last two years.

This might work out very well, giving everyone to agree on legislation that can be passed quickly in Jan 2023.
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Did you even notice that Trump did not pick up where they left off making wars??
Hey Bubba? Name one war Trump ended? You can't can you?



"Where are the Troops? The US still has troops in Syria, Iraq, Cuba, and Afghanistan. Trump has not ended any wars or completely removed US troops from any country in the Mideast. "
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/e...-start-and-end
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Your mistake: The post did not say "Hillary's war machine".

Obama continued the wars of Bill Clinton and W Bush. Who did they work for?? Obama set the record for drone attacks.

Hillary supported continuing the neocons wars. There is a lot of money to be made in managing the killing of young soldiers of all races, and innocent mideastern civilians.

Did you even notice that Trump did not pick up where they left off making wars??

Did your sources tell you Trump was nominated two or three time for the peace prize??

Do you think the wars will be restarted under Obama's vice Biden.??
The war machine's candidate? Instead we pulled out and let thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of allies get slaughtered? We allowed Erdogan and Assad kill thousands. Trump never said a word after Saudi Arabia lured a Washington Post reporter to their embassy in Turkey where they cut him into pieces.
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Trump's foreign-directed incoherent troop withdrawals only make certain that more future intervention will be required for the stability of the world.
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Trump broke Obamaís drone strike record and wrote an EO so they donít need to report or evaluate civilian deaths. Sold billions in weapons to the Saudis, and used those arms sales as a pretense to avoid sanctioning the Saudis for the murder of a critical journalist. Abandoned the Kurds when they were of no more use.

Soon we can stop this clown show.
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Fellow Biden voters: What sort of executive actions would you like to see in the first week or so?
Not a Biden voter, obviously, but this seems like a good start:

Bidenís planned executive actions include:

- Rejoin Paris climate accord
- Reverse Muslim ban
- Reinstate DACA
- Reverse Trump rollback of ~100 Obama health/environmental rules

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...dc2_story.html
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First thing Biden must do: stop Daily Briefings to go out to Trump (past Presidents still get a version).
The security leak must be plugged.
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Old 8th November 2020, 05:23 AM   #72
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Won't happen. The Republicans are a unified force because they have no standards while the Democrats are already starting to form the "Liberal/Progressive" battle lines and will start eating each other alive as soon as the high of this win wears off.

The Republicans can get a man who bangs porn starts and Evangelicals under the same tent easier then the Democrats can get "We want to wheel out the guillotine and behead the rich all the time" and "We want to wheel out the guillotine and behead the rich 99% of the time" under the same tent.

Having no standards is morally horrible, but it means that the Republicans aren't running cause purity test on their own potential allies to anywhere near the degree the Left is.
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Old 8th November 2020, 06:00 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
Fellow Biden voters: What sort of executive actions would you like to see in the first week or so?
Executive orders cancelling most of Trumpís executive orders. Examples include the Trump EO issued on October 21 that reclassified thousands of civil service positions as political appointments. Trumps executive orders regarding DACA. The orders diverting funds to build the Mexican Wall.
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Old 8th November 2020, 06:07 AM   #74
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
When Obama took office Mitch McConnell said the sole function of his US Senate would be to make him a one-term president. You can't get much more obvious than that.
While I don't expect McConnell to be co-operative I also don't think the opposition will be quite as visceral since Biden is of the 'Caucasian persuasion'.
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While I don't expect McConnell to be co-operative I also don't think the opposition will be quite as visceral since Biden is of the 'Caucasian persuasion'.
Nah, while Obama's skin color was major contribution to obstructionism back then, I expect this time they will obstruct any Democrat POTUS. How progressive of them.
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It's 2023. SCOTUS has lost 2 members by attrition, and none have been replaced. Not that it hasn't been tried, but McConnell is still kicking. The conservative/liberal ratio is unchanged and stock prices of coat hanger manufacturers is up.
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Old 8th November 2020, 06:37 AM   #77
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Originally Posted by dirtywick View Post
Trump broke Obamaís drone strike record and wrote an EO so they donít need to report or evaluate civilian deaths. Sold billions in weapons to the Saudis, and used those arms sales as a pretense to avoid sanctioning the Saudis for the murder of a critical journalist. Abandoned the Kurds when they were of no more use.

Soon we can stop this clown show.
Trump also pulled several military stunts to get his 'Killing Osama' moment. They were either a disaster or of little meaning

1) An attack by Special Forces in Yemen that his own advisers cautioned against and resulted in civilian casualties for little benefit.

2) The killing of an ISIS leader that Trump brayed about for days but was ultimately of little consequence due to ISIS's leadership structure.

3) His recent braying of saving some Americans from terrorists in Africa who ended up being little more than bandits.

His early extra push on ISIS was successful but when Mattis got more credit that he did suddenly Mattis was 'pretty much a Democrat' and Trump pushed him out.
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
Trump also pulled several military stunts to get his 'Killing Osama' moment. They were either a disaster or of little meaning

1) An attack by Special Forces in Yemen that his own advisers cautioned against and resulted in civilian casualties for little benefit.

2) The killing of an ISIS leader that Trump brayed about for days but was ultimately of little consequence due to ISIS's leadership structure.

3) His recent braying of saving some Americans from terrorists in Africa who ended up being little more than bandits.

His early extra push on ISIS was successful but when Mattis got more credit that he did suddenly Mattis was 'pretty much a Democrat' and Trump pushed him out.

You forgot 4) Missile strike against an Iranian general on allied soil, that seriously damaged relations with that ally, and which put Iran on a heightened war footing, which escalation lead pretty much directly to the accidental shooting down of a civilian airliner, with the loss of all on board.
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You forgot 4) Missile strike against an Iranian general on allied soil, that seriously damaged relations with that ally, and which put Iran on a heightened war footing, which escalation lead pretty much directly to the accidental shooting down of a civilian airliner, with the loss of all on board.
And remember, the escalation included a missile attack on an American base where Trump claimed "no casualties"... When people pointed out potential head injuries, trump was dismissive, reminding people that trump doesn't really care about soldiers.

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
Trump also pulled several military stunts to get his 'Killing Osama' moment. They were either a disaster or of little meaning

1) An attack by Special Forces in Yemen that his own advisers cautioned against and resulted in civilian casualties for little benefit.

2) The killing of an ISIS leader that Trump brayed about for days but was ultimately of little consequence due to ISIS's leadership structure.

3) His recent braying of saving some Americans from terrorists in Africa who ended up being little more than bandits.

His early extra push on ISIS was successful but when Mattis got more credit that he did suddenly Mattis was 'pretty much a Democrat' and Trump pushed him out.
Also remember that one of the first things he did was unleash the MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) just to show that he could make a bigger blast than anyone else. Never mind what the target was.
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