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View Poll Results: When will Trump concede or else become incapable of concession?
Before 11-Nov 1 1.72%
Before 30-Nov 2 3.45%
Before 31-Dec 4 6.90%
Before 20-Jan 8 13.79%
Before 2022. 2 3.45%
2023 0 0%
2024 0 0%
2025 or thereafter 41 70.69%
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Old 10th November 2020, 10:11 AM   #41
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Trump is only President because he got sworn in.

Nothing in his election or his Administration or his words and actions suggests that he is anything like a President.
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Old 10th November 2020, 11:42 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Mader Levap View Post
You seem to not understand how OR works.
I was going to say precisely the same to you, oddly enough.

Here is the relevant wiki entry. Notice that if either p or q is true, the entire statement "p ∨ q" resolves to true as well. In this case, if Trump concedes the race or if he cannot possibly concede (e.g. irreversible coma) then the statement will resolve to true.
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Old 10th November 2020, 01:15 PM   #43
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Sam Harris wraps it up quite well when he lists Trumps attributes as being an ignoramus, consumed by greed, narcissism, malice, pettiness, and a bully.

The attributes he is lacking being: wisdom, curiosity, discipline, courage, and compassion. In the wake of the election it is starkly evident that another attribute is lacking ....... honour.
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Old 10th November 2020, 01:38 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by Tero View Post
But he will go on tour in 2024 for the Ivanka for President campaign. Then they will uncover all the fraud in 2020 as well as 2016. Because trump won fair and square in 2016, even the popular vote.
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If Trump hasn't conceded by 2024, does that make him ineligible to seek another term because he was the real President all along?

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I was wondering that myself. Let's say, just after the deadline for nominating Trump as the candidate in 2024, the Dems come out and admit the "fraud", with sufficient evidence to support their admission.

The 22nd amendment says "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,"

Nothing there about actually being sworn in, or serving.

Of course, they could argue that the real election is the Electoral College vote, but it would certainly be hilarious watching them fall all over themselves arguing about this.
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Old 10th November 2020, 03:16 PM   #45
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I think he will go to his grave declaring that he won and that the Presidency was stolen from him.
Yes. This is how Trump has lived his whole life. He loves being the guy who was wronged. Much like Hitler
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Old 10th November 2020, 03:40 PM   #46
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he won'thave to if he seizes power in a coup d'etat.
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Old 10th November 2020, 03:45 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
he won't have to if he seizes power in a coup d'etat.
That appears to be the plan.

https://twitter.com/nwadhams/status/1326226247555428357
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Old 10th November 2020, 04:09 PM   #48
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For those of you wondering why I phrased the OP question as a disjunctive, I've got a bet going by which I'm honor bound to remove this sign on the day when Trump concedes or else (necessary backup condition) he becomes incapable of doing so.



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Old 10th November 2020, 04:22 PM   #49
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I expect that Trump will leave the White House come 1200 noon on 20 JAN 2021.

However, I do not expect that Trump will ever concede the election.
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Old 10th November 2020, 06:00 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
For those of you wondering why I phrased the OP question as a disjunctive, I've got a bet going by which I'm honor bound to remove this sign on the day when Trump concedes or else (necessary backup condition) he becomes incapable of doing so.



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Ah, that helps.

So is the bet: until he concedes or until a physical or mental illness (other than the Narcissitic Personality Disorder) prevents him from communicating?

I hate trying to split hairs, but I firmly believe his personality prevents him from even considering conceding. So when I read the original polll, I don’t know if should I put down now or put down never?
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Old 10th November 2020, 06:20 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
I was wondering that myself. Let's say, just after the deadline for nominating Trump as the candidate in 2024, the Dems come out and admit the "fraud", with sufficient evidence to support their admission.

The 22nd amendment says "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,"

Nothing there about actually being sworn in, or serving.

Of course, they could argue that the real election is the Electoral College vote, but it would certainly be hilarious watching them fall all over themselves arguing about this.

You underestimate the amount of crazy involved.
The GOP could say “what a coincidence, We cheated in 2016 and this 2024 election is his second.” Of course, if the goal is to guarantee that hilarity ensues, then put a camera on Trump when you tell him that the official GOP position is that Hillary won the 2016 election.
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Old 10th November 2020, 07:07 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I hate trying to split hairs, but I firmly believe his personality prevents him from even considering conceding. So when I read the original polll, I don’t know if should I put down now or put down never?
This is the sort of hair-splitting which I personally encourage, if only because it helps us wrap our heads around the relationship between physical determinism and moral accountability.
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Old 11th November 2020, 02:32 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I hate trying to split hairs, but I firmly believe his personality prevents him from even considering conceding. So when I read the original polll, I don’t know if should I put down now or put down never?
As I said upthread, I considered exactly that question and put down now.

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Concession watch:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...78710809661440

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...79630477922304
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Concession watch part deux:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08856733184008
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