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Old 13th February 2019, 01:07 AM   #1
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First Black Leopard Sighting in Africa in Over a Century

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/a...her/index.html


This is pretty terrific stuff. My son's a cat-nut and will go crazy when he sees this later.

Anyone got any better pictures? Or is this a single still from the gamecam.

ETA: Note to cryptozoologists and 'footers. When we say we need a clear pic, this is what is meant!
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Old 13th February 2019, 01:15 AM   #2
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To be pedantic for a second, this is the first photo for a century, but not the first sighting. I spoke to someone in Malawi who had seen one, for instance. It is thought that there are or have been melanistic examples of every type of mammal on the planet, so this doesn't come as a surprise.

Here are some more photos.
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
To be pedantic for a second, this is the first photo for a century, but not the first sighting. I spoke to someone in Malawi who had seen one, for instance. It is thought that there are or have been melanistic examples of every type of mammal on the planet, so this doesn't come as a surprise.

Here are some more photos.
Yeah, I couldn't squeeze all of that into a thread title so I went with "sighting". Thanks for the pics. The shots are equally excellent.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:45 AM   #4
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This just in from a mate of mine in South Africa, after I alerted him to this series of photos:

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melanistic leopards seem to be a Kenyan highlands phenomenon - I’ve seen one in the Aberdares, and there have been sightings on Mount Kenya. I’d heard about this one on the Laikipia, but didn’t know that Will was up there (he works with Michael Lorentz)........

When I was a kid (about 16) we saw an albino leopard while winter climbing in the snow in the Cederberg, just north of Cape Town.........
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Interesting that CNN changed its teaser header on the home page from "black leopard" to "black panther". Hoping for the Marvel clicks? The article still has the headline using "black leopard".
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If anyone is interested in a proper in depth account of this, here is a good article on Safarious, one of the people for whom the photographer works. My correspondent, quoted previously, also works for Safarious. It's well worth reading because not only does it have great photos, it also has some behind-the-scenes footage of how the photos were obtained.

BTW, the website of Will Burrard-Lucas, the photographer, seems to be unable to cope with the extra traffic which seems to be heading his way. I've been trying all day.
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This is a great story. I'm confused about something...

Originally Posted by CNN
Pilfold said they captured the footage after months of watching and waiting. His team of biologists had placed remote cameras to track the leopard population near a conservancy area in Laikipia County last year when they heard reports of a possible black leopard sighting.

"We intensified our camera placement in the area the reports were being made," he said Tuesday night. "Within a few months, we were rewarded with multiple observations on our cameras."

Originally Posted by The Guardian
After several days without success Burrard-Lucas returned to his cameras to find a striking image.
Was it months or days to get pictures?
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What is going on with this photograph? It's as if I can see through the leopard.

https://safarious-prod.s3.amazonaws....-leopard-4.jpg
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Interesting that CNN changed its teaser header on the home page from "black leopard" to "black panther". Hoping for the Marvel clicks? The article still has the headline using "black leopard".
To be fair, the definition of panther is "a leopard, especially a black one."
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Old 13th February 2019, 10:39 AM   #10
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To be fair, the definition of panther is "a leopard, especially a black one."
Then what's a jaguar? And is there any difference between a puma, a cougar, and a mountain lion? There are too many interchangeable murder machines roaming the wilds, waiting to literally pounce!
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
What is going on with this photograph? It's as if I can see through the leopard.

https://safarious-prod.s3.amazonaws....-leopard-4.jpg
It's a flash from the side, remote from the camera.......and it's your eyes playing tricks on you.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Then what's a jaguar?
Central and Southern American cat. Superficially somewhat like a leopard, but not a leopard.


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is there any difference between a puma, a cougar, and a mountain lion?......
Same animals (and its variants/ sub-species) but with different names in different parts of the country.
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Originally Posted by Hellbound View Post
To be fair, the definition of panther is "a leopard, especially a black one."
To be stricter, rather than fairer, Panthera is the genus that contains all of the main big cats...........lions, tigers, leopards, pumas, jaguars, and so on.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
This is a great story. I'm confused about something...






Was it months or days to get pictures?
Who would you believe....CNN, or the cameraman who actually obtained the photos? It's there in his own words on the Safarious website I linked to earlier.

Laikipia is a private reserve, not a county. Whoever rushed that story out for CNN got a whole heap of stuff wrong.
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To be stricter, rather than fairer, Panthera is the genus that contains all of the main big cats...........lions, tigers, leopards, pumas, jaguars, and so on.
Pumas aren't part of the Panthera genus. I believe their genus is Puma.
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Pumas aren't part of the Panthera genus. I believe their genus is Puma.
Yes, but they are part of the sub-family Felinae, just like the one who is sitting behind me yowling about something. Leopards are in Pantherinae.
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Then what's a jaguar? And is there any difference between a puma, a cougar, and a mountain lion? There are too many interchangeable murder machines roaming the wilds, waiting to literally pounce!

I only ever saw one cougar, and she was wearing leopard skin, drinking in a bar of dubious reputation. The locals warned me to stay away as she was dangerous.
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The panther is like a leopard,
Except it hasn't been peppered.
Should you behold a panther crouch,
Prepare to say Ouch.
Better yet, if called by a panther,
Don't anther.

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To be stricter, rather than fairer, Panthera is the genus that contains all of the main big cats...........lions, tigers, leopards, pumas, jaguars, and so on.
Common versus Scientific definition
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Originally Posted by Hellbound View Post
Common versus Scientific definition
Yep. I was wrong to include Puma in the list.
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Yep. I was wrong to include Puma in the list.
That's alright. You can report to the stake for burning tomorrow at your convenience
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Originally Posted by gerdbonk View Post
The panther is like a leopard,

Except it hasn't been peppered.

Should you behold a panther crouch,

Prepare to say Ouch.

Better yet, if called by a panther,

Don't anther.



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Yep. I was wrong to include Puma in the list.
It's just one of those things that's stuck in my tiny little brain. I know that pumas, while they are large cats, are not considered "big cats" when that term is used to refer specifically to Panthera.
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That's alright. You can report to the stake for burning tomorrow at your convenience
I'm overcome with gratitude, and, as always, in awe of your benevolence.
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Pumas aren't part of the Panthera genus. I believe their genus is Puma.
Cheetahs too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetah#Taxonomy
And a cat that has short legs, an elongated body, and a long tail that they call jaguar around 'ere.


An actual Jaguar is also not part of the Panthera genus.

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If a Puma isn't a Panther then what's an Adidas?
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If a Puma isn't a Panther then what's an Adidas?
Puma and Adidas were founded by brothers, neither of whom was a panther, or any other sort of cat.
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Puma and Adidas were founded by brothers, neither of whom was a panther, or any other sort of cat.
They were quite catty towards and about each other.
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Was Ogden half vogon?
I won't dignify that with an anther.
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To be fair, the definition of panther is "a leopard, especially a black one."
Yes, I know that. The article (all articles) refer to a "black leopard". Leopards are sometimes called panthers. And it's just a coincidence that one of the largest money-making films in history is "The Black Panther".

The people who write the teasers on the home page for CNN often write catchy click-bait phrases. I'm pretty sure this was intentional. I have a kid and the first thing I did was to check that my memory was correct and that leopards and panthers are the same thing so I could tell him that they got the first photo of Black Panther in the wild. I was joking with him but I had expected one of the news sites to jump on it earlier. Someone looked at the lead and said "wouldn't it be cool if it was a black panther" and someone else pointed out that they're the same thing, so home page editor said "cool!".
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black Pumas are also often called panthers.
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black Pumas are also often called panthers.
They are also often called myths or legends.

It depends on which side of cryptozoology you walk on.
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What is going on with this photograph? It's as if I can see through the leopard.

https://safarious-prod.s3.amazonaws....-leopard-4.jpg
There's a bushy branch in front of its hindquarters.

Guess we're looking at different things.
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Panthers Jaguars, cougars and pumas don't have spots. The leopard in the images has spots even though it's black over them.

Other differences besides home range I don't know but someone can look it up.

And what do I know, apparently not enough.
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To be stricter, rather than fairer, Panthera is the genus that contains all of the main big cats...........lions, tigers, leopards, pumas, jaguars, and so on.
Not that one, Puma concolor is its own genus and is actually the largest of the small cats.

Panthera is the Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard and Jaguar along with several extinct species.
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Cheetahs too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetah#Taxonomy
And a cat that has short legs, an elongated body, and a long tail that they call jaguar around 'ere.


An actual Jaguar is also not part of the Panthera genus.
Incorrect.



And sorry for repeating what had already been corrected Mike, I should have kept reading.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Panthers Jaguars, cougars and pumas don't have spots. The leopard in the images has spots even though it's black over them.

Other differences besides home range I don't know but someone can look it up.

And what do I know, apparently not enough.
I believe you meant "Mountain Lions, Cougars and Pumas don't have spots". Jaguars assuredly do.
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Old 13th February 2019, 10:25 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Damien Evans View Post
Incorrect.



And sorry for repeating what had already been corrected Mike, I should have kept reading.
Yes, a "not" got into my sentence quite by accident I can assure you.
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Originally Posted by Hellbound View Post
To be fair, the definition of panther is "a leopard, especially a black one."
Isn't that a jaguar? I thought that Panther derived from Pantera...generic name for big cats?
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It's almost as if our distant ancestors didn't have as robust a knowledge of taxonomy as 21st century science does.
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