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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2017 French presidential election?
Nathalie Arthaud* 0 0%
François Asselineau* 0 0%
Jacques Cheminade* 0 0%
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 0 0%
François Fillon 2 6.45%
Benoît Hamon 0 0%
Jean Lassalle 0 0%
Marine Le Pen 7 22.58%
Emmanuel Macron* 16 51.61%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon* 0 0%
Philippe Poutou* 0 0%
On planet X, Trump wins all elections 6 19.35%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Today, 11:11 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
First results in line with polls: Macron and Le Pen in second round.
I'll add a linky which will likely follow this up:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39686993

Phew?

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Old Today, 11:14 AM   #162
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Phew indeed.
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Old Today, 11:20 AM   #163
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What are her chances in the 2nd round?
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Old Today, 11:47 AM   #164
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I would say none, but you never know. I can not exclude that some of major figures of "la droite la plus bête du monde" do not take position on who to vote during the second round or could even recommend to vote Le Pen.

Furthermore I really doubt Mélenchon will ask his supporters to vote for Macron. All this could make the second round more tricky than expected.
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Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
What are her chances in the 2nd round?
She should sufficiently scare everybody sane to vote in 2nd round against her.
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Old Today, 12:03 PM   #166
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Yes, she should... However cartesianism is of French origin the French voters are not always fully rational.

Well, taking into account what happened during the last months in the UK and in the US I think one can say that voters in general, and not only French ones, are not fully rational.

However if a huge terror Attack would happen in France between now and the election day, which nobody wants to happen, this could help Le Pen.

Assuming that Macron becomes President, which is the most likely, the question which arises is to know what kind of parlementary majority he will have and who will be i his government.

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Originally Posted by Aepervius View Post
Good. Macro as a centrist has a chance to rally left and right, at least the reasonable/rational part of both side, and his politics are not far fetched.
Considering how he openly admires Tony Blair, I wouldn't be so sure.
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Old Today, 12:09 PM   #168
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Fillon has just endorsed Macron for the second round. This will make things difficult for Le Pen.
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Originally Posted by NWO Sentryman View Post
Considering how he openly admires Tony Blair, I wouldn't be so sure.
Far better option then any other French got.
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Phew indeed.
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Old Today, 01:13 PM   #171
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
First results in line with polls: Macron and Le Pen in second round.
Wait, the French don't just declare the racist that finished with the second most votes the winner? What a novel system.
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Wait, the French don't just declare the racist that finished with the second most votes the winner? What a novel system.
Don't give them ideas, please.

France 2 just gave a first poll for the second round, done this evening after the first results were announced: Macron gets 62% in that poll.
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Wait, the French don't just declare the racist that finished with the second most votes the winner? What a novel system.
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Old Today, 01:35 PM   #174
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No accents, sorry. The BBC has Melenchon equal with Fillon in 3rd/ 4th. That's a pretty impressive result for the former, and a pretty depressing one for the former favourite.

Here's an idea. Le Pen wins, and the French have a Frexit referendum, in which they vote decisively to leave. This causes the breakup of the EU, but instead of letting the whole shabang come crashing down, the heads of Government cook up a new arrangement which is little more than a large free trade area with no institutions, no membership fees and no subsidies . They do this just before Brexit happens and we (and the French) join the new organisation as full members and everyone lives happily ever after........ Every nightmare has a silver lining.
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No accents, sorry. The BBC has Melenchon equal with Fillon in 3rd/ 4th. That's a pretty impressive result for the former, and a pretty depressing one for the former favourite.

Here's an idea. Le Pen wins, and the French have a Frexit referendum, in which they vote decisively to leave. This causes the breakup of the EU, but instead of letting the whole shabang come crashing down, the heads of Government cook up a new arrangement which is little more than a large free trade area with no institutions, no membership fees and no subsidies . They do this just before Brexit happens and we (and the French) join the new organisation as full members and everyone lives happily ever after........ Every nightmare has a silver lining.
Polling errors exist but Macron leads Le Pen by 26 points in runoff polls. This isn't Clinton up 2-3 on Trump or Remain leading by 1-2.
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Sorry, you thought I was making a prediction?
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
No accents, sorry. The BBC has Melenchon equal with Fillon in 3rd/ 4th. That's a pretty impressive result for the former, and a pretty depressing one for the former favourite.

Here's an idea. Le Pen wins, and the French have a Frexit referendum, in which they vote decisively to leave. This causes the breakup of the EU, but instead of letting the whole shabang come crashing down, the heads of Government cook up a new arrangement which is little more than a large free trade area with no institutions, no membership fees and no subsidies . They do this just before Brexit happens and we (and the French) join the new organisation as full members and everyone lives happily ever after........ Every nightmare has a silver lining.
That's just millimeter better then just nothing. Completely idiotic useless stuff that won't do a thing for anything that matters. Putin, China and USA would likely approve because it would mean they would become top dogs again, everybody else in Europe would just lose, while rolling hundreds of years of progress. (just when things were getting better)

If you want to be third-world poor idiotic nation, just leave and do not drag us there too. Many Thanks.

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