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Old 27th November 2019, 11:36 AM   #1
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Not Gonna Go Out Like A Punk

Miami man, 60, shoots dead AK-47-wielding robber who tried to break into the van where he lives because he didn't want to 'go out like a punk'

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A 60-year-old man fatally shot an armed robber who put an AK-47 in his face while he was asleep in the van where he lives alongside his girlfriend and son.

Donovan Stewart, who was born in Jamaica but now lives in Miami, said he was forced to act after the man broke into his van in the early hours of Monday. Stewart told CBS Miami: 'This guy I killed last night he just push a AK-47 in my ******* face. And as a guy born in Kingston Town I'm not gunna go out like a punk.' Police have said that Stewart, who has several permits to carry concealed weapons, acted in self defense and Florida has stand-your-ground laws which allow citizens to use lethal force against threats to their lives.

Stewart said he was woken up by a loud knock at the door of the van before it was pulled open by a man wielding an assault rifle who demanded his jewelry. Using his training as a security officer, Stewart said he knocked the AK muzzle away from his face, pulled out the Glock he keeps next to where he sleeps and emptied the magazine into the man's chest.

Stewart said he decided to act out of fear for his girlfriend and 11-year-old son, who were sleeping in the van with him. Police were called to the area, in the Little River neighborhood of Miami, and found an unresponsive man suffering from a gunshot wound, WSVN reported. The man, who has not been identified, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Stewart added: 'This man knock on my door while I'm dead asleep... I said all right, this is what's gunna happen now. You're gunna kill me? I'm gunna kill you. Let's see. So, quick thinking, quick reflex, I'm trained. I'm a security officer, I got a [gun] license, I got a concealed weapon license, and I'm a member of the NRA.'

'You don't just wake up in the morning and push an AK-47 up my nose and think you're gunna live. No. They tried the wrong person with that.'

Police said it appears to be a case of self-defense and that all parties are cooperating with the investigation, but that the probe is continuing...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...van-lives.html
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Old 27th November 2019, 11:43 AM   #2
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And the NRA has their new spokesman!
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Old 27th November 2019, 11:51 AM   #3
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Oh, and this must be one of those Florida things that the other 49 states keep under wraps.
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Old 27th November 2019, 11:55 AM   #4
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Wow. Yeah I can’t complain about that as reported. Good for him.

How ****** was the other guy’s life that he was trying to rob people living out of a van?
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Old 27th November 2019, 12:00 PM   #5
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Wow. Yeah I can’t complain about that as reported. Good for him.

How ****** was the other guy’s life that he was trying to rob people living out of a van?
The guy was wearing gold chains and had a Glock. Potentially a quick grand right there.

I'm way more concerned about some dude wandering around the streets with a full sized rifle. Less than discrete, in most states.
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Old 27th November 2019, 12:18 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Lithrael View Post
How ****** was the other guy’s life that he was trying to rob people living out of a van?
This is what happens without a Universal Basic Income (UBI).
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Old 27th November 2019, 12:22 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
This is what happens without a Universal Basic Income (UBI).
Or without legalized pot.
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Old 27th November 2019, 12:46 PM   #8
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"emptied the magazine into the man's chest"

Lol

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Old 27th November 2019, 01:05 PM   #9
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Old 27th November 2019, 02:12 PM   #10
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And the NRA has their new spokesman!
I think the NRA is too racist to allow that. The NRA is more likely to treat Mr. Stewart like they did Philando Castile.

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Old 27th November 2019, 02:30 PM   #11
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I think the NRA is too racist to allow that. The NRA is more likely to treat Mr. Stewart like they did Philando Castile.

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True. I also hope that when Stewart unloaded his mag, there was only one round in it, or else finding the robber unresponsive with 'a' gunshot wound indicates some pretty poor aim.

I wonder if Florida treats initially self-defense shooting, after the first couple rounds, as murder? Other states have found so.
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Old 27th November 2019, 02:35 PM   #12
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I'm OK with that, the 60 year old man got threatened with a gun so there's nowt wrong with replying with a gun in that situation, good on him for surviving.

I'm against guns and the US is backward with its gun laws imo, but the 60 year old man has to work with the tools that have been handed to him.

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It could just be the Daily Fail, but this:

has several permits to carry concealed weapons

Must be referring to reciprocity carry with states other than Florida, because carry permits are one to a customer everywhere I'm familiar with in the U.S.

A licensed individual usually can have up to three handguns listed on a single permit, and I've never heard of someone being issued more than one license per state.
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I think the NRA is too racist to allow that. The NRA is more likely to treat Mr. Stewart like they did Philando Castile.

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Maybe not - Colion Noir:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colion_Noir
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“All parties are cooperating with the investigation”!?

Impressive!
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Of course he had to shoot him! The guy was already dead! He was a zombie!
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This whole story is a pretty bad indictment on US Society all around.

WTF is a 60-year old with a girlfriend and son having to live in a Van in the first place?

And then there is the whole robber having access to an AK-47 thing.

I'm glad that he was able to survive and protect his family, but with a bit of compassion from the State and some of that hideous socialism thing, the entire incident may have been avoided and the lives of two families wouldn't now be shattered (I say two because I serious doubt that this guy is going to get out of this unscathed mentally. The odds are that he's going to have PTSD in some form for some time to come, and the US Healthcare system isn't going to be helping him there.)
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This whole story is a pretty bad indictment on US Society all around.

WTF is a 60-year old with a girlfriend and son having to live in a Van in the first place?

And then there is the whole robber having access to an AK-47 thing.

I'm glad that he was able to survive and protect his family, but with a bit of compassion from the State and some of that hideous socialism thing, the entire incident may have been avoided and the lives of two families wouldn't now be shattered (I say two because I serious doubt that this guy is going to get out of this unscathed mentally. The odds are that he's going to have PTSD in some form for some time to come, and the US Healthcare system isn't going to be helping him there.)

The guy is from Kingston not some wimp born in the USA. He was probably born with PTSD. After reading his quotes I have a feeling he'll be just fine. He sounds pretty gawdamn fine with what he had to do.
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The guy is from Kingston not some wimp born in the USA. He was probably born with PTSD. After reading his quotes I have a feeling he'll be just fine. He sounds pretty gawdamn fine with what he had to do.
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