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Old 24th March 2017, 06:03 PM   #201
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Eh, the Enquirer may be in Trump's pocket, but that doesn't mean he's behind this story.
Yeah, but he might get his news from it.
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Old 24th March 2017, 06:08 PM   #202
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Originally Posted by TraneWreck View Post
Before I go digging up opinion polls, please let me know what you're looking for. I get the feeling that I'm about to go on a snipe hunt.
Good idea.

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Old 24th March 2017, 06:24 PM   #203
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Originally Posted by LSSBB View Post
Yeah, but he might get his news from it.
Might? Gotta be near top of his list.
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Old 25th March 2017, 07:20 AM   #204
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More unusual goings on from Nunes.

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Hours before the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee announced his shocking claims about surveillance of the*Trump transition team on Wednesday morning, he practically disappeared.

Rep. Devin Nunes was traveling with a senior committee staffer in an Uber on Tuesday evening when he received a communication on his phone, three committee officials and a former national security official with ties to the committee told The Daily Beast. After the message, Nunes left the car abruptly, leaving his own staffer in the dark about his whereabouts.

By the next morning, Nunes hastily announced a press conference. His own aides, up to the most senior level, did not know what their boss planned to say next. Nunes’ choice to keep senior staff out of the loop was highly unusual.
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Old 25th March 2017, 07:28 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
If the White House really was the source of the information, I would expect that to be leaked in the not-too-distant future.

One of the things that President Trump and his closest advisors seem to have failed to grasp is that an unhappy ship is a leaky ship. Their attempts to sideline senior colleagues and administrators will only make this situation worse.
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Old 25th March 2017, 01:26 PM   #206
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
Good idea.

Nice to see you back.
Thanks. I always enjoy this forum. Glad to be back.
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Old 25th March 2017, 01:39 PM   #207
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Trump associates might have been under surveillance for a deal that has nothing to do with Russia - but something to do with Azerbaijan and Iran.

Donald Trump's worst deal

You can't tell this story in 140 characters.

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Hours before the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee announced his shocking claims about surveillance of the Trump transition team on Wednesday morning, he practically disappeared.
Now if he actually disappeared, that would be even more interesting!

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Old 25th March 2017, 01:48 PM   #208
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Another connection surfaces.

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Marc E. Kasowitz is representing OJSC Sberbank of Russia, which is accused in US federal court of conspiring with granite company executives — including Russia’s former minister of economy and trade — in what the plaintiffs say amounts to a “textbook case of Russian corporate raiding.”

Kasowitz has served as an attorney for Trump for more than 15 years. He did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

In 2001, Kasowitz’s firm represented the Trump Organization during a bond restructuring for his Atlantic City casinos. In 2006, he filed a $5 billion defamation lawsuit against the author of a book about Trump. And twice last year, Kasowitz threatened the New York Times after it published three pages of tax returns and a story about women who claim the president sexually assaulted them.

In December, Trump named another partner at Kasowitz’s firm, David Friedman, to serve as the ambassador to Israel. In a contentious vote earlier this month, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved the nomination, which now awaits a full vote in the Senate
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Old 25th March 2017, 06:26 PM   #209
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So Maria Zakharova, Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, gave as presser and uh...

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As I said, such cases in our relations with the US Department of State have become a bad tradition over the past few years. So, I can say in response to your question that we will make the date and format of contacts between the Russian and US foreign ministers public after we coordinate them. We won’t keep them quiet. At this point, I don’t have any information I can share with you. I can say that this visit and such contacts are possible in principle, but it would be premature to talk about timeframes.

Also, I would like to say that if the practice of leaking information that concerns not just the United States but also Russia, which has become a tradition in Washington in the past few years, continues, there will come a day when the media will publish leaks about the things that Washington asked us to keep secret, for example, things that happened during President Obama’s terms in office. Believe me, this could be very interesting information.

Our American colleagues must decide if they respect the diplomatic procedure, if they keep their word on the arrangements made between us, primarily arrangements made at their own request, or we create a few very nice surprises for each other.
That's a curious threat.
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Old 26th March 2017, 05:43 AM   #210
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Yeah, threatening a party who has been openly hostile to Obama with the threat of going public about something bad about Obama? That sounds like enticement, not a threat!
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Old 26th March 2017, 05:46 AM   #211
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Yeah, threatening a party who has been openly hostile to Obama with the threat of going public about something bad about Obama? That sounds like enticement, not a threat!
Equal chance it's BS.
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Old 26th March 2017, 05:49 AM   #212
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Equal chance it's BS.
True, but it does have the effect of making it look like Obama was making secret deals with them, whether or not they go public with anything. It sure is not going to make the folks leaking information (who I assume are mostly/all Republicans) suddenly clam up about anything, though.
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Oops he did it again...

Originally Posted by @realDonaldTrump
Why isn't the House Intelligence Committee looking into the Bill & Hillary deal that allowed big Uranium to go to Russia, Russian speech.... ...money to Bill, the Hillary Russian "reset," praise of Russia by Hillary, or Podesta Russian Company. Trump Russia story is a hoax. #MAGA!



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Oops he did it again...
He must think Americans are stupid, and to that I say, "well played."
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