The Official Alex Jones Thread! - Page 3

carlitos · 23rd February 2017, 08:30 AM

Steven Colbert notes that Alex Jones occasionally advises Donald Trump:

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Degeneve · 24th February 2017, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Steven Colbert notes that Alex Jones occasionally advises Donald Trump:

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This will for sure not improve Trump's decisions...

Firestone · 28th February 2017, 08:54 AM

This may be NSFW: Meet Donald Trump's Propagandist

Quote:

It's afternoon, and Jones is walking through the studio, his adrenaline level high and his blood sugar low. He needs to get something to eat. Platters of BBQ - chicken, beef and sausages - are set out on a table in the conference room. "Good barbecue," says Jones. "You tasted it already?"

He piles up food onto a plastic plate, and then he suddenly takes off his shirt without explanation. With his bare torso, he sits there and shovels meat into his mouth, a caricature of manliness, but also a show of power to the reporter sitting in front of him. He can do as he pleases.

threadworm · 28th February 2017, 09:35 AM

He's obviously taking a leaf out of Putin's book, without the whole sitting on horses and pretending you have a black belt thing.

Civet · 7th March 2017, 08:40 PM

Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking:

https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/

He's really stayed loyal to Trump.

Puppycow · 7th March 2017, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Civet

Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking:

https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/

He's really stayed loyal to Trump.

Article by Jerome Corsi (I remember he was one of the big Birthers), but yeah.

Quote:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Wikileaks “Vault 7” drop of CIA cyber-warfare documents contains the startling revelation that the CIA, under a project identified as “Umbrage,” maintained a substantial library of Russian cyber-attack techniques “stolen” from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.

This revelation yields a “through the looking glass” possibility that the Obama administration obtained FISA permission to conduct electronic surveillance on Russians believed to be coordinating with the Trump campaign based on intelligence the CIA planted to deceive the NSA into thinking there was actual contact between Russian agents and the Trump campaign.

Possibly, what the CIA was monitoring was not actual contacts between Russian agents and the Trump campaign, but CIA-created counter-espionage designed to implicate Trump and provide the legal context for the DOJ to have enough “evidence” to obtain a FISA green-light.

Well, of course they would maintain a substantial library of Russian cyber-attack techniques obtained from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation. That's their job. That's not to say they used them. Just like if they found blueprints for enemy weapons systems, they would keep those too, to analyze their capabilities, develop countermeasures, and for future reference.

Praktik · 8th March 2017, 11:51 AM

Corsi is an odious man.

BStrong · 8th March 2017, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Praktik

Corsi is an odious man.

To the tenth power.

tinribmancer · 29th March 2017, 04:58 AM

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I think I lost some braincells after watching that last one...

Why people think he's some sort of a Messiah, is beyond me.

And, I just saw this:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user...exjoneschannel

When I found his channel for the first time at the end of 2015, he had around 2.5 mil. sub, now he has a bit above 2 mil. Have they finally realized he's a con-artist? Or do those that unsubbed him also think (like kyoon) that he's a CIA Agent...?

tinribmancer · 29th March 2017, 08:10 AM

http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html

Has Jones said anything else about this? Would be funny if he actually had ties.

dudalb · 29th March 2017, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Civet

Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking:

https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/

He's really stayed loyal to Trump.

He has also been on the payroll of "Russia Today" as an "expert" on American Politics.
IMHO it's a case that Alex's fanbase still likes Trump. When they eventually begin to be disillusioned then Alex will break with Trump.

Civet · 29th March 2017, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

He has also been on the payroll of "Russia Today" as an "expert" on American Politics.
IMHO it's a case that Alex's fanbase still likes Trump. When they eventually begin to be disillusioned then Alex will break with Trump.

I'm incredibly interested in seeing how that scenario plays out. I have no doubt that Jones would bail on Trump if he thought it served him to do so, but I do wonder how he'd spin it. Jones isn't one to admit that he's been duped or that he misread a situation.

Civet · 6th April 2017, 06:44 PM

Jones is criticizing Trump now. Still making excuses for him and praising his character, but definitely criticizing him.

https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-at...ussia-respond/

dudalb · 6th April 2017, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Civet

Jones is criticizing Trump now. Still making excuses for him and praising his character, but definitely criticizing him.

https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-at...ussia-respond/

It's the first crack..and a big one...in the wall.
With the downgrading of Bannon, it looks as if Trump had decided that the alt right crowd has become a poltical liabllity. I think that Jones is readying his Plan B..."TRUMP HAS SOLD US DOWN THE RIVER"!

dudalb · 6th April 2017, 09:45 PM

Fact is, supporting somebody in the White House is simply unnatural and out of character for Jones;he must feel really weird doing it.

Stacko · 16th April 2017, 04:22 PM

Alex Jones' lawyers argue he's a performance artist.

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At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.”

“He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.”

But in emotional testimony at the hearing, Kelly Jones, who is seeking to gain sole or joint custody of her three children with Alex Jones, portrayed the volcanic public figure as the real Alex Jones.

“He’s not a stable person,” she said of the man with whom her 14-year-old son and 9- and 12-year-old daughters have lived since her 2015 divorce. “He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin’s neck. He wants J-Lo to get raped.

Puppycow · 16th April 2017, 07:28 PM

A ******** artist is more like it. Batman is explicitly fiction. Jones claims to be a truth-telling reporter.

It wouldn't surprise me though if the man is pretty unstable IRL too, not just on his show.

Crazy Chainsaw · 17th April 2017, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

A ******** artist is more like it. Batman is explicitly fiction. Jones claims to be a truth-telling reporter.

It wouldn't surprise me though if the man is pretty unstable IRL too, not just on his show.

He isn't a performance artist, he is a BS artist only a bad BS artist, his BS. Won't even make wild roses grow.

How anyone could elect a President that listens to him, is beyond comprehension.

Skeptic Ginger · 17th April 2017, 01:02 PM

Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake.

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Spreading Fake ‘Pizzagate’ Story

That was the CT Mike Flynn's son bought into and sadly some mentally ill person took seriously enough to shoot a rifle into the restaurant.

And of course there is the fact that Trump went on Jone's show.

Quote:

The radio host has endorsed several conspiracy theories, including claims that former President Barack Obama illegally wiretapped Donald Trump, that the U.S. government carried out the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and that the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School was a hoax.

All of those CTs Trump repeated.

Brainster · 17th April 2017, 01:22 PM

I think his wife would have more success if she brought up the things Alex Jones' followers have done, as an example of what a terrible influence he is. I mean, when he says he wants to break Alec Baldwin's neck, get in the back of the line (which stretches back to Terre Haute).

Skeptical Phil · 17th April 2017, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw

He isn't a performance artist, he is a BS artist only a bad BS artist, his BS. Won't even make wild roses grow.

How anyone could elect a President that listens to him, is beyond comprehension.

Jones only goal is money...Thing is a lot of people buy into the BS..

Foster Zygote · 17th April 2017, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptical Phil

Jones only goal is money...Thing is a lot of people buy into the BS..

Jones is like Bart Sibrel or any other conspiracy peddler in that he's figured out that you can make money lying to people who think they're too smart to be lied to.

Brass · 17th April 2017, 08:44 PM

Quote:

“He’s not a stable person,” she said

We've been saying this for years, yo.

Cosmic Yak · 18th April 2017, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake.

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Spreading Fake ‘Pizzagate’ Story

I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true.

Foster Zygote · 18th April 2017, 06:32 AM

It will be interesting to see how people with 'Infowars' stickers on their cars react to this. I'd like to think that some will realize they've been had, but it seems more likely that the majority will claim that Jones has sold out to the Illuminati or whatnot, and continue to believe the same paranoid crap because they can't have a worldview that doesn't revolve around them being among the few who are too smart to be fooled.

dudalb · 18th April 2017, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Foster Zygote

It will be interesting to see how people with 'Infowars' stickers on their cars react to this. I'd like to think that some will realize they've been had, but it seems more likely that the majority will claim that Jones has sold out to the Illuminati or whatnot, and continue to believe the same paranoid crap because they can't have a worldview that doesn't revolve around them being among the few who are too smart to be fooled.

I agree, but conspiracy kooks are a long way from being the only people who get scammed largely because they think they are too smart to be scammed. Quite a few people who consider themselves to be "Skeptics" have fallen victim to a scam because they think they are too smart to fall for a con.
In the end scams depend on appealing to emotions,,although they might well make a show of "facts" in selling the con. And skeptics have emotions as much as anybody else,and are therefore vulnerable to the right buttons being pushed.
I call it the "Mr.Spock" syndrome;people think they are too rational a la Mr.Spock to fall of a scam. They are setting themselves up ,of course to get conned.

Skeptic Ginger · 18th April 2017, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true.

I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers.

Cosmic Yak · 19th April 2017, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers.

Sorry to sound nitpicky, but you are now speculating ahead of the facts. Unless he has already said, for the record, that he knows all the CTs he broadcasts about are fake, you cannot say that he has admitted he knows they are fake. It is entirely possible that this admission may come to light in the future, but, as of right now, we just don't know that.

Oystein · 19th April 2017, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Alex Jones' lawyers argue he's a performance artist.

Trevor Noah picks this up and wonders if Jones's fan Trump may be a performance artist, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIUaRgwJshE

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Skeptic Ginger · 19th April 2017, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

Sorry to sound nitpicky, but you are now speculating ahead of the facts. Unless he has already said, for the record, that he knows all the CTs he broadcasts about are fake, you cannot say that he has admitted he knows they are fake. It is entirely possible that this admission may come to light in the future, but, as of right now, we just don't know that.

I'm not speculating anything. I've not drawn a conclusion except that the guy is scum either way.

beachnut · 19th April 2017, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Trevor Noah picks this up and wonders if Jones's fan Trump may be a performance artist, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIUaRgwJshE

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Thank you, I was about to post that... cc.com is not re-streaming for me, wanted to see 18th show; worked yesterday, not today. Maybe Trump is hacking cc.com, and forgot about youtube. Most likely not working for me.

Mark F · 19th April 2017, 01:33 PM

Apparently, Alex Jones is a narcissist.

I know what you're thinking - who knew, right?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...source=copyurl

dudalb · 19th April 2017, 02:52 PM

A definent cutting back of the Pro Trump stories on Infowars. A few are still there, but the nonstop praise of Trump has really been dialed back.

Cosmic Yak · 20th April 2017, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I'm not speculating anything. I've not drawn a conclusion except that the guy is scum either way.

That's not what you said. This is what you said:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake.

Jones has not admitted that, you just said he did without any evidence. When I pointed that out, you said this:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers.

In other words, you are unwilling to admit that you made a mistake, and are speculating that evidence that backs up your assertion will be forthcoming in the future.
That doesn't work for Paul Bethke, and neither will it work for you.

You seem intent on inflating a nit-pick into a fully-fledged argument, and I really don't see the need for that. You made a mistake: everyone does, so just acknowledge it and move on.

TraneWreck · 20th April 2017, 08:57 AM

Colbert is killing the custody story:

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ponderingturtle · 20th April 2017, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

A definent cutting back of the Pro Trump stories on Infowars. A few are still there, but the nonstop praise of Trump has really been dialed back.

Of course, how can you peddle government conspiracies when the president is a fan and you support him? It gets a bit more difficult.

TraneWreck · 20th April 2017, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Of course, how can you peddle government conspiracies when the president is a fan and you support him? It gets a bit more difficult.

From the little I heard, it didn't even break Jones' stride. He went right in on the Deep State getting to Trump.

HSienzant · 20th April 2017, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true.

His defense in his custody proceedings is all that stuff is just "performance art", and he should not be judged by it, anymore than Jack Nicholson should be judged by his role as The Joker in the movie "Batman".

That's not exactly an endorsement of his claims.

Essentially, his defense in the custody proceedings is "I was only kidding about all that".

http://www.northjersey.com/story/opi...man/100644836/

Hank

Civet · 24th April 2017, 11:00 PM

and then this happened:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chobani-y...192814661.html

Crazy Chainsaw · 28th April 2017, 05:27 AM

The Children are now safe Jones lost the battle the exwife won.
The kids might now grow up sane with at least some good DNA, not from Jones of course.

28th February 2017, 08:54 AM	#83
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,018	This may be NSFW: Meet Donald Trump's Propagandist Quote: It's afternoon, and Jones is walking through the studio, his adrenaline level high and his blood sugar low. He needs to get something to eat. Platters of BBQ - chicken, beef and sausages - are set out on a table in the conference room. "Good barbecue," says Jones. "You tasted it already?" He piles up food onto a plastic plate, and then he suddenly takes off his shirt without explanation. With his bare torso, he sits there and shovels meat into his mouth, a caricature of manliness, but also a show of power to the reporter sitting in front of him. He can do as he pleases.
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28th February 2017, 09:35 AM	#84
threadworm Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,828	He's obviously taking a leaf out of Putin's book, without the whole sitting on horses and pretending you have a black belt thing.
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7th March 2017, 08:40 PM	#85
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,657	Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking: https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/ He's really stayed loyal to Trump.
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7th March 2017, 08:58 PM	#86
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 28,390	Originally Posted by Civet Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking: https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/ He's really stayed loyal to Trump. Article by Jerome Corsi (I remember he was one of the big Birthers), but yeah. Quote: WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Wikileaks “Vault 7” drop of CIA cyber-warfare documents contains the startling revelation that the CIA, under a project identified as “Umbrage,” maintained a substantial library of Russian cyber-attack techniques “stolen” from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation. This revelation yields a “through the looking glass” possibility that the Obama administration obtained FISA permission to conduct electronic surveillance on Russians believed to be coordinating with the Trump campaign based on intelligence the CIA planted to deceive the NSA into thinking there was actual contact between Russian agents and the Trump campaign. Possibly, what the CIA was monitoring was not actual contacts between Russian agents and the Trump campaign, but CIA-created counter-espionage designed to implicate Trump and provide the legal context for the DOJ to have enough “evidence” to obtain a FISA green-light. Well, of course they would maintain a substantial library of Russian cyber-attack techniques obtained from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation. That's their job. That's not to say they used them. Just like if they found blueprints for enemy weapons systems, they would keep those too, to analyze their capabilities, develop countermeasures, and for future reference.
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8th March 2017, 11:51 AM	#87
Praktik Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,244	Corsi is an odious man.
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8th March 2017, 11:52 AM	#88
BStrong Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13,087	Originally Posted by Praktik Corsi is an odious man. To the tenth power.
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29th March 2017, 08:10 AM	#90
tinribmancer Hasbarian NWO Templar Cattle Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Intergalatic Solar System! Posts: 1,692	http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html Has Jones said anything else about this? Would be funny if he actually had ties.
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29th March 2017, 01:39 PM	#91
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	Originally Posted by Civet Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking: https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/ He's really stayed loyal to Trump. He has also been on the payroll of "Russia Today" as an "expert" on American Politics. IMHO it's a case that Alex's fanbase still likes Trump. When they eventually begin to be disillusioned then Alex will break with Trump.
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29th March 2017, 09:49 PM	#92
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,657	Originally Posted by dudalb He has also been on the payroll of "Russia Today" as an "expert" on American Politics. IMHO it's a case that Alex's fanbase still likes Trump. When they eventually begin to be disillusioned then Alex will break with Trump. I'm incredibly interested in seeing how that scenario plays out. I have no doubt that Jones would bail on Trump if he thought it served him to do so, but I do wonder how he'd spin it. Jones isn't one to admit that he's been duped or that he misread a situation.
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6th April 2017, 06:44 PM	#93
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,657	Jones is criticizing Trump now. Still making excuses for him and praising his character, but definitely criticizing him. https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-at...ussia-respond/
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6th April 2017, 09:39 PM	#94
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	Originally Posted by Civet Jones is criticizing Trump now. Still making excuses for him and praising his character, but definitely criticizing him. https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-at...ussia-respond/ It's the first crack..and a big one...in the wall. With the downgrading of Bannon, it looks as if Trump had decided that the alt right crowd has become a poltical liabllity. I think that Jones is readying his Plan B..."TRUMP HAS SOLD US DOWN THE RIVER"!
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6th April 2017, 09:45 PM	#95
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	Fact is, supporting somebody in the White House is simply unnatural and out of character for Jones;he must feel really weird doing it.
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16th April 2017, 04:22 PM	#96
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Alex Jones' lawyers argue he's a performance artist. Quote: At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.” “He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.” But in emotional testimony at the hearing, Kelly Jones, who is seeking to gain sole or joint custody of her three children with Alex Jones, portrayed the volcanic public figure as the real Alex Jones. “He’s not a stable person,” she said of the man with whom her 14-year-old son and 9- and 12-year-old daughters have lived since her 2015 divorce. “He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin’s neck. He wants J-Lo to get raped.

16th April 2017, 07:28 PM	#97
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 28,390	A ******** artist is more like it. Batman is explicitly fiction. Jones claims to be a truth-telling reporter. It wouldn't surprise me though if the man is pretty unstable IRL too, not just on his show.
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17th April 2017, 04:47 AM	#98
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,345	Originally Posted by Puppycow A ******** artist is more like it. Batman is explicitly fiction. Jones claims to be a truth-telling reporter. It wouldn't surprise me though if the man is pretty unstable IRL too, not just on his show. He isn't a performance artist, he is a BS artist only a bad BS artist, his BS. Won't even make wild roses grow. How anyone could elect a President that listens to him, is beyond comprehension.

17th April 2017, 01:02 PM	#99
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,218	Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake. Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Spreading Fake ‘Pizzagate’ Story That was the CT Mike Flynn's son bought into and sadly some mentally ill person took seriously enough to shoot a rifle into the restaurant. And of course there is the fact that Trump went on Jone's show. Quote: The radio host has endorsed several conspiracy theories, including claims that former President Barack Obama illegally wiretapped Donald Trump, that the U.S. government carried out the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and that the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School was a hoax. All of those CTs Trump repeated.

17th April 2017, 01:22 PM	#100
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 20,140	I think his wife would have more success if she brought up the things Alex Jones' followers have done, as an example of what a terrible influence he is. I mean, when he says he wants to break Alec Baldwin's neck, get in the back of the line (which stretches back to Terre Haute).
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17th April 2017, 03:28 PM	#101
Skeptical Phil New Blood Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 11	Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw He isn't a performance artist, he is a BS artist only a bad BS artist, his BS. Won't even make wild roses grow. How anyone could elect a President that listens to him, is beyond comprehension. Jones only goal is money...Thing is a lot of people buy into the BS..
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17th April 2017, 06:12 PM	#102
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,064	Originally Posted by Skeptical Phil Jones only goal is money...Thing is a lot of people buy into the BS.. Jones is like Bart Sibrel or any other conspiracy peddler in that he's figured out that you can make money lying to people who think they're too smart to be lied to.
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17th April 2017, 08:44 PM	#103
Brass Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 441	Quote: “He’s not a stable person,” she said We've been saying this for years, yo.
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18th April 2017, 12:18 AM	#104
Cosmic Yak Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 6,368	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake. Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Spreading Fake ‘Pizzagate’ Story I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true.
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18th April 2017, 06:32 AM	#105
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,064	It will be interesting to see how people with 'Infowars' stickers on their cars react to this. I'd like to think that some will realize they've been had, but it seems more likely that the majority will claim that Jones has sold out to the Illuminati or whatnot, and continue to believe the same paranoid crap because they can't have a worldview that doesn't revolve around them being among the few who are too smart to be fooled.
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18th April 2017, 12:43 PM	#106
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	Originally Posted by Foster Zygote It will be interesting to see how people with 'Infowars' stickers on their cars react to this. I'd like to think that some will realize they've been had, but it seems more likely that the majority will claim that Jones has sold out to the Illuminati or whatnot, and continue to believe the same paranoid crap because they can't have a worldview that doesn't revolve around them being among the few who are too smart to be fooled. I agree, but conspiracy kooks are a long way from being the only people who get scammed largely because they think they are too smart to be scammed. Quite a few people who consider themselves to be "Skeptics" have fallen victim to a scam because they think they are too smart to fall for a con. In the end scams depend on appealing to emotions,,although they might well make a show of "facts" in selling the con. And skeptics have emotions as much as anybody else,and are therefore vulnerable to the right buttons being pushed. I call it the "Mr.Spock" syndrome;people think they are too rational a la Mr.Spock to fall of a scam. They are setting themselves up ,of course to get conned.
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18th April 2017, 12:46 PM	#107
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,218	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true. I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers.

19th April 2017, 02:28 AM	#108
Cosmic Yak Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 6,368	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers. Sorry to sound nitpicky, but you are now speculating ahead of the facts. Unless he has already said, for the record, that he knows all the CTs he broadcasts about are fake, you cannot say that he has admitted he knows they are fake. It is entirely possible that this admission may come to light in the future, but, as of right now, we just don't know that.
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19th April 2017, 09:45 AM	#110
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,218	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak Sorry to sound nitpicky, but you are now speculating ahead of the facts. Unless he has already said, for the record, that he knows all the CTs he broadcasts about are fake, you cannot say that he has admitted he knows they are fake. It is entirely possible that this admission may come to light in the future, but, as of right now, we just don't know that. I'm not speculating anything. I've not drawn a conclusion except that the guy is scum either way.

19th April 2017, 01:33 PM	#112
Mark F Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,742	Apparently, Alex Jones is a narcissist. I know what you're thinking - who knew, right? http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...source=copyurl
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19th April 2017, 02:52 PM	#113
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	A definent cutting back of the Pro Trump stories on Infowars. A few are still there, but the nonstop praise of Trump has really been dialed back.
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20th April 2017, 01:17 AM	#114
Cosmic Yak Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 6,368	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I'm not speculating anything. I've not drawn a conclusion except that the guy is scum either way. That's not what you said. This is what you said: Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake. Jones has not admitted that, you just said he did without any evidence. When I pointed that out, you said this: Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I'll wait til the dust settles. I don't see how you can say what he is now denying without seeing his child custody papers. In other words, you are unwilling to admit that you made a mistake, and are speculating that evidence that backs up your assertion will be forthcoming in the future. That doesn't work for Paul Bethke, and neither will it work for you. You seem intent on inflating a nit-pick into a fully-fledged argument, and I really don't see the need for that. You made a mistake: everyone does, so just acknowledge it and move on.
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20th April 2017, 09:14 AM	#116
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,131	Originally Posted by dudalb A definent cutting back of the Pro Trump stories on Infowars. A few are still there, but the nonstop praise of Trump has really been dialed back. Of course, how can you peddle government conspiracies when the president is a fan and you support him? It gets a bit more difficult.
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20th April 2017, 09:18 AM	#117
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,929	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Of course, how can you peddle government conspiracies when the president is a fan and you support him? It gets a bit more difficult. From the little I heard, it didn't even break Jones' stride. He went right in on the Deep State getting to Trump.
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20th April 2017, 10:58 AM	#118
HSienzant Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Never Mind Posts: 5,071	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak I'm not sure that's accurate. He's admitted Pizzagate was BS, but, as far as I know, he still claims all the other CTs he shouts about are true. His defense in his custody proceedings is all that stuff is just "performance art", and he should not be judged by it, anymore than Jack Nicholson should be judged by his role as The Joker in the movie "Batman". That's not exactly an endorsement of his claims. Essentially, his defense in the custody proceedings is "I was only kidding about all that". http://www.northjersey.com/story/opi...man/100644836/ Hank
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24th April 2017, 11:00 PM	#119
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,657	and then this happened: https://www.yahoo.com/news/chobani-y...192814661.html
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28th April 2017, 05:27 AM	#120
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,345	The Children are now safe Jones lost the battle the exwife won. The kids might now grow up sane with at least some good DNA, not from Jones of course.